Another '69 Destroyed (on purpose)...

[SeattleCharger]

   Seeing a perfectly good charger being smashed up seems stupid. 

     Here is my solution:   The people doing the event need to fix THAT car up and jump it next year, out of the money they make for the jump.    Jump the same car over and over again every year and keep refixing the same car for the next year, and I have no problem with it. 

[Shakey]

a butt load of money!

Help me out again Ghoul!  

A week or so back you told me "fricken" means "f**ckin'" but I always thought the term to use when you didn't want or could not use the real F word was "friggen" - Ok, so I have been wrong for quite some time.

Now, what is a "butt load"?  I've always thought the term was "boat load"!

Is that an error or does it mean something else?  

[694spdRT]

for the right amount of money any one of you would crush your car into a cube in a second, and every one else wouldn't blame you because it would be a butt load of money!
There are a finite number of these cars, yes. But every one that's wrecked just frees up more parts, panels... ect.. that allows the restorable ones to be fixed. So if you really don't want to add to the destruction of these rare cars never by a part that isn't NOS or re-pop.

As far as my logic I am pretty much saying out of the two extremes I would rather see some one enjoy using there car than some one that enjoys there garage ornament. 
Guess it's the difference between the driver mentality and the owner mentality. 

I don't like seeing a car wrecked and would take a garage ornament over a pile of twisted metal anyday but, that is simply my opinion too. I also think the "crush your car into a cube" comment is not really something most of us will have to worry about being offered anytime soon. I would guess many members here could sell their car right now and make a good deal of money but, we choose not too. I started restoring my car years ago knowing when it was done I might get $10,000 for it totally done after spending 2 to 3 times that. Now that values have risen I could sell it for much more than is invested but, it never was about the money and it still isn't. Owning and enjoying a nice Charger is worth much more to me than the $$$ ever will be.

Why is there always such resentment for people that use or don't use their car in a way another would? Using the same logic I don't complain when someone intends to drive their car into the ground but, it sure is common for people to gripe about others that try and keep their car nice without knowing all the facts. For me, after a long and intense hands on restoration of my '69 I don't particularly want to do it all over again. Therefore, I enjoy driving it occassionally on nice days and taking it to shows for others to see. I have another car I consider to be a "driver" and enjoy it on a much more regular(still not daily) basis. Now, if someone chooses to drive their totally restored car everyday that is fine with me. I just think the negative term "trailer queen" gets tossed around a little too much.     

[Mike DC]

So, why can't they have a Dukefest without wrecking a Charger?  There is only a finite amount of Chargers left on the planet. Why support anyone who would destroy one just to make a buck. I'm sure those of you who love your GL's & the TV Show & the Movie could put your heads together and plan a great show w/o destroying a Charger.

I keep trying to point out that the actual diehard DOH fans have little or no say in "Dukesfest" at all at this point.

What are we gonna do, boycott the event? 
The number of real Charger-owning, fan-club participating, DIEHARD "Dukes" fans at these events is a few hundred people.  Out of 80,000-100,000 people total this year.  Every DOH diehard could sit out this deal and it wouldn't do a damn thing to the revenue numbers.

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Heck, us diehards brought most of the GLs at the show, and we still couldn't even get treated decently this year.

And even if we tried to get the owners of GL replicas to stage a "boycott" of Dukesfest, we're never gonna get everyone on board.  There are a lot more GL fans than the ones in either of the GL fan clubs (not to mention the fact that the two fan clubs don't get along as it is).  Every year there are lots of GL replicas showing up whose owners are not involved in the fan clubs at all. 

We might be able to get a few dozen GLs to sit the event out next year, but it wouldn't do much.  They'd hold another huge event & wreck another Charger & make another million bucks again anyway.

I mean, how easy do you think it would be to get all Dodge Charger owners to sit out the Mopar Nationals next year? 
Yeah.  Good luck.

 

[tan top]

  well said ( Mike DC) 

[Charger Aficionado]

Lowprofile,

  When you used the work "Finite", I really thought about it...  Probably not even a single percent of the cars on the planet are 2nd gens...  We have been around them so much, but we really really need to realize how RARE they really are.  I do think they should be a Goddamned Protected Species if anything should be... 

  I cut two up, but they were TOAST (one had bottom sitting in irrigated orchard for a year or two, and the other one had the frame cut out)...  You know...  That one with the frame cut out was MINTY and RUSTFREE...  What a SHAME that anyone would destroy one of these "Antiquities"...  Makes me sick

  Now I'm all for a RUSTY TRASH Hull being used for entertainment...  YEEEEEE HAWWWWW!  heh...

[472 R/T SE]

Great reply Jim Shine.
Why do some people worry so much about what someone else does with their car anyways?

You should see the threads on this site when someone on e-bay decides to part out a car that others feel should be saved!   

Some people honestly have nothing better to do I think.   A person can't own them all. 
Yes I know how it gets...try holding a respectable conversation about the '06 Chargers' here @ ClassicChargers.com.  I mean DodgeCharger.com.

[Lowprofile]

So, why can't they have a Dukefest without wrecking a Charger?  There is only a finite amount of Chargers left on the planet. Why support anyone who would destroy one just to make a buck. I'm sure those of you who love your GL's & the TV Show & the Movie could put your heads together and plan a great show w/o destroying a Charger.

I keep trying to point out that the actual diehard DOH fans have little or no say in "Dukesfest" at all at this point.

What are we gonna do, boycott the event? 
The number of real Charger-owning, fan-club participating, DIEHARD "Dukes" fans at these events is a few hundred people.  Out of 80,000-100,000 people total this year.  Every DOH diehard could sit out this deal and it wouldn't do a damn thing to the revenue numbers.

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Heck, us diehards brought most of the GLs at the show, and we still couldn't even get treated decently this year.

And even if we tried to get the owners of GL replicas to stage a "boycott" of Dukesfest, we're never gonna get everyone on board.  There are a lot more GL fans than the ones in either of the GL fan clubs (not to mention the fact that the two fan clubs don't get along as it is).  Every year there are lots of GL replicas showing up whose owners are not involved in the fan clubs at all. 

We might be able to get a few dozen GLs to sit the event out next year, but it wouldn't do much.  They'd hold another huge event & wreck another Charger & make another million bucks again anyway.

I mean, how easy do you think it would be to get all Dodge Charger owners to sit out the Mopar Nationals next year? 
Yeah.  Good luck.

 

Well, you just gave many good reasons not to support or attend such an event. Those of you who have worked so hard on your GL's deserve better treatment. Its a shame that you all could not get together amongst yourselves & put on your own event.

Look , we all know that there will always be cars that are wrecked, rotted, and totally abused. But the fact that some people would destroy a perfectly good car [even if its a "beater". Ask some members on this board who wish they had a Charger in almost any condition] just for the sake of doing it is truly sad, and pathetic.  

[Ghoste]

Wow.  Sorry guys, but I don't understand your rationale at all.  I guess I'm just not a destroy irreplaceable objects kind of person.

You forgot to put the word "anymore" at the end of your second sentence Ghoste!   

Touche.  Of course, that was over 25 years ago and you could buy them for a couple hundred dollars and they were all over the place because nobody wanted them.

[Mike DC]

Well, you just gave many good reasons not to support or attend such an event. Those of you who have worked so hard on your GL's deserve better treatment. Its a shame that you all could not get together amongst yourselves & put on your own event.

   

That describes "Dukes Day" in Little Rock, Arkansas this October.  It's a "Confederate GL Fan Club" thing along with some other TV/movie tie-ins.

NO jumping Chargers at these events.

Several of the smaller stars of DOH usually show up, including a couple of the stunt guys.  We sometimes even set it up so the stunt guys give rides in the cars.  Tire-screeching around in the GL & police cars at full speed is really fun. 

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Look, we all know that there will always be cars that are wrecked, rotted, and totally abused. But the fact that some people would destroy a perfectly good car [even if its a "beater". Ask some members on this board who wish they had a Charger in almost any condition] just for the sake of doing it is truly sad, and pathetic. 

Well, any time somebody wants to give me $30-50,000 to try to build a tube chassis General Lee that's jump-proof, my 240-volt welder sits ready & waiting.

  

[The Ghoul]

a butt load of money!

Help me out again Ghoul!  

A week or so back you told me "fricken" means "f**ckin'" but I always thought the term to use when you didn't want or could not use the real F word was "friggen" - Ok, so I have been wrong for quite some time.

Now, what is a "butt load"?  I've always thought the term was "boat load"!

Is that an error or does it mean something else?  

Yep same thing. 
I always knew the saying as 'ass load'
but I know of a 14 year old that just got himself his first charger and is surfing the board, so I'm trying to clean up my act for the youngsters. LOL

[Chris G.]

I don't like seeing a car wrecked and would take a garage ornament over a pile of twisted metal anyday but, that is simply my opinion too. I also think the "crush your car into a cube" comment is not really something most of us will have to worry about being offered anytime soon. I would guess many members here could sell their car right now and make a good deal of money but, we choose not too. I started restoring my car years ago knowing when it was done I might get $10,000 for it totally done after spending 2 to 3 times that. Now that values have risen I could sell it for much more than is invested but, it never was about the money and it still isn't. Owning and enjoying a nice Charger is worth much more to me than the $$$ ever will be.

Why there is always such resentment for people that use or don't use their car in a way another would. Using the same logic I don't complain when someone intends to drive their cars into the ground but, it sure is common for people to gripe about others that try and keep their cars nice without knowing all the facts. For me, after a long and intense hands on restoration of my '69 I don't particularly want to do it all over again. Therefore, I enjoy driving it occassionally on nice days and taking to shows for others to see. I have another car I consider to be a "driver" and enjoy it on a much more regular(still not daily) basis. Now, if someone chooses to drive their totally restored car everyday that is fine with me. I just think the negative term "trailer queen" gets tossed around a little too much.     

  Great Post!!!

Why we let some yahoo 20yr old who is more into his Subaru than any true classic car tell us how cars should be used, is beyond me?

Nevermind...

[Shakey]

Wow.  Sorry guys, but I don't understand your rationale at all.  I guess I'm just not a destroy irreplaceable objects kind of person.

You forgot to put the word "anymore" at the end of your second sentence Ghoste!   

Touche.  Of course, that was over 25 years ago and you could buy them for a couple hundred dollars and they were all over the place because nobody wanted them.

You knew I was just bustin' your balls for fun!   

[Ghoste]

Oh I know, but I deserved it too.  I still stand by both statements.

[Shakey]

a butt load of money!

Help me out again Ghoul!  

A week or so back you told me "fricken" means "f**ckin'" but I always thought the term to use when you didn't want or could not use the real F word was "friggen" - Ok, so I have been wrong for quite some time.

Now, what is a "butt load"?  I've always thought the term was "boat load"!

Is that an error or does it mean something else?  

Yep same thing. 
I always knew the saying as 'ass load'
but I know of a 14 year old that just got himself his first charger and is surfing the board, so I'm trying to clean up my act for the youngsters. LOL

I have heard the term shit-load, never ass-load.  Must be a MI thing.  

Thanks for clearing this all up for me.  

[The Ghoul]

I don't like seeing a car wrecked and would take a garage ornament over a pile of twisted metal anyday but, that is simply my opinion too. I also think the "crush your car into a cube" comment is not really something most of us will have to worry about being offered anytime soon. I would guess many members here could sell their car right now and make a good deal of money but, we choose not too. I started restoring my car years ago knowing when it was done I might get $10,000 for it totally done after spending 2 to 3 times that. Now that values have risen I could sell it for much more than is invested but, it never was about the money and it still isn't. Owning and enjoying a nice Charger is worth much more to me than the $$$ ever will be.

Why there is always such resentment for people that use or don't use their car in a way another would. Using the same logic I don't complain when someone intends to drive their cars into the ground but, it sure is common for people to gripe about others that try and keep their cars nice without knowing all the facts. For me, after a long and intense hands on restoration of my '69 I don't particularly want to do it all over again. Therefore, I enjoy driving it occassionally on nice days and taking to shows for others to see. I have another car I consider to be a "driver" and enjoy it on a much more regular(still not daily) basis. Now, if someone chooses to drive their totally restored car everyday that is fine with me. I just think the negative term "trailer queen" gets tossed around a little too much.     

  Great Post!!!

Why we let some yahoo 20yr old who is more into his Subaru than any true classic car tell us how cars should be used, is beyond me?

Nevermind...

Your just mad because your old! 
I don't mind getting shit for working on my subaru but NEVER think I spend more time or money on that echon-o box than I do on my charger. Every thing that I put big money into on my subaru is usually a learning experience for the charger. Powder coating case in point. 

[253862656971]

I've come to the point where it's sickened me so much I don't care anymore.  Jump them all for all I care there still will be one left, MINE!