Another '69 Destroyed (on purpose)...

[Charger Aficionado]

  Dukefest does it again...  No matter how rusty, there is no excuse...  But if I were there, my kid would've gone bonkers...  I hope that thing was Useless...

[PocketThunder]

Is/was there a stuntdriver in there or was in on cables?  I cant tell from here, my screen at work sucks!

[JimShine]

Corey Eubanks jumped it. There is a post on the confederate board saying he hurt his back in the jump and has been in some pain.

[Shakey]

You can see video of it here!

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,14500.0.html

Sure sounds like crowd loved it.

[PocketThunder]

got it,  i just found the other thread.

[Mike DC]

 
Can you believe the balled-up remains of that car sold for $16,500 ?!?
 
 

[472 R/T SE]

 
Can you believe the balled-up remains of that car sold for $16,500 ?!?
 
 

Travis? 

[694spdRT]

Corey Eubanks jumped it. There is a post on the confederate board saying he hurt his back in the jump and has been in some pain.

It makes my back hurt just watching that clip. 

[TruckDriver]

I'm sorry, but I'm going to say this... I wish Ben Jones would just die. Pretty soon there will be no decent '69 parts cars left, and they will start buying good nice restored cars to jump and destroy. And after there are no more '69 Chargers left to destroy, they will start on the other years of Chargers. All he is doing is showing the younger generation of people and kids how to destroy a cool car and make money, and it will never end. This is just plain sickening. 

[Dale The Bold]

I'm sorry, but I'm going to say this... I wish Ben Jones would just die. Pretty soon there will be no decent '69 parts cars left, and they will start buying good nice restored cars to jump and destroy. And after there are no more '69 Chargers left to destroy, they will start on the other years of Chargers. All he is doing is showing the younger generation of people and kids how to destroy a cool car and make money, and it will never end. This is just plain sickening. 

Wow.  You do realize this would still happen whether or not Ben Jones was alive, right?  Who knows the fate of this car, it may get restored, or it may be parted out.  There's always so much speculation about these things.  But someone thought it was worth 16 thousand dollars.

[Mike DC]

 
We've hashed out the whole subject before.

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For what it's worth, the entire "Dukesfest" event & stunt show left a lot of pissed-off car owners who won't be coming back without some serious changes next year.  The stunt crew wasn't entirely happy with the circumstances of the whole thing either, not to mention Corey hurting his back on the huge jump.

If they wanna do this again next year, they're gonna have to pay a lot more money for the stunts and do a lot more special accomodations/favors for the GL owners.

 

[dodge freak]

As Rosco P. Coltrane would say -that was a horrendous crash. Why don't they use a 2006 charger next year , that I would like to see, wonder how many pieces it would be in afterwards

[Drache]

I'm sorry, but I'm going to say this... I wish Ben Jones would just die. Pretty soon there will be no decent '69 parts cars left, and they will start buying good nice restored cars to jump and destroy. And after there are no more '69 Chargers left to destroy, they will start on the other years of Chargers. All he is doing is showing the younger generation of people and kids how to destroy a cool car and make money, and it will never end. This is just plain sickening. 

Hasn't that started happening all ready? I remember an ebay ad for a restored '69 Charger that was a real R/T and painted as a GL. The auction though was for the car AFTER it was jumped. Anyone else remember this auction? You would bid on the car, and then after it was jumped, you'd get the remains.

[Mike DC]

   

Hasn't that started happening all ready? I remember an ebay ad for a restored '69 Charger that was a real R/T and painted as a GL. The auction though was for the car AFTER it was jumped. Anyone else remember this auction? You would bid on the car, and then after it was jumped, you'd get the remains.

The stunt crew actually didn't supply the Charger that time.  That was an exception. 

The shop owner funding that jump specifically wanted his own (R/T 4spd) GL jumped, and he wasn't willing to substitute another Charger in its place.  The car had some credentials as an old Warner Bros publicity car, and the shop owner felt that made it more of a "real" General Lee that way.  (Friggin' Moron!)


Believe me, the stunt guys would much rather have substitued another Charger of their own that time.  Less guilt.  They also could have made a little bit more money on the operation by supplying their own Charger while they were at it.  But the shop owner is a millionaire and nobody can tell him what to do with his own Charger.  He owned the car, he wanted it jumped, and he was gonna get it jumped one way or another.

 

[tan top]

jumping another 69 charger
it did sound good though when Cory put his foot in it coming out of turn four .

[Shakey]

I'm sorry, but I'm going to say this... I wish Ben Jones would just die.

I am sure if you really wanted him dead, you could track him down and kill him! 

[Wakko]

The car was a real R/T and not in bad shape at all. 

[694spdRT]

Didn't the real R/T jumped before nose dive.

Is the one in the pic the Dukefest car? That was not another R/T was it?

[Wakko]

Yes, the Dukesfest '06 car was a real RT and landed flat like a pancake, injuring the driver.   The Hardcore Racing General (R/T TrakPak car) landed nose first (like the stunt guys like it) and is in MUCH worse "after" shape than the DF car.  LAST year's DF car was in horrible shape and was cremated during the jump (but reportedly rebuilt since then) and the MTV Jump car was rebuilt and is used as a display piece.

[694spdRT]

They rebuilt that! Wow.

[Wakko]

That's what one of the stunt guys told me.  They bought it for 12k or some ridiculous figure and are piecing it toghether.  I could understand if it were a real GL or something, but just some jumped car?  JUNK!!!

[dodge freak]

Hey they can always sell it on e-bay- some sucker would buy it.

[Mike DC]

    
They sure got their money out of the car's rollcage last year. 

The caged area of the cab was literally the only part of the car between the front & rear bumpers that was still standing when the smoke cleared.

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I don't know why the hell anybody would wanna rebuild that thing, but I guess it's their money. 

I love "real General Lees" as much as anybody, but even I don't want one bad enough to straighten out a crushed wreck like that.  I'd have a hard time justifying putting that much resto work into a real TV-series car, much less one that Ben Jones had built in the 1990s and then they jumped last summer. 

 

[Judhudson]

I look at it this way - if they have the money and are willing to put it back together (and I mean rebuild most or the whole car), it just means there is one extra dodge charger in the world for someone to get someday.

[Ghoste]

I don't care what anyone says, I still think it's stupid.  Even if a million people pay a dollar to watch, it still isn't right.  We all get an opinion and it's a free country, but...

[dodge freak]

We live in a violent world, people like to see others get killed and cars busted up. Look at boxing and even football. Thats what we think is entertainment.

[Mike DC]

 
I'm at least partly drawn to the technical work that goes into making a Charger fly like that. 

It sounds easy until you try it. 

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I mean, Evel Kinevel had huge shallow ramps to bring him up gradually and completely control his launch. 

But not the General Lee.  The GL's jump ramp is basically no taller/longer than the car and yet the jumps are huge.  The car hits the ramp hard enough to bend the unibody, and the car's "bounce" upwards off the ramp is so big/violent that it has to be taken into consideration when they're planning out the jump.

And then there's the distance, direction, and landing angle:

It's the same principle with accurate gun shots . . . the farther the bullet flies, the more every little imperfection in your aim will put it off course.  Trying to keep the car's attitude & flight under control when the car flies 200 feet is not easy.

 

[Lowprofile]

I Just don't get it.

I know that those of you on this board who own real GL's or have built clones truly love your cars & have put many hours of hard work and tons of cash into them. Why does anyone on this board support, in any way, people or companies who do these things to something that we supposedly hold dearly? Why go to "Dukefest" or any other celebration of the death of something we love. That's just one more Charger that goes to the crusher........ or that someone pays a STUPID amount of money for just to own a GL jump car. All that does is encourage these morons to hold another festival next year to destroy another beautiful car. 

"There are two kinds of People in the World.........Those who leave a Mark, and Those who leave a Stain"

[8WHEELER]

I Just don't get it.

I know that those of you on this board who own real GL's or have built clones truly love your cars & have put many hours of hard work and tons of cash into them. Why does anyone on this board support, in any way, people or companies who do these things to something that we supposedly hold dearly? Why go to "Dukefest" or any other celebration of the death of something we love. That's just one more Charger that goes to the crusher........ or that someone pays a STUPID amount of money for just to own a GL jump car. All that does is encourage these morons to hold another festival next year to destroy another beautiful car. 

  I will never understand jumping one of our loved chargers, then hearing the screeming happy people
while watching the video, I wish I had not clicked on the video, never again.

OK, These guys put back together a 69 Charger R/T from these jumps, can you imagine how much of the car is actually
left of the car that was actually jumped after the restoration? There is no usable parts left on the car, so what could
possibly be the interest in seeing a car ''they say'' was the car that was jumped? everything on the car would be new
from other donor cars to fix it   


Dan

[tan top]

I Just don't get it.

I know that those of you on this board who own real GL's or have built clones truly love your cars & have put many hours of hard work and tons of cash into them. Why does anyone on this board support, in any way, people or companies who do these things to something that we supposedly hold dearly? Why go to "Dukefest" or any other celebration of the death of something we love. That's just one more Charger that goes to the crusher........ or that someone pays a STUPID amount of money for just to own a GL jump car. All that does is encourage these morons to hold another festival next year to destroy another beautiful car. 

  I will never understand jumping one of our loved chargers, then hearing the screeming happy people
while watching the video, I wish I had not clicked on the video, never again.

OK, These guys put back together a 69 Charger R/T from these jumps, can you imagine how much of the car is actually
left of the car that was actually jumped after the restoration? There is no usable parts left on the car, so what could
possibly be the interest in seeing a car ''they say'' was the car that was jumped? everything on the car would be new
from other donor cars to fix it   


Dan

                i agree well said guys ,

[Ghoste]

The "milllionaire shop owner" (I believe we had some better names for him when the event was current), who staged the jump with the remains going to e-bay, would not likely have concieved the stunt if it weren't for events like this.  He wasn't a Dodge fan and I think most of us felt his Chevy bias had more than a little to do with his determination to destroy the car.  If he didn't see the recent movie or read about people lining up at Dukesfests and buyers scrambling to own the hulks, would he have destroyed that car by his own idea?  Maybe, but maybe not.

[Mike DC]

 
I don't know what to think of that one.  I was there, I even met the guy responsible, and I still don't get it.
It should be noted that the whole thing was not an attempt to make money.  At least not directly. 

--  The entire jump/event was held for FREE. 
No admission charge at all.  There was even free food for the crowd.  It was all a publicity stunt for his shop. 

--  I think the GL jump was basically expected to be a money-loser from the start. 
Between the Ebay price of the car last year ($35K) and the price of the jump itself, they probably had almost $50,000 tied up in that car by the time it jumped.  Nobody was ever gonna bid that high for a wrecked GL and they must've known it.  (Heck, the NON-wrecked real prop cars still don't always sell for that much.)

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I dunno.  It was a weird scene that day. 
Stupid idea to wreck the car from the start, and I don't know what he thought he was gonna get out of it.

 

[JimShine]

I know that those of you on this board who own real GL's or have built clones truly love your cars & have put many hours of hard work and tons of cash into them. Why does anyone on this board support, in any way, people or companies who do these things to something that we supposedly hold dearly?

I am a clone owner. I do not support this stuff. But what am I supposed to do? Blow a gasket everytime it happens? It isn't worth the energy. I don't have the means to save every Charger. I had to make a decision to either get an ulcer everytime this type of thing happens, or let it roll off my back. I chose to let it go. Maybe it is selfish, but I can't let myself get bent everytime an appliance is wasted. I love them just as much as anyone here, but I can't let it get to me.

[Neal_J]

I could watch that video all day long.  Love it!

The jumps were the best part of the original series.

Sorry guys,

Neal J.

[Mike DC]

Why does anyone on this board support, in any way, people or companies who do these things to something that we supposedly hold dearly? Why go to "Dukefest" or any other celebration of the death of something we love.

There's a Charger being wrecked for a grand total of 30 seconds each year, out of an entire weekend full of other stuff.
For GL owners, these "Dukesfest" events are like the Mopar Nationals or something.

I mean, seriously . . . a HUNDRED General Lees and several dozen squad cars in one place?  Can you blame us for wanting to go? 
We get to hang out with our friends (and their cars) at a huge show once a year.  And we get to meet the stunt crew & stars of the show.  And we take hundreds of excited grade school kids for tire-burning rides in our Chargers over the course of the weekend. 

For all the bad press "Dukesfest" has gotten between bad rules & wrecked Chargers, there's still a lot more to it than that.  There's been a lot to get angry about, but there's also a lot to get excited about (if and when the show is being organized right).

 

[Charger Aficionado]

  I would've LOVED to take my kid there...

[472 R/T SE]

Great reply Jim Shine.
Why do some people worry so much about what someone else does with their car anyways?

[The Ghoul]

They made a 200+ paved to paved jump in an original bucket!!!!
That's fricking insane!!

Ma well, Id rather see some one jump and destroy a car and enjoy it for 15 seconds, than to keep it penned up in a garage only to be brought out occasionally. Thats just me I guess.

[Ghoste]

You'd rather see someone jump and destroy a car over saving it in a garage but you chose auto restoration for a hobby??

[Neal_J]

A car that is jumped/destroyed is, albeit brieflly, enjoyed by a large bunch of people.  Wereas the car penned up in the garage is enjoyed by one person. 

Jumps are cool !!

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE HAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWW

Neal

[The Ghoul]

You'd rather see someone jump and destroy a car over saving it in a garage but you chose auto restoration for a hobby??

Nope I chose cars as a hobby.
My charger restoration is more of a ground up customization rather than a factory spec restoration.
And yes I would rather see some one enjoy a minute of use out of a car over a life time of polishing and moving it in and out of the garage.

[Ghoste]

Wow.  Sorry guys, but I don't understand your rationale at all.  I guess I'm just not a destroy irreplaceable objects kind of person.

[Andrew]

Thats really, really depressing.

[Shakey]

Wow.  Sorry guys, but I don't understand your rationale at all.  I guess I'm just not a destroy irreplaceable objects kind of person.

You forgot to put the word "anymore" at the end of your second sentence Ghoste!   

[Shakey]

Great reply Jim Shine.
Why do some people worry so much about what someone else does with their car anyways?

You should see the threads on this site when someone on e-bay decides to part out a car that others feel should be saved!   

[Afflyer]

I've got Corey's autograph, along with James Best (Roscoe), on the upper grill support of my Charger from the first ever Duke's Day Fest in Little Rock.

That was in the Spring of '04 and my first ever car show.  Corey asked me if he could take my Charger out for a "spin" in front of the local news cameras, but I opted out and just got his signature instead.

Corey did manage to get behind the wheel of another Charger, and in the process of showing off in front of the cameras- took out the rear end of that Charger!!!!  No worries from him though, he paid cash up front for a brand new rear and had it installed by the end of the day.

Corey is a great guy- I hope he recovers quickly.

Bradley

[Lowprofile]

I know that those of you on this board who own real GL's or have built clones truly love your cars & have put many hours of hard work and tons of cash into them. Why does anyone on this board support, in any way, people or companies who do these things to something that we supposedly hold dearly?

I am a clone owner. I do not support this stuff. But what am I supposed to do? Blow a gasket everytime it happens? It isn't worth the energy. I don't have the means to save every Charger. I had to make a decision to either get an ulcer everytime this type of thing happens, or let it roll off my back. I chose to let it go. Maybe it is selfish, but I can't let myself get bent everytime an appliance is wasted. I love them just as much as anyone here, but I can't let it get to me.

I agree with you. All I am saying is that as a group who loves these cars, we should not support these people, companies, or their events. That would not be so hard for any of us to do.

Why does anyone on this board support, in any way, people or companies who do these things to something that we supposedly hold dearly? Why go to "Dukefest" or any other celebration of the death of something we love.

There's a Charger being wrecked for a grand total of 30 seconds each year, out of an entire weekend full of other stuff.
For GL owners, these "Dukesfest" events are like the Mopar Nationals or something.

I mean, seriously . . . a HUNDRED General Lees and several dozen squad cars in one place?  Can you blame us for wanting to go? 
We get to hang out with our friends (and their cars) at a huge show once a year.  And we get to meet the stunt crew & stars of the show.  And we take hundreds of excited grade school kids for tire-burning rides in our Chargers over the course of the weekend. 

For all the bad press "Dukesfest" has gotten between bad rules & wrecked Chargers, there's still a lot more to it than that.  There's been a lot to get angry about, but there's also a lot to get excited about (if and when the show is being organized right).

 

So, why can't they have a Dukefest without wrecking a Charger?  There is only a finite amount of Chargers left on the planet. Why support anyone who would destroy one just to make a buck. I'm sure those of you who love your GL's & the TV Show & the Movie could put your heads together and plan a great show w/o destroying a Charger.

[The Ghoul]

for the right amount of money any one of you would crush your car into a cube in a second, and every one else wouldn't blame you because it would be a butt load of money!
There are a finite number of these cars, yes. But every one that's wrecked just frees up more parts, panels... ect.. that allows the restorable ones to be fixed. So if you really don't want to add to the destruction of these rare cars never by a part that isn't NOS or re-pop.

As far as my logic I am pretty much saying out of the two extremes I would rather see some one enjoy using there car than some one that enjoys there garage ornament. 
Guess it's the difference between the driver mentality and the owner mentality. 

[Neal_J]

Maybe next year they could shoot dynamite arrows at a remote-controlled, driverless car in mid air.  Thant would be SO cool!

They're junker cars, not priceless works of art.

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEE HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWW

Neal

[Shakey]

So, why can't they have a Dukefest without wrecking a Charger? 

That would be like going to a Who concert in the late '60's and not seeing them trash the stage including their instruments.      

[SeattleCharger]

   Seeing a perfectly good charger being smashed up seems stupid. 

     Here is my solution:   The people doing the event need to fix THAT car up and jump it next year, out of the money they make for the jump.    Jump the same car over and over again every year and keep refixing the same car for the next year, and I have no problem with it. 

[Shakey]

a butt load of money!

Help me out again Ghoul!  

A week or so back you told me "fricken" means "f**ckin'" but I always thought the term to use when you didn't want or could not use the real F word was "friggen" - Ok, so I have been wrong for quite some time.

Now, what is a "butt load"?  I've always thought the term was "boat load"!

Is that an error or does it mean something else?  

[694spdRT]

for the right amount of money any one of you would crush your car into a cube in a second, and every one else wouldn't blame you because it would be a butt load of money!
There are a finite number of these cars, yes. But every one that's wrecked just frees up more parts, panels... ect.. that allows the restorable ones to be fixed. So if you really don't want to add to the destruction of these rare cars never by a part that isn't NOS or re-pop.

As far as my logic I am pretty much saying out of the two extremes I would rather see some one enjoy using there car than some one that enjoys there garage ornament. 
Guess it's the difference between the driver mentality and the owner mentality. 

I don't like seeing a car wrecked and would take a garage ornament over a pile of twisted metal anyday but, that is simply my opinion too. I also think the "crush your car into a cube" comment is not really something most of us will have to worry about being offered anytime soon. I would guess many members here could sell their car right now and make a good deal of money but, we choose not too. I started restoring my car years ago knowing when it was done I might get $10,000 for it totally done after spending 2 to 3 times that. Now that values have risen I could sell it for much more than is invested but, it never was about the money and it still isn't. Owning and enjoying a nice Charger is worth much more to me than the $$$ ever will be.

Why is there always such resentment for people that use or don't use their car in a way another would? Using the same logic I don't complain when someone intends to drive their car into the ground but, it sure is common for people to gripe about others that try and keep their car nice without knowing all the facts. For me, after a long and intense hands on restoration of my '69 I don't particularly want to do it all over again. Therefore, I enjoy driving it occassionally on nice days and taking it to shows for others to see. I have another car I consider to be a "driver" and enjoy it on a much more regular(still not daily) basis. Now, if someone chooses to drive their totally restored car everyday that is fine with me. I just think the negative term "trailer queen" gets tossed around a little too much.     

[Mike DC]

So, why can't they have a Dukefest without wrecking a Charger?  There is only a finite amount of Chargers left on the planet. Why support anyone who would destroy one just to make a buck. I'm sure those of you who love your GL's & the TV Show & the Movie could put your heads together and plan a great show w/o destroying a Charger.

I keep trying to point out that the actual diehard DOH fans have little or no say in "Dukesfest" at all at this point.

What are we gonna do, boycott the event? 
The number of real Charger-owning, fan-club participating, DIEHARD "Dukes" fans at these events is a few hundred people.  Out of 80,000-100,000 people total this year.  Every DOH diehard could sit out this deal and it wouldn't do a damn thing to the revenue numbers.

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Heck, us diehards brought most of the GLs at the show, and we still couldn't even get treated decently this year.

And even if we tried to get the owners of GL replicas to stage a "boycott" of Dukesfest, we're never gonna get everyone on board.  There are a lot more GL fans than the ones in either of the GL fan clubs (not to mention the fact that the two fan clubs don't get along as it is).  Every year there are lots of GL replicas showing up whose owners are not involved in the fan clubs at all. 

We might be able to get a few dozen GLs to sit the event out next year, but it wouldn't do much.  They'd hold another huge event & wreck another Charger & make another million bucks again anyway.

I mean, how easy do you think it would be to get all Dodge Charger owners to sit out the Mopar Nationals next year? 
Yeah.  Good luck.

 

[tan top]

  well said ( Mike DC) 

[Charger Aficionado]

Lowprofile,

  When you used the work "Finite", I really thought about it...  Probably not even a single percent of the cars on the planet are 2nd gens...  We have been around them so much, but we really really need to realize how RARE they really are.  I do think they should be a Goddamned Protected Species if anything should be... 

  I cut two up, but they were TOAST (one had bottom sitting in irrigated orchard for a year or two, and the other one had the frame cut out)...  You know...  That one with the frame cut out was MINTY and RUSTFREE...  What a SHAME that anyone would destroy one of these "Antiquities"...  Makes me sick

  Now I'm all for a RUSTY TRASH Hull being used for entertainment...  YEEEEEE HAWWWWW!  heh...

[472 R/T SE]

Great reply Jim Shine.
Why do some people worry so much about what someone else does with their car anyways?

You should see the threads on this site when someone on e-bay decides to part out a car that others feel should be saved!   

Some people honestly have nothing better to do I think.   A person can't own them all. 
Yes I know how it gets...try holding a respectable conversation about the '06 Chargers' here @ ClassicChargers.com.  I mean DodgeCharger.com.

[Lowprofile]

So, why can't they have a Dukefest without wrecking a Charger?  There is only a finite amount of Chargers left on the planet. Why support anyone who would destroy one just to make a buck. I'm sure those of you who love your GL's & the TV Show & the Movie could put your heads together and plan a great show w/o destroying a Charger.

I keep trying to point out that the actual diehard DOH fans have little or no say in "Dukesfest" at all at this point.

What are we gonna do, boycott the event? 
The number of real Charger-owning, fan-club participating, DIEHARD "Dukes" fans at these events is a few hundred people.  Out of 80,000-100,000 people total this year.  Every DOH diehard could sit out this deal and it wouldn't do a damn thing to the revenue numbers.

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Heck, us diehards brought most of the GLs at the show, and we still couldn't even get treated decently this year.

And even if we tried to get the owners of GL replicas to stage a "boycott" of Dukesfest, we're never gonna get everyone on board.  There are a lot more GL fans than the ones in either of the GL fan clubs (not to mention the fact that the two fan clubs don't get along as it is).  Every year there are lots of GL replicas showing up whose owners are not involved in the fan clubs at all. 

We might be able to get a few dozen GLs to sit the event out next year, but it wouldn't do much.  They'd hold another huge event & wreck another Charger & make another million bucks again anyway.

I mean, how easy do you think it would be to get all Dodge Charger owners to sit out the Mopar Nationals next year? 
Yeah.  Good luck.

 

Well, you just gave many good reasons not to support or attend such an event. Those of you who have worked so hard on your GL's deserve better treatment. Its a shame that you all could not get together amongst yourselves & put on your own event.

Look , we all know that there will always be cars that are wrecked, rotted, and totally abused. But the fact that some people would destroy a perfectly good car [even if its a "beater". Ask some members on this board who wish they had a Charger in almost any condition] just for the sake of doing it is truly sad, and pathetic.  

[Ghoste]

Wow.  Sorry guys, but I don't understand your rationale at all.  I guess I'm just not a destroy irreplaceable objects kind of person.

You forgot to put the word "anymore" at the end of your second sentence Ghoste!   

Touche.  Of course, that was over 25 years ago and you could buy them for a couple hundred dollars and they were all over the place because nobody wanted them.

[Mike DC]

Well, you just gave many good reasons not to support or attend such an event. Those of you who have worked so hard on your GL's deserve better treatment. Its a shame that you all could not get together amongst yourselves & put on your own event.

   

That describes "Dukes Day" in Little Rock, Arkansas this October.  It's a "Confederate GL Fan Club" thing along with some other TV/movie tie-ins.

NO jumping Chargers at these events.

Several of the smaller stars of DOH usually show up, including a couple of the stunt guys.  We sometimes even set it up so the stunt guys give rides in the cars.  Tire-screeching around in the GL & police cars at full speed is really fun. 

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Look, we all know that there will always be cars that are wrecked, rotted, and totally abused. But the fact that some people would destroy a perfectly good car [even if its a "beater". Ask some members on this board who wish they had a Charger in almost any condition] just for the sake of doing it is truly sad, and pathetic. 

Well, any time somebody wants to give me $30-50,000 to try to build a tube chassis General Lee that's jump-proof, my 240-volt welder sits ready & waiting.

  

[The Ghoul]

a butt load of money!

Help me out again Ghoul!  

A week or so back you told me "fricken" means "f**ckin'" but I always thought the term to use when you didn't want or could not use the real F word was "friggen" - Ok, so I have been wrong for quite some time.

Now, what is a "butt load"?  I've always thought the term was "boat load"!

Is that an error or does it mean something else?  

Yep same thing. 
I always knew the saying as 'ass load'
but I know of a 14 year old that just got himself his first charger and is surfing the board, so I'm trying to clean up my act for the youngsters. LOL

[Chris G.]

I don't like seeing a car wrecked and would take a garage ornament over a pile of twisted metal anyday but, that is simply my opinion too. I also think the "crush your car into a cube" comment is not really something most of us will have to worry about being offered anytime soon. I would guess many members here could sell their car right now and make a good deal of money but, we choose not too. I started restoring my car years ago knowing when it was done I might get $10,000 for it totally done after spending 2 to 3 times that. Now that values have risen I could sell it for much more than is invested but, it never was about the money and it still isn't. Owning and enjoying a nice Charger is worth much more to me than the $$$ ever will be.

Why there is always such resentment for people that use or don't use their car in a way another would. Using the same logic I don't complain when someone intends to drive their cars into the ground but, it sure is common for people to gripe about others that try and keep their cars nice without knowing all the facts. For me, after a long and intense hands on restoration of my '69 I don't particularly want to do it all over again. Therefore, I enjoy driving it occassionally on nice days and taking to shows for others to see. I have another car I consider to be a "driver" and enjoy it on a much more regular(still not daily) basis. Now, if someone chooses to drive their totally restored car everyday that is fine with me. I just think the negative term "trailer queen" gets tossed around a little too much.     

  Great Post!!!

Why we let some yahoo 20yr old who is more into his Subaru than any true classic car tell us how cars should be used, is beyond me?

Nevermind...

[Shakey]

Wow.  Sorry guys, but I don't understand your rationale at all.  I guess I'm just not a destroy irreplaceable objects kind of person.

You forgot to put the word "anymore" at the end of your second sentence Ghoste!   

Touche.  Of course, that was over 25 years ago and you could buy them for a couple hundred dollars and they were all over the place because nobody wanted them.

You knew I was just bustin' your balls for fun!   

[Ghoste]

Oh I know, but I deserved it too.  I still stand by both statements.

[Shakey]

a butt load of money!

Help me out again Ghoul!  

A week or so back you told me "fricken" means "f**ckin'" but I always thought the term to use when you didn't want or could not use the real F word was "friggen" - Ok, so I have been wrong for quite some time.

Now, what is a "butt load"?  I've always thought the term was "boat load"!

Is that an error or does it mean something else?  

Yep same thing. 
I always knew the saying as 'ass load'
but I know of a 14 year old that just got himself his first charger and is surfing the board, so I'm trying to clean up my act for the youngsters. LOL

I have heard the term shit-load, never ass-load.  Must be a MI thing.  

Thanks for clearing this all up for me.  

[The Ghoul]

I don't like seeing a car wrecked and would take a garage ornament over a pile of twisted metal anyday but, that is simply my opinion too. I also think the "crush your car into a cube" comment is not really something most of us will have to worry about being offered anytime soon. I would guess many members here could sell their car right now and make a good deal of money but, we choose not too. I started restoring my car years ago knowing when it was done I might get $10,000 for it totally done after spending 2 to 3 times that. Now that values have risen I could sell it for much more than is invested but, it never was about the money and it still isn't. Owning and enjoying a nice Charger is worth much more to me than the $$$ ever will be.

Why there is always such resentment for people that use or don't use their car in a way another would. Using the same logic I don't complain when someone intends to drive their cars into the ground but, it sure is common for people to gripe about others that try and keep their cars nice without knowing all the facts. For me, after a long and intense hands on restoration of my '69 I don't particularly want to do it all over again. Therefore, I enjoy driving it occassionally on nice days and taking to shows for others to see. I have another car I consider to be a "driver" and enjoy it on a much more regular(still not daily) basis. Now, if someone chooses to drive their totally restored car everyday that is fine with me. I just think the negative term "trailer queen" gets tossed around a little too much.     

  Great Post!!!

Why we let some yahoo 20yr old who is more into his Subaru than any true classic car tell us how cars should be used, is beyond me?

Nevermind...

Your just mad because your old! 
I don't mind getting shit for working on my subaru but NEVER think I spend more time or money on that echon-o box than I do on my charger. Every thing that I put big money into on my subaru is usually a learning experience for the charger. Powder coating case in point. 

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I've come to the point where it's sickened me so much I don't care anymore.  Jump them all for all I care there still will be one left, MINE!