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XX29L9B388180 - Mecum Dallas - lot S148 - September 2022

Started by held1823, July 20, 2022, 11:41:01 AM

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held1823

Dr. Hoehn's pride and joy
I cannot imagine selling the car bought new by my family.
Hopefully this gem ends up with an enthusiast and not just some money guy.

https://www.mecum.com/lots/DA0922-522115/1969-dodge-daytona/?fbclid=IwAR23SdoDMjUgAJIjcVXkoJETJQJTFWi7BtyRlus1vIwzKRwNtK_di5IaREo
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A383Wing

all that money spent on a "restoration" and they use a cheeseball part store $.75 cent positive battery cable end for the battery  :shruggy:

Daytona R/T SE

I remember seeing this car several years ago at Monster Mopar in St.Louis.

It was still in it's old paint job -Dark blue- I think?

A couple of years later it was back at Monster Mopar as we see it here.

The good doctor was always very friendly and glad to share his stories about his Daytona.

I would love to buy this car and keep it local, but I don't think I have enough kidneys, cars, or real estate to sell.🤔

69F8C500

Dr. Bill was a really good friend of mine and my dad. He always brought the car to our clubs show every year. This car was his pride and joy. Sad to see it leave the family and the St. Louis area. Hopefully the new owner will be as passionate about the car as bill was. Can't wait to see what it goes for and hopefully contact the new owner. Here a picture of it at a monster mopar some time ago:

GreatOne34

Should we be concerned about the oil pressure that looks like it is maxed out with the car appearing to be idling?? :icon_smile_question:

472 R/T SE

Quote from: GreatOne34 on July 20, 2022, 03:44:23 PM
Should we be concerned about the oil pressure that looks like it is maxed out with the car appearing to be idling?? :icon_smile_question:

Have you not noticed?  Junk, yellow, non performing gauges are big sellers nowadays.

426HemiChick

Quote from: A383Wing on July 20, 2022, 11:48:24 AM
all that money spent on a "restoration" and they use a cheeseball part store $.75 cent positive battery cable end for the battery  :shruggy:

Hi A383Wing,              21 July 2022

Don't think the "cheeseball" battery cable end you are referring to is a $0.75 cent cable end. It's a battery cutoff switch. Have them on our vehicles. Especially good if the car is going to be stored with the battery still in it. You loosen the green knob and the battery is disconnected. Remove the green knob and it becomes extremely difficult for a joyrider to start it. A professional thief probably has a spare green knob or two handy.

By the way, that "cheeseball" device costs close to $20.00

Looked at the Odometer, can't tell the exact mileage and didn't see any mention of it.

Best Always

426 Hemi Chicks
Veteran - US Navy  Ex-Smoker (05 Mar 69) 55 years, heading for 100, 45 to go. Still lots to learn, lots to make up for. Weren't no angel. Fugitive from Southlake TX's Kangaroo Court

426HemiChick

Quote from: 472 R/T SE on July 20, 2022, 06:38:04 PM
Quote from: GreatOne34 on July 20, 2022, 03:44:23 PM
Should we be concerned about the oil pressure that looks like it is maxed out with the car appearing to be idling?? :icon_smile_question:

Have you not noticed?  Junk, yellow, non performing gauges are big sellers nowadays.

Hi 472 R/T SE,                21 July 2022

Think a set of them recently went for $1.2 Mil. Fools and their money are soon parted.

Best Always

426 Hemi Chicks
Veteran - US Navy  Ex-Smoker (05 Mar 69) 55 years, heading for 100, 45 to go. Still lots to learn, lots to make up for. Weren't no angel. Fugitive from Southlake TX's Kangaroo Court

moparstuart

Always loved seeing  the Dr. at Rich's pre monster mopar events and at monster mopar   . This is absolutely my favorite Daytona color combo so i usally stalked the Dr and his car everytime i saw him . Loved his tales of the car and being the original owner . Storing it for years and having to cut down a tree to get the car back out of storage to get it going again.   Sad to see it being sold out of the original family like other have said ,  He had such a love and passion for the car and the hobbie .     http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,73364.0.html
GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

426HemiChick

Hi Folks,           21 July 2022

Hope the Doc is OK and just wanting to retire. I'm sure it is/was hard parting with something that means a lot. If you've never had a "Wing Thing" for most of your life, you may not know what it feels like to part with it, they are unique, precious and a testament to the ingenuity and creativity of the American Spirit. God Bless Our Country.

Best Always

426 Hemi Chicks
Veteran - US Navy  Ex-Smoker (05 Mar 69) 55 years, heading for 100, 45 to go. Still lots to learn, lots to make up for. Weren't no angel. Fugitive from Southlake TX's Kangaroo Court

moparstuart

Quote from: 426HemiChick on July 21, 2022, 11:47:23 AM
Hi Folks,           21 July 2022

Hope the Doc is OK and just wanting to retire. I'm sure it is/was hard parting with something that means a lot. If you've never had a "Wing Thing" for most of your life, you may not know what it feels like to part with it, they are unique, precious and a testament to the ingenuity and creativity of the American Spirit. God Bless Our Country.

Best Always

426 Hemi Chicks
he passed away and the family is selling it off , His grand son is heartbroken they are not keeping   
GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

A383Wing

Quote from: 426HemiChick on July 21, 2022, 03:14:27 AM
Quote from: A383Wing on July 20, 2022, 11:48:24 AM
all that money spent on a "restoration" and they use a cheeseball part store $.75 cent positive battery cable end for the battery  :shruggy:

Hi A383Wing,              21 July 2022

Don't think the "cheeseball" battery cable end you are referring to is a $0.75 cent cable end. It's a battery cutoff switch.

426 Hemi Chicks

you need to put your "old lady glasses" on and look at the positive battery cable end connected to the top post of the battery.....it's a cheeseball battery cable end....sticks out like a sore thumb...found at any parts store for under $1

Here's the picture in case you can't find the item that we are discussing. Look at the rear battery post, it's the positive post, closest to the firewall

Bryan

426HemiChick

Quote from: A383Wing on July 21, 2022, 05:27:02 PM

you need to put your "old lady glasses" on and look at the positive battery cable end connected to the top post of the battery.....it's a cheeseball battery cable end....sticks out like a sore thumb...found at any parts store for under $1

Here's the picture in case you can't find the item that we are discussing. Look at the rear battery post, it's the positive post, closest to the firewall

Bryan

Hi Bryan,            21 July 2022

If you had looked a bit closer, both cables are junk. Plug wires are a bit colorful if we are talking stock (OE).

It's a little difficult to see a lot what with our 4" screen. If that Daytona had an OE Hemi under the bonnet, we'd have paid more attention. Thank you for pointing out the error of our ways. We enjoy the banter.

We don't make mistakes often; the last time we thought we were wrong and it turned out we were right.

Thanks Again

Best Always

426 Hemi Chicks
Veteran - US Navy  Ex-Smoker (05 Mar 69) 55 years, heading for 100, 45 to go. Still lots to learn, lots to make up for. Weren't no angel. Fugitive from Southlake TX's Kangaroo Court

426HemiChick

Hi Folks,                  23 July 2022

Oops, wrong thread. What we get for staying up too late.

Best Always

426 Hemi Chicks

Veteran - US Navy  Ex-Smoker (05 Mar 69) 55 years, heading for 100, 45 to go. Still lots to learn, lots to make up for. Weren't no angel. Fugitive from Southlake TX's Kangaroo Court

Q5XX29

What a gorgeous Daytona. Sad to hear it is leaving the family. A reminder to us all that we are just the present caretakers of these cars... but if my sons sell my Daytona, I'm gonna haunt them from beyond the grave!
dakota_gt on Instagram

hemi-hampton

$1,000.00 NOS Battery Cables are Probably hard to find. The Repops are not accurate either. LEON.

426HemiChick

Quote from: A383Wing on July 21, 2022, 05:27:02 PM

you need to put your "old lady glasses" on and look at the positive battery cable end connected to the top post of the battery.....it's a cheeseball battery cable end....sticks out like a sore thumb...found at any parts store for under $1

Here's the picture in case you can't find the item that we are discussing. Look at the rear battery post, it's the positive post, closest to the firewall

Bryan

Hi Bryan,               23 July 2022

Well Mr. Magoo, you need to get yourself a pair of Geezer Peepers Diopter +10. In your post, (with the photo you supplied) chiding us for missing a goofy battery clamp, you missed the wing-nuts on the Battery Hold-down. Those wing-nuts look like they belong on an Air-Cleaner. There should be nuts on the hold-down, not wing-nuts.

That'll Learn ya!

I'm going to post a true story, not a Sea Story, on my main thread; it's about a blip in time when I was in the US Navy. It'll take about an hour to post. Think you will enjoy it.

Best Always

Christine, for the 426 Hemi Chicks

Edit: Sunday 24 July 2022, 0248 hrs MST

PS: It took 2+ hours.
Veteran - US Navy  Ex-Smoker (05 Mar 69) 55 years, heading for 100, 45 to go. Still lots to learn, lots to make up for. Weren't no angel. Fugitive from Southlake TX's Kangaroo Court

426HemiChick

Hi Bryan,                 23 July 2022

Story posted; took longer than I thought. Got it done did.

Best Always

426 Hemi Chicks
Veteran - US Navy  Ex-Smoker (05 Mar 69) 55 years, heading for 100, 45 to go. Still lots to learn, lots to make up for. Weren't no angel. Fugitive from Southlake TX's Kangaroo Court

Davtona



In 2007 I met Dr. Bill for the first time at Rich's Aero car get together the day before the Monster Mopar Show. The next day he invited me to ride with him and I was doing parade laps around Gateway Raceway in this car. I took this picture out thru the rear window of his car as we lapped the track. I always thought it looked like we were racing the bird. I think Dr. Bill kinda maybe was. He was a bit of a hotrodder at heart. We spent the weekend talking off & on about the car and its history. Then we parted ways. The next year 2008 I gave him a copy of this photo. Like to think it made his day and I think it did. Can't remember for sure if he gave me another ride that year but I think he did. Last time I saw him and the car was in 2009 at the last Monster Mopar show. As with others he will be missed. I to hope the car goes to someone who really wants a Daytona and appreciates the car and it's history. It has history, trees, I beams and such.

The negative battery post is indeed a cutoff switch. I saw him lift the hood and use it after driving the car. He took the best care of that car that he could and that switch was an example of that. As far as the positive post not being correct goes I don't think that bothered him in the least. Most of us (including me) are wrapped up in making these cars as perfect and correct as possible. He wasn't so worried about that part of the hobby. He loved this car and drove it, hotrodded it and just enjoyed it. At times like these I'm reminded that maybe he was closer to being right in this area.



426HemiChick

Quote from: moparstuart on July 21, 2022, 02:51:12 PM

he passed away and the family is selling it off , His grand son is heartbroken they are not keeping   


Hi Stuart,            24 July 2022

Really sorry to hear of his passing. Think we know how his grandson feels. We still miss our Daytona, we had it 48 years. The one thing that eases the pain of parting with her is that she now has an excellent home and caretaker in Bob Jennings. We hope the Good Doctor's Daytona finds a good and loving home.

Thank you Stuart.

Best Always

426 Hemi Chicks
Veteran - US Navy  Ex-Smoker (05 Mar 69) 55 years, heading for 100, 45 to go. Still lots to learn, lots to make up for. Weren't no angel. Fugitive from Southlake TX's Kangaroo Court

hemi-hampton

Quote from: 426HemiChick on July 24, 2022, 05:01:04 AM
Quote from: moparstuart on July 21, 2022, 02:51:12 PM

he passed away and the family is selling it off , His grand son is heartbroken they are not keeping    


Hi Stuart,            24 July 2022

Really sorry to hear of his passing. Think we know how his grandson feels. We still miss our Daytona, we had it 48 years. The one thing that eases the pain of parting with her is that she now has an excellent home and caretaker in Bob Jennings. We hope the Good Doctor's Daytona finds a good and loving home.

Thank you Stuart.

Best Always

426 Hemi Chicks

Maybe Bob should Buy it to add to his Collection?

426HemiChick

Quote from: hemi-hampton on July 24, 2022, 11:32:25 AM

Maybe Bob should Buy it to add to his Collection?


Hi LEON,              24 July 22

We wouldn't put any money on that "NOT Happening."

Best Always

426 Hemi Chicks
Veteran - US Navy  Ex-Smoker (05 Mar 69) 55 years, heading for 100, 45 to go. Still lots to learn, lots to make up for. Weren't no angel. Fugitive from Southlake TX's Kangaroo Court

426HemiChick

Quote from: Davtona on July 23, 2022, 10:39:45 PM

In 2007 I met Dr. Bill for the first time at Rich's Aero car get together the day before the Monster Mopar Show. The next day he invited me to ride with him and I was doing parade laps around Gateway Raceway in this car. I took this picture out thru the rear window of his car as we lapped the track. I always thought it looked like we were racing the bird. I think Dr. Bill kinda maybe was. He was a bit of a hotrodder at heart. We spent the weekend talking off & on about the car and its history. Then we parted ways. The next year 2008 I gave him a copy of this photo. Like to think it made his day and I think it did. Can't remember for sure if he gave me another ride that year but I think he did. Last time I saw him and the car was in 2009 at the last Monster Mopar show. As with others he will be missed. I to hope the car goes to someone who really wants a Daytona and appreciates the car and it's history. It has history, trees, I beams and such.

The negative battery post is indeed a cutoff switch. I saw him lift the hood and use it after driving the car. He took the best care of that car that he could and that switch was an example of that. As far as the positive post not being correct goes I don't think that bothered him in the least. Most of us (including me) are wrapped up in making these cars as perfect and correct as possible. He wasn't so worried about that part of the hobby. He loved this car and drove it, hotrodded it and just enjoyed it. At times like these I'm reminded that maybe he was closer to being right in this area.


Hi Davtona,               24 July 2022

Thanks for your wonderful tribute to the Doctor. We never met him but wish we had. Yes, his Daytona should end up with someone in the hobby that will appreciate and care for it. Speculators ruin things for the real Mopar folks and everyone else. Someone in Missouri found out we had the cars and asked if they could see them. The main guy met a guy that worked for me in Japan. The guy that worked for me happened to mention we had the cars and gave them our phone number. (corrected / edited 27 July 22)

They called and asked if they could come down to see the cars. We gave them the OK and they showed up with three trucks and trailers. We let them see the cars then they sat in their trucks with their cell phones trying to sell the cars before they bought them. We ran them off.

By your screen name, we have a feeling you have a Daytona. If you don't, we hope you have the chance one day soon. They are mystical in that there is a bond between them and their care taker. You really don't own them, they own you.

Take Care.

Best Always

426 Hemi Chicks
Veteran - US Navy  Ex-Smoker (05 Mar 69) 55 years, heading for 100, 45 to go. Still lots to learn, lots to make up for. Weren't no angel. Fugitive from Southlake TX's Kangaroo Court