70 Charger on craig's list. XS29U0G1660760000

[b5blue]

Looks like a lot of car for the money? https://tampa.craigslist.org/hdo/ctd/d/auburn-1970-dodge-charger-t/7825306520.html 

[DD]

It is a scam. Photos stolen from another sale and photoshopped into that bogus listing. You can see photoshop errors in window area. Plus the car is actually 166074.

[b5blue]

Ah so...

[Kern Dog]

Really? People are stupid enough to think this is a legitimate ad?

[b5blue]

Almost as shockingly epic as putting a battery where it belongs? 

[Kern Dog]

What have you done to your car besides look at it?

[b5blue]

Everything. (Except pretend racer boy stuff like you.) 

[Kern Dog]

I'll repeat with a small change.
What do you DO to your car besides look at it?
Boy racer? I am fine with criticism if it is a valid point but yours just sucks and reeks of an old man that yells get off my lawn to everyone younger than him that dares to own and enjoy their classic car.
I'm out working on stuff nearly every day. I do as much on these cars as I can, now including alignments.
You may be satisfied with a completely stock car but SOME people try different things in the name of performance as well as style. You may have jacked up the rear of your car, put mud flaps and side pipes on it too. The older guys back then surely commented on how stupid you were for doing all that stuff to a perfectly good car. If I were your age then, I probably would have done the same thing as you.
Trunk mounted batteries have been a weight transfer trick from 60+ years ago. The advent of lightweight Lithium batteries have all but negated any advantage of doing that.
Some edgy people have gone way further than I ever will with their cars, converting to EFI or late model engines in their classics. I can almost see you clutching your pearl necklace in shock and disgust!
The original topic of this thread was a bullshit ad that YOU thought was real enough to post up along with the comment that it looked like a lot of car for the money.
That shows how out of touch that you are.

[b5blue]

  I don't defend myself to you. You insult those who are older or may have heath concerns yet still love Chargers. Attacking those who pay for skills they don't have? I point out this Charger ad and you drop in to insult, missing the entire point OF THE TOPIC.
  You don't know me. 

[Kern Dog]

Health concerns.
If you are unable to do your own work then stop criticizing others that still can and do. I could go back several months to find numerous examples of your insults.
A man that isn't capable of defending himself shouldn't talk trash to someone that could do him harm. I wouldn't insult and be rude to a bigger, stronger and meaner dude.
By that same logic, one that sits on the couch shouldn't insult the man that is actually out of the house and doing things.
If you talk the talk, you need to walk the walk. Otherwise, you're like the annoying dog that barks at everything but is chained to the tree.

[b5blue]

  Yap yap yap now you copy me. Why are you so bitter? Why are you really here? I've no heath issues but friends who do. You seem to like throwing shade and bragging about what you do. Recall Covid when you needed to inject hate in my topic of the death count? This site is a brotherhood of Charger minded folks but you insult others constantly.

[Kern Dog]

The site isn't as active as it used to be, I try to stoke the fires to get some conversation going.
You also do that.
I try to have topics about a balance of things including tech stuff. I don't know another way of presenting updates on current projects without looking a bit self serving.
Yeah, this is a CAR forum where the main topic should be the cars, specifically Chargers.
Covid really shined a light on beliefs and behaviors of people. Some were the type that trusts the government and follow orders, others didn't trust what the media was pushing and resisted. THAT divided people like nothing else that I have seen and it opened my eyes.
The discussions whether in person or on forums got heated. Those formed some grudges that can last quite awhile.
This is just an opinion but it seems that your side saw me as irresponsible, uncaring and reckless while I saw your side as weak and mindless with no independent thought. Who proved to be right after all the panic faded away?
For example, any car guy that sees a car as nice as this '70 Charger in an ad for such a low price and actually believes it sure seems like a person that is easily fooled.

[John_Kunkel]

Covid really shined a light on beliefs and behaviors of people. Some were the type that trusts the government and follow orders, others didn't trust what the media was pushing and resisted.

And some just toe the party line.

[b5blue]

Here I thought this was going to be a find out about this Charger for sale with no underside or interior pics. 

[Kern Dog]

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And some just toe the party line.
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That can be taken as partisan or not.
I agree though. Too many just did what their media told them to do and they happen to also follow what their elected representatives mandated.
I didn't. I didn't care what any elected official said, I looked around me and used common sense to guide me and my instincts were correct. There are countless examples of I told you so and nobody on the other side will apologize for getting it wrong.

[John_Kunkel]

And some just toe the party line.

That can be taken as partisan or not.
I agree though. Too many just did what their media told them to do and they happen to also follow what their elected representatives mandated.
I didn't. I didn't care what any elected official said, I looked around me and used common sense to guide me and my instincts were correct. There are countless examples of I told you so and nobody on the other side will apologize for getting it wrong.

You missed the point, it's not about the actual truth of any issue, it's about how people perceive which side is telling the truth. While you love to downplay the truth dispensed by elected officials and the MSM, your own perception is most likely influenced by your attachment to a party line...it's called CONFIRMATION BIAS.

Confirmation bias is the tendency to favor information that confirms or supports one's prior beliefs or values.

[Kern Dog]

I know what that is. It has been repeated by you numerous times as if you think others are not getting it.
I'm not oblivious to your efforts.
My point was that too many followed orders without thinking. Maybe that was out of fear or lack of independent thought. Knowing what limited things that I know of you, that is something that you seem to respect...one with thoughts that they developed on their own with out following what you repeatedly call the herd.
I didn't care what the officials or the media had to say, I applied my own basic common sense. There was no underground movement to subvert the government at least I didn't know of any. Plenty of unrelated people had the same opinion as I did or to be humble, I had the same opinion as many others despite no organized type of "revolution" against the man.

[b5blue]

I'm just glad Trumpy is getting one of them new fangled electric cars. 

[John_Kunkel]

I didn't care what the officials or the media had to say, I applied my own basic common sense.

Which, coincidentally, just so happened to agree with the party line that you and the herd habitually adhere to?

[b5blue]

A fear driven agenda at that. Fear of science, fear of change, fear of con jobs, fear of cam failure, fear of everything!   

[Kern Dog]

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Which, coincidentally, just so happened to agree with the party line that you and the herd habitually adhere to?
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Sure. I simply looked around and noticed that things didn't add up.
It wasn't difficult. I've been proven right by my stance on it too.
Do you abandon your beliefs just because someone else happens to see it the same way?

[Kern Dog]

A fear driven agenda at that. Fear of science, fear of change, fear of con jobs, fear of cam failure, fear of everything!   

In the Covid times, hardworking people were deemed "nonessential" and lost their jobs while watching Tony Fauci's net worth climb. They were banished from church while thousands gathered in the street to worship George Floyd. They watched their kids fall behind in school while Nancy Pelosi and Lori Lightfoot broke the rules to get their split ends trimmed. Their dying loved ones left this world alone, while Obama danced with Hollywood stars at his 60th birthday bash. To add further insult, those loved ones were denied proper funerals, while 10,000 people gathered to eulogize a drug-addicted criminal in a gold casket on television. Only some Americans were authorized to print their opinions online, while others were punished and censored.

The delusion that we were "all in this together" didn't survive for long. A certain set of rules applied to the BLM protesters, the Democrat politicians, and the Hollywood elites, and another set of rules applied to everyone else. Americans started to realize they were being had.

When Covid vaccine mandates rolled out, the dichotomy was even clearer. For the vaccinated class, there were jobs, service academy appointments, college acceptances, and social acceptance. For the unvaccinated, there was talk of denying them entry to airplanes, restaurants, and stores, or even putting them into camps.



This was a copy and paste. NO, I did NOT write it though if I did, the sentiments would be the same.

[b5blue]

 

[Kern Dog]

Basking in your own ignorance is a sad thing.
Your beliefs during that time have been proven wrong at just about every turn. Now your like Baghdad Bob standing in front of a camera saying that there are NO US troops in the area while the city is in ruins and American Tanks and troops are all around him.   
You lost. Your side was wrong. It took awhile for the media to report on it but they finally admitted to many of the things that people like ME knew while it was all going on.
You only look stubborn and stupid by maintaining the lie.

[b5blue]

Dude you crack me up! What's next throwing your poop! 

[John_Kunkel]

Sure. I simply looked around and noticed that things didn't add up.

In your opinion.
 

It wasn't difficult.

It isn't difficult if you base your findings on predispositions.

I've been proven right by my stance on it too.

Proven right according to who?

Do you abandon your beliefs just because someone else happens to see it the same way?

No, but you seem to base your beliefs on the fact that others of your ilk see things the same way i.e. "herd behavior".

[John_Kunkel]

Basking in your own ignorance is a sad thing.
Your beliefs during that time have been proven wrong at just about every turn.

Once again you say "proven", but proven to who? Be aware that what you accept as proof isn't acceptable to all, especially when your political affiliation is well known.  Classic example of confirmation bias.

[b5blue]

So the car on the list....nobody knows the real story? I figured someone here would claim it? 

[DD]

So the car on the list....nobody knows the real story? I figured someone here would claim it? 

The car was last seen for sale in August 2021 on EBAY from Garage Kept Motors out of Grand Rapids Michigan. At that time the price was $84,900.

[b5blue]

Thanks!

[Kern Dog]

The 1969 year used to be my favorite until I bought my '70 25 years ago yesterday.
When I bought mine, I planned to swap the front ends to the 1969 design but within just a few days, I completely changed my mind on that. The '70 styling just grew on me to the point where today, I'd prefer a '70 long before a '69 model. Maybe it is the open, undivided grille because I like the '68 much more than the '69 model too.
After the Fast And Furious movies came out, the values of the '70 shot up to meet and sometimes surpass the other years.
Some refer to the front end as an automotive equivalent to a rolling harmonica but that is fine....I like mine, I'm not bothered if others don't like it.
This one listed though...Sometimes a buyer WAY overpays for one at an auction due to a bidding war, alcohol consumption or who knows what else. Maybe they own the car a few years and the interest in it fades so the owner lists it for sale, sometimes for less than they paid. The 68-70 Chargers have been on a steady rise in value for 20+ years so a car like this one that was sold 4 years ago for $85,000 but now is listed at just over half of that while incurring no damage or deterioration? Either the ad is real and the seller is desperate, maybe dead and the spouse is just looking to get rid of it.....OR the ad is a scam.