Help with '72 Rallye hood black out stencil.

[AKcharger]

So I'm T- Minus 1 week from paint only quandary I have is the hood stencil, how and when to do it?  
- My plan was put the stencil on a day or so after the clear is dry, then cut/buff the hood and the inside (blue..red in photo) stripes, but i'm going to also buff the semi-gloss black to "gloss" black like they did in photo
- If I cut/buff hood THEN put on stencil I fear the semi-gloss will not have anything to bite into...we'll if I do it right

I was thinking of Shooting "flat" black paint then when I cut buff hood it will turn "semi-gloss" think that would work??

Any suggestions appreciated

[hemi-hampton]

The question is very confusing, jumps all over the place, if your looking for a gloss black out just put that on before you clear the whole hood. LEON.

[hemi-hampton]

Kinda like I did on my Bengal Hood. No Stencil, all freehand. LEON.

[AKcharger]

Sorry about the confusion. I kinda figured it out.
- spray
- cut/buff
- apply stencil and scuff...the stencil tape should protect the non-scuff areas.

Leon - plan to go semi-gloss, what do you use for paint?? The hood is very impressive BTW!

[hemi-hampton]

So I'm T- Minus 1 week from paint only quandary I have is the hood stencil, how and when to do it?  
- My plan was put the stencil on a day or so after the clear is dry, then cut/buff the hood and the inside (blue..red in photo) stripes, but i'm going to also buff the semi-gloss black to "gloss" black like they did in photo
- If I cut/buff hood THEN put on stencil I fear the semi-gloss will not have anything to bite into...we'll if I do it right

I was thinking of Shooting "flat" black paint then when I cut buff hood it will turn "semi-gloss" think that would work??

Any suggestions appreciated

Confused here where you say your going to buff the semi gloss to gloss but then you say your going to buff flat black to semi gloss? never heard of such a thing Sounds like you need to shoot your body color, Is it B5 Blue base & then your going to Clear it? Do that, Rub, Scuff where you want to paint & paint semi gloss. All done, Ship it. LEON.

[AKcharger]

Lol...ok I'll clear it up.
- blackout area semi-gloss (originally organasol)
- plan now is base clear hood let cure then cut/buff
- apply stencil and scuff exposed area
- spray semi-gloss
- demask and done

So question now is what is best substitute for organasol

[hemi-hampton]

Lol...ok I'll clear it up.
- blackout area semi-gloss (originally organasol)
- plan now is base clear hood let cure then cut/buff
- apply stencil and scuff exposed area
- spray semi-gloss
- demask and done

So question now is what is best substitute for organasol

OK, You just said pretty much what I said. somebody in here had a newer method for imitation organisol. every time I've sprayed it I used the real thing. LEON.


http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,125355.0.html

[ACUDANUT]

They sell Decals for this. 

[AKcharger]

They sell Decals for this. 

They do for the '71. If you have a source for hte '72 I'd love it! I called phoenix Graphic if they made one, said all the curved edges make it difficult so only stencil

[AKcharger]

OK, You just said pretty much what I said. somebody in here had a newer method for imitation organisol. every time I've sprayed it I used the real thing. LEON.


http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,125355.0.html

Yeah, watched the videos, he did a LOT of work. but for a novice whose never done that, chance of messing it up are VERY high. if I can get something close I'd be happy

[AKcharger]

Well I WAS going to give that formula a try but seems two of those items are no longer available 

[ACUDANUT]

They sell Decals for this. 

They do for the '71. If you have a source for hte '72 I'd love it! I called phoenix Graphic if they made one, said all the curved edges make it difficult so only stencil

Same Decal for 72.

[AKcharger]

Same Decal for 72.

I wish that was true, I think the '71 is "cleaner" but Nope, different '72 MUCH bigger and goes around the bulge hence why vinyl isn't an option, would wrinkel

[Nacho-RT74]

72/74 are not decals because the blackout on them reachs the lower area of the bulge, so a regular vinyl decal will wrinkle trying to folow the curvature. Hence why they are painted on them and decal just on 71 being just on top.

[ACUDANUT]

 Well, Go with a 71 hood Decal.  I did. 

[AKcharger]

Too late, I elected to go with a Satin Urethane single stage and hope I don't have to buff it, if I do it turns gloss...I tested it. Paint is almost done, have to cut/buff but it all laid down nice

[hemi-hampton]

So far so good

[AKcharger]

Thanks Sir! stencil is going on tomorrow, fingers crossed for no dust nibs!

[b5blue]

Good luck! 

[hemi-hampton]

SO, How'd the black out go

[AKcharger]

SO, How'd the black out go

Still in work, delay  will post pic when complete

Consequences of having someone else do it

[hemi-hampton]

is it done yet  

[hemi-hampton]

anybody home  

[b5blue]

These things take time...

[hemi-hampton]

These things take time...

From the original post it sounded like, or the impression I got was he was doing the Black Out himself? Did he do the blue himself?

[AKcharger]

Hi guys, nope sorry, at work. The hood is done but haven't seen it yet, so will have to wait till Tuesday.
I had shop spray the car and the blackout. I was planning to rattle can the blackout myself but elected to go single stage urethane, so helped with stencil placement and let paint guy do it.
Stby for post and photos!

[hemi-hampton]

ok.

[AKcharger]

  

[b5blue]

PM replied to..

[AKcharger]

OK the long awaited results!

As you recall my 1st idea was cut/buff hood and blackout all at once to give color coat deep shine and black out a "satin" finish" ...Yeah that will not work. I tested the concept with a painted sheet topped with 1) Summit UP355Q Hot Rod Matte Black (left panel) Summit UP312Q Black Satin (right panel) and equal mixes of both for the center.
I rolled it on (hence awful texture) let it cure and taped off the top 1/4 for "before/after" and wet sanded to 2000 and buffed.

As you can see they all turned the same level of gloss...so I simply used the Black satin and hoped it would all laydown well with minor contaminants. As you can see turned out GREAT! even has an ever so slight amount of texture like the Organisol....I'm thinking this is about the closest you're gonna get.

One note - Dave my paint guy said after he laid on the Satin and it began to cure it had gray blotchy patches, he was concerned but HAD to get the stencil off before it adhered so just hoped for the best...next day, all good!

[b5blue]

Looks great!   

[hemi-hampton]

Congrats, Looks good.    where'd you get the stencil?

[AKcharger]

Phoenix graphics, pretty sure they're the only ones that make them.

Thanks, excited to get it put it back together!