Major Wreck Today w/ Cop Car NOW W/Pics

[Chris G.]

Well I think the Hemi Ram has had it's last ride. I got in a major wreck today with an unmarked police car. He was going through a red light. I was driving through green light and did not see him due to an SUV in the left lane. He hit me directly in my driver's side door and then into my wheel which actually broke off the truck. Honestly it's a miracle we are both not dead. He was going at a pretty good rate of speed also (around 45mph) when we connected.

Here's the odd part. He is NOT a police officer. It was a county car and he is what is called an "UnderSheriff". One person told me he said he was late for an important meeting? Anyway, my head is hurting pretty good right now because it banked off the moulded hand rail that helps you get in the truck, and if I feel bad later I will go to the hospital. Yes I am calling a lawyer and figuring out what's right and wrong about this. Nobody was cited at the scene for anything. It was very awkward being there alone with like 7 County cop cars surrounding their guy and here I was Joe Schmo waiting for them to talk to me. I have 2 witnesses who gladly gave me their info and said to call them. It was a hectic scene at this major intersection.

Any armchair opinions on this? I know you are supposed to yield for on coming emergency vehicles, but at the rate of speed he was doing, there's no way he came to a slow down at the light. Here's a bad drawing of the scene.

I'll try and get pics of the truck tomorrow.

Thanks for listening.

The blue dot is him and I am the red one.

[Ponch ®]

Here's the odd part. He is NOT a police officer. It was a county car and he is what is called an "UnderSheriff". One person told me he said he was late for an important meeting? 

thats bullshit when they (cop or no cop) do that. I've actually seen police cars and fire trucks come flying in through intersections with lights flashing and sirens blasting...and then casually pull in to the drive thru at Burger King.

[Shakey]

Hope you are doing OK Chris.

Don't worry about the truck, you can always get another one with the settlement money.

[Silver R/T]

well maybe government should step in and actually make a law where you can report them. I see it happen here almost weekly. Actually last summer cop t boned a car going through uncontrolled intersection. Im sure he's still got his position too. They get away with too easy.

[tan top]

damn dude you was both lucky   glad you are both ok , i would get my self off to hospital now if i were you, you might have a slight concussion or something , better be safe than sorry.

[derailed]

Glad your ok, weve had a problem here in our county with several of these kids ballin up there sherrifs cars and civilians getting hurt. The whole late for an important meeting thing sounds very questionable to me and I know there not suppose to go sailing through a busy intersection at 45 without slowing down prepared to stop. Sounds like it was his fault but they probably wont see it that way.

[BrianShaughnessy]

Wholey crap...  Glad you're in one piece!    It sucks but that's why they're called accidents.
Hope you're doing OK...  trucks can be replaced.

[Todd Wilson]

The boys in blue will take care of their man. You are screwed. I am sure the paper work didnt get filed the right way. I'd see if a lawyer can pull the radio tapes and call records to make sure he was really on a call somewhere that required that kind of driving. Or was he late for a meeting and using his shiny badge to bust his way thru traffic. I see them turn red lights on all the time to get thru an intersections red light and then turn them off again and cruise in traffic. Usually if you are on the same street they pull in to a parking lot to talk to another copper.


Todd

[TruckDriver]

That totally sucks about the truck, but your still alive and that is way more important then the truck. Hope you get better soon Chris.

[SuBLimE 69]

Here's the odd part. He is NOT a police officer. It was a county car and he is what is called an "UnderSheriff". One person told me he said he was late for an important meeting? 

thats bullshit when they (cop or no cop) do that. I've actually seen police cars and fire trucks come flying in through intersections with lights flashing and sirens blasting...and then casually pull in to the drive thru at Burger King.

Here we go, Start the cop flaming again.  Maybe someone at the F-in Burger King needed help, Maybe the call the were headed to got canceled and that was the best parking lot to turn the fire truck around.....You are prolly the same moron that gets pissed when he sees a Police Car driving over the speed limit with NO LIGHTS on and just draws the conclusion that he is abusing his position.  I hate turning the blue lights on...NO ONE else on the road knows what to do when they see them.  They STOP, merge LEFT, pull into the TURN LANE, do NOTHING, SLAM on the brakes ect..... basically looks like someone stepped on an ant pile.  It's safer for me never to use them until I come to the big intersections or into a larger traffic area and when i clear it turn them off.  Maybe it gives the public the wrong impression.......oh well, to damn bad. While negotiating and approaching that big intersection it's time to slow down and simply take your sweet time so accidents like Burnt's don't occur.  Grow some balls do the job and then I'll listen to you complain about cops until then, F-OFF !  Another armchair quarter back...prolly an F-n California democrate too......

Burnt -  no idea what an "under sheriff" could mean, maybe the Sheriff's bitch boy or secretary...I dunno but if he wasn't a sworn officer and was running lights or lights and siren through an intersection and not even a real cop..........I'd expect to make money during the civilsuit.  Sometimes those things happen and it sucks but like the other fella said, thats why they call it an accident.  

[SuBLimE 69]

The boys in blue will take care of their man. You are screwed. I am sure the paper work didnt get filed the right way. I'd see if a lawyer can pull the radio tapes and call records to make sure he was really on a call somewhere that required that kind of driving. Or was he late for a meeting and using his shiny badge to bust his way thru traffic. I see them turn red lights on all the time to get thru an intersections red light and then turn them off again and cruise in traffic. Usually if you are on the same street they pull in to a parking lot to talk to another copper.


Todd

Look another A-hole !  The above thread also applies to you...... 

[Ponch ®]

  Grow some balls do the job and then I'll listen to you complain about cops until then, F-OFF !  Another armchair quarter back...prolly an F-n California democrate too......

Democrat? Not even close.

I'm not saying that there arent legitimate resons for doing it, but I seriously doubt there was an emergency at the drive through.

I'm a big fan of cops, but let's not pretend that they don't do some "non-compliant" stuff every now and then.

[67_Dodge_Charger]

Once again someone that does not agree with some of the comments is letting the foul words fly.  This is what I don't like about some of activity by some of the members on this site.  Play fair or go to some other website.  Do you ever wonder why we have people leaving the site?  This a Dodge Charger fan site???  Hmm.

Sorry to hear about the accident.  Hope everything turns out for you. 

Robert

[Lowprofile]

Forget all the cop bashing/ blame game.........

You need to get to the hospital ASAP.   Get checked out & make sure you're all right. Don't wait. Head injuries don't always show up right away.

After you check out ok, Go get you a "Barracuda" Lawyer and let him loose!

There was an accident here a few years ago just like yours..........come to find out the guy driving the cop car was worker from an upholstery shop returning the car to the station.   

[Chris G.]

Thanks for the well wishes guys. I'm not looking to slam law enforcement here. I mean the guy was very nice about the whole situation. I do however have the cards stacked against me though. According to my insurance company, they say that the county is self insured and they have some sort of "Article 19 or 49 or something" that says they have no liability in accidents. Now I don't know how true that is, but if that's the case then I need to go to court. I am also not looking for some big payday. Yes my head hurts and now my left side is getting sore, but all I really want out of this is for them to pay from my 2003 19K mile truck. I highly doubt they will even consider it, which means not only will I be out a truck for it's book value, but I will need to buy another truck or car which will probably cost me more than what I get from the insurance company. I figure to lose 10K after all is said and done.

Of course all this happens on Friday and Labor Day weekend, so a lawyer will have to wait until Tuesday.

Sucks to be me...

[TheGhost]

Could still be worse.  You could have been more seriously injured, or you could have been driving the Charger at the time.

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

Cheer up dude, it doesn't suck to be you.......just sucks that you will have to be ridin' in the Geo-tastic-chick magnet-pimp flava-whip now

Main thing is that you're ok enough to call me and give me the heads up on the situation.   Imagine if you were driving the Geo-tastic-chick magnet-pimp flava-whip?  Surely it could have been a lot worse.

Hopefully Ill see ya tomorrow night at the Whiskey....I'll bring my armchair law book & we can study!

PS---make sure you get a new Hemi truck with the same towing capabilities before July 6th

PSS---Sublime, chill out dude

[Todd Wilson]

Here's the odd part. He is NOT a police officer. It was a county car and he is what is called an "UnderSheriff". One person told me he said he was late for an important meeting? 

thats bullshit when they (cop or no cop) do that. I've actually seen police cars and fire trucks come flying in through intersections with lights flashing and sirens blasting...and then casually pull in to the drive thru at Burger King.

Here we go, Start the cop flaming again.  Maybe someone at the F-in Burger King needed help, Maybe the call the were headed to got canceled and that was the best parking lot to turn the fire truck around.....

You are prolly the same moron that gets pissed when he sees a Police Car driving over the speed limit with NO LIGHTS on and just draws the conclusion that he is abusing his position.  I hate turning the blue lights on...NO ONE else on the road knows what to do when they see them.  They STOP, merge LEFT, pull into the TURN LANE, do NOTHING, SLAM on the brakes ect..... basically looks like someone stepped on an ant pile.  It's safer for me never to use them until I come to the big intersections or into a larger traffic area and when i clear it turn them off.  Maybe it gives the public the wrong impression.......oh well, to damn bad. While negotiating and approaching that big intersection it's time to slow down and simply take your sweet time so accidents like Burnt's don't occur.  Grow some balls do the job and then I'll listen to you complain about cops until then, F-OFF !  Another armchair quarter back...prolly an F-n California democrate too......

Sounds like you use your shiny badge alot!


Todd

[NHCharger]

Of course all this happens on Friday and Labor Day weekend, so a lawyer will have to wait until Tuesday.

Sucks to be me...

You do have a head injury. This is Memorial Day weekend.

Glad your OK, could have been worse, could have been driving your Charger.

[firefighter3931]

The boys in blue will take care of their man. You are screwed.

Todd

That is incorrect. Trust me, i drive emergency response vehicles for a living. The responding emergency vehicle be it ambulance, fire truck or police cruiser can go through a red light once it's been established that it is safe to do so.  This does not give emergency vehicles carte blanche to blow through red lights....even with lights and sirens blazing.  Chris, get a copy of the accident report ASAP and go over it. The guy driving that cruiser is screwed if what you're describing is correct. My guess is that they're trying to figure out how to keep you from sueing their asses off at this point. 

Get checked out immediately at the hospital. Often injuries will surface at a later time and you want to protect yourself. Don't sign anything until you've had a lawyer go over it....very important !!!!


Sorry to hear about your truck....that bites. Glad that you're not hurt too bad and that you were driving a Ram and not an econobox....things could have been much worse. 

Lemme know if i can help in any way. 


Ron


Ps. This is not a slam on police officers or any other emergency reponse worker. It is the responsiblity of the operator to operate the vehicle with due care and control. There are poor drivers in every profession (police, fire, ems). The guy driving this police vehicle doesn't sound like he was properly trained. If it goes to court, have your lawyer supoena the driver training records for this individual....if there are any. My guess is that there aren't any and that weighs heavily in your favor. If that's the case, the employer he works for is screwed...along with him !

[hemigeno]

 

Very well said, Ron

Chris, glad you're (mostly) ok, man!  Dealing with the accident stuff can be a pain, and there's no way any lawyer can make everything go back to the way it was before - but I'd say the Sherriff's Dept. will have to try and do right by you.  Be careful in how you deal with them in the meantime.

Hope there's no injuries that you just haven't found out about, either.

Good Luck!!

[Mefirst]

Damn.. that was a hit right in the bulleye... I'm happy your fine, it could have ended up allot worse... I also say go to the hospital and get youself checked out, specially cause you hit your head.. Head trauma can be weird sometimes, it wont show right away.. Get yourself checked out ASAP...

/Tom

[bull]

Glad you're ok, at least as far as you know. Better get yourself checked out though. As many cop cars, ambulances and fire trucks as I've seen going through an intersection I don't believe I've ever seen one not slow down and do a slow rolling check for cross traffic. Not saying that this guy just maintained his speed through the red light but it sounds as if he thinks lights and sirens automatically stop cross traffic like God parting the Red Sea for Moses. Don't most emergency vehicles have that automatic traffic control device now days, the thing that automatically the changes traffic lights of opposing traffic?

[Plumcrazy]

The boys in blue will take care of their man. You are screwed.

Todd

That is incorrect. Trust me, i drive emergency response vehicles for a living. The responding emergency vehicle be it ambulance, fire truck or police cruiser can go through a red light once it's been established that it is safe to do so.  This does not give emergency vehicles carte blanche to blow through red lights....even with lights and sirens blazing. 

That's the first thing they drill into your head when you start driving an emergency vehicle.   

[PURTBOY]

I am a Firefighter in the state of Kentucky, and our law states that while negotiating an intersection and you are faced with a red light, you must slow down enough that any other vehicle can count your lugnuts on your emergency response vehicle! This goes for ambulance, firemen, and cops! this is used to prevent accidents like this! also your vehicle must be able to be seen in a 360 degree radius for the emergency lights! You might check into your local laws on this.

also get 911's tapes as well to see if there was an actual call for this unit to respond! there might have been an extreme emergency for him to get to and that would have to be looked at too!

good luck in your recovery process, and don't hold a grudge against emergency service personal, they are just doing their jobs!!! god bless all who risk their lives each day for the public

[Arthu®]

Just glad you are ok, at least so far. I would get yourself checked out at a hospital though. Trucks can be replaced, would suck if you loose money on the whole ordeal but at least you'll live.

Arthur

[Darkness]

Get to the hospital ASAP and get checked out quick. Glad to see you're still alive but, worry about the truck and insurance later. Take care of your health for yourself and your family's sake.

[hemihead]

Sorry to hear of your misfortune.I am glad you are still able to tell this story.
I have the utmost respect for the Civil Servants that deal with the emergency and protection facets of our lives.But in my city the Police have a major god complex.They can do no wrong and feel they are just in the liberties they take.Around here they don't understand that being a Policeman is just a job.

[Charger_Fan]

Damn Chris, that sucks. I'm hoping your next post says something like "I just got back from the hospital & my cabbage exam checks out ok".

Glad you weren't injured worse than you were & that it wasn't the Charger that took the hit...every one of us would be weeping on our keyboards, if that was the case.

I hope everything turns out ok for you, good luck!

[Chris G.]

Ughhh.....

[BrianShaughnessy]

Ouch!!!  Sorry man...    I don't think Zaino's gonna fix that  .   Get yerself fixed up first.   Glad you came up today tho! 

[Wakko]

The UnderSheriff is just that...the next highest guy under the sheriff.  Usually it's a sworn position, but not always.  You need to find out the agencies pursuit/code 3 policy and find out if he was breaking it.  Regardless, it's his fault since YOU had the right of way.  Some will say it's failing to yield to a police vehicle, but you didn't knowingly do so, you simply didn't hear the sirens (if there were any).  He should have stopped and cleared EVERY LANE just like I do.  

Go to the hospital and find out from your insurance company where you sit.  You may need to get a lawyer, but I feel that they'll accept liability.  Also get a copy of the offical police report as soon as it's available and check the wording.

[Chris G.]

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[Just 6T9 CHGR]

Damn bro, looks pretty bad.....they aint fixin that.  Definately has frame damage.  Looks like the frame took most of the hit

Good thing he hit ya low.  It could have been much worse

[70charginglizard]

Thanks for the well wishes guys. I'm not looking to slam law enforcement here. I mean the guy was very nice about the whole situation. I do however have the cards stacked against me though. According to my insurance company, they say that the county is self insured and they have some sort of "Article 19 or 49 or something" that says they have no liability in accidents. Now I don't know how true that is, but if that's the case then I need to go to court. I am also not looking for some big payday. Yes my head hurts and now my left side is getting sore, but all I really want out of this is for them to pay from my 2003 19K mile truck. I highly doubt they will even consider it, which means not only will I be out a truck for it's book value, but I will need to buy another truck or car which will probably cost me more than what I get from the insurance company. I figure to lose 10K after all is said and done.

Of course all this happens on Friday and Labor Day weekend, so a lawyer will have to wait until Tuesday.

Sucks to be me...

I'm just glad to hear that you were not seriously injured Chris. Things can be replaced but cool people can't.
Get yourself into the doctor and have yourself cchecked out and worry about all the other crap after the holiday.

Good thing it didn't occur in that beautiful Charger of yours.

Fell better bud.

later

70charginglizard

[Mike DC]

 
Glad you're all right, man!  That wreck looks pretty serious.   

------------------------------------------------------------

Some valid complaints have been brough up, but I don't think this calls for a big cop-bashing thread just yet.

IMHO you should not be held liable at all (assuming you had a green light to go in the first place).  It should either go down as the striking cop's fault or else at least be declared a no-fault accident.  I don't know what you could do to recoup the indirect costs of the wreck.  I think getting reimbursed for the indirect costs like that is something that usually falls under a more extensive form of collision insurance.


I would defintiely start gathering info to "arm yourself" against being blamed for this wreck, though.  Not saying it will happen, but the potential is there and there's no shame in protecting your rights.  Get going right away to verify whether that cop really had just reasoning to be racing through the intersection with lights on, and stay in touch with the witnesses at the scene until you know how this is all gonna settle out.  If it turns out the guy had no justification for speeding at all, then you might end up with less financial damage in the long run.

 

[Arthu®]

Ouch that is extensive damage to the truck, so did you get yourself checked out yet? Hope everything works out for you.

Arthur

[472 R/T SE]

Cheer up dude, it doesn't suck to be you.......

Could still be worse.  You could have been more seriously injured, or you could have been driving the Charger at the time.

Your pimpin' ass could have turned out like me or worse.  My accident was nothing compared to yours...
I just seen this.   Gotta get yourself right first and not worry about the other crap. 
Get well buddy.

[tan top]

seeing them pictures , you was lucky . if it were higher,  doesn't bear thinking about

[Darkness]

That truck should be toast. I agree with what everyone else is saying. Stay on top of this until you get things straightened out. Get a lawyer and have him pull some stuff out of his sleeves because at this point the cards could be and would be possibly stacked against you. Even though you had a green light and you had the right away  they will try their hardest to make it look like you was the one at fault. Bottom line, the cops and the city at this point are looking to keep their buts off the line.

[dkn1997]

that will buff out....

seriousely, though, shit happens.  If what you described is correct, then he screwed up. period.  happens to everyone, cops are not immune.  I don't see the need for some people to start bashing the cops for running red lights.  running them is risky, but necessary.  sometimes it does not go well. 

I tend to doubt this guy was just late for a meeting though.  In this day and age, when everyone  is speed dialing their lawyer before the paramedics arrive,, I don't think any responsible person, cop or otherwise, would blow red lights unless they had to.

[Lightning]

no pics of the cop car?


Glad to hear that you're ok.

[Chris G.]

I tend to doubt this guy was just late for a meeting though.  In this day and age, when everyone  is speed dialing their lawyer before the paramedics arrive,, I don't think any responsible person, cop or otherwise, would blow red lights unless they had to.

I don't know what to tell you dkn, but he was not a police officer. I'm not looking for any pay day either. I also didn't see any county officers grab whatever "important" documents he had, and rush them to where he was going. Yeah, there may a lot of wrongful accusations against police officers, but this isn't one of them. Take a look at the truck pics and tell me he was going through a red light with caution. I guess you can always ask the only two witnesses who stuck around and see what they saw.

This was a serious impact, and I guess it's typical in this day and age for NOBODY to even stop their car and see if anyone was hurt. The 2 witnesses were not in vehicles BTW. Nice world we live in huh? I'll bet we gave them all a good story to share with their buddies this weekend about how they saw a wreck and kept on driving. New Jersey at it's best. 

Lighting06: I don't have pics of the police car, because I didn't have a camera at the time. I went to where my truck was yesterday and got pics of mine. Just picture an unmarked silver Crown Vic with the entire front smashed in, and you will get the picture. I am thankful he came out without a scratch.

Again, thanks to most for the well wishes, and many good comments/suggestions have been made. I thank all you guys and gals. 

ps- Some of you say thankfully I wasn't driving the Charger. If I was, I probably wouldn't be posting about this accident. Someone else would be telling you guys how I died with my boots on...so to speak. 

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

ps- Some of you say thankfully I wasn't driving the Charger. If I was, I probably wouldn't be posting about this accident. Someone else would be telling you guys how I died with my boots on...so to speak. 

I dont know about that bud.....that car is made of real metal and probably would have faired pretty well & protected you too boot.

Now if it was that other POS you drive.....(I'm not referring to the Tizz-tastic either.....)

[bad1032]

Yep alot of people see the Police turn on the lights to go thru an intersection but they have no clue where or what the Police may be going,they always think they didnt want to sit at the light, the way the codes work is you use the lights to go thru the intersection, sometime we leave them on some time we turn them off.  Even if we go thru a red like we have to use DUE CARE AND CAUTION, that is the key, you may have to get a lawyer involved, if they did not use that they should just get you a new vehicle and pay your medical bills.

[dkn1997]

If what you described is correct, then he screwed up. period.  happens to everyone, cops are not immune.  I don't see the need for some people to start bashing the cops for running red lights.

I am not saying at all that you are not telling the truth, sorry if it came out that way.  I don't think you are looking for a payday, but you know how a lot of people are, and cops probably are more aware of that more than most people.  that's why it boggles my mind that any sane person would blow through an intersection like that unless he had a damn good reason.  If he really was just late for a meeting, then he deserves whatever he gets out of this.  you did not deserve what happened, glad you are ok.

[Charger_Fan]

One of those paintless dent removers & some bailing wire would fix that right up.

I'm glad you came out of it as well as you did...glad your head didn't go through that window either.

[resq302]

Chris,

Glad to hear you are ok.  Now if I can be of any help, let me know.  Working for a police department has its advantages with getting free police reports.  Anyway, police, fire, and ems are to OBEY ALL TRAFFIC LAWS even when responding to emergencies.  I am a volunteer fireman also and when I drive the fire truck, I come almost to a dead stop at any intersection where I do not have the right of way.  Since you had a green and you could not tell he was a cop since he was in an unmarked car you should most certainly have the court on your side.  The cop, no doubt, was in the wrong. I would call whatever department it was and ask to talk to a supervisor about it and have an internal investigation done.  Be it a cop or no cop, they have no right to disobey the laws just because they work for a police dept.  My job I see it all the time... do as I say.... not as I do.

Most definitly I would go to the hospital and have yourself checked out.  Injuries dont aways show up right away.  Also, it is good to have your injuries documented and MAKE SURE on the accident report it is shown that you had injuries. 

Again, glad you are ok and that it wasnt one of your antiques.  If I can be of any help, let me know.

Brian

[B5 Charger]

By law, at least in Missouri, an emergency vehicle is not an emergency vehicle unless it has emergency lights and an audible siren active.  If I understand you correctly the car only had lights on.  Also I don't think a non-commisioned civilian is authorized by law to make an emergency run in a police vehicle.  I'm glad your ok.  I'm not a big fan of lawyers and lawsuits but, if what you say is true, they need to pay you for your truck in my opinion.  If they refuse I guess a lawsuit is your only choice.  

[Afflyer]

Chris,

My hat is off to you, my friend, for what you had to endure there.  Best of luck to you with your case- if I were a bettin' man- I'd put my money on you winning the settlement.  Giving the circumstances, I think you've got a good chance. Just make sure you have a good lawyer.  And be patient- it may take a while.

Hope you didn't get banged up too bad.  By the look of the pictures, it looks as though it could have been much worse on your end.

Bradley

[RD]

damn chris that just sux ass.  I do not have any great words of wisdom or outstanding advice, I just want to say that I am thankful that you are alive and doing well.  I hope everything goes well for you during this debacle, and I will have you in my prayers.

Jamey

[4402tuff4u]

Sorry to see this Chris. The main thing is that you are still here and not pushing daisy's out of the ground. All the other stuff will work out for you. In my opinion, you definetly have possible justification for litigation to at least get your vehicle back in order. Like everyone else has commented, makesure you get yourself checked out to makesure you are OK. All your internal organs got jolted pretty good.

[Ponch ®]

Ughhh.....

two words for you:

[resq302]

Don't laugh, that tool actually works pretty well.  Chris can attest to it as he saw my car at E-town after I used it on my fender.  Although, I think it will take a little more than that to fix you situation.

[694spdRT]

Sorry to hear about the accident Chris as I just got back and noticed the thread today. 

The truck can be replaced but, the important thing is that you are alright. From your description I think you have a good case for some type of compensation whether you feel the need to or not. If you have not already my advice would be to see a doctor and at least be checked over to document potential problems even if you are feeling OK now. From the looks of the truck you took a good impact and if any symptoms develop or linger on you may have trouble proving the cause later if it ever comes to that.

Take Care

Ty

   

[Chryco Psycho]

I have the parts you need sitting here

[moparjohn]

Glad you're OK Chris, but get checked out. The truck is replaceable, and hopefully you will be re-einburst fairly.

[THE CHARGER PUNK]

sorry about the wreck but i call dibs on that 5.7 hemi ,good thing ur ok and good thing that truck was that tall, if uwere in say a new charegru might not be here-MATT

[ChargerBill]

That sucks Chris, but I'm glad you're OK. I agree about getting looked at regardless of how "ok" you think you feel. I have heard of people dropping dead a week or so after an accident because the accident caused a tear or anomoly and then when they bent over and tried to pick up their kid an annurism burst or their aorta tore completely. I don't want to panick you, but I will admit that I'm trying to scare you just a bit.

As far as athe accident goes, I don't believe that the other driver can defend his actions, and you should not be liable for anything. One sure fire way to get the ball rolling in your favor would be to file a claim for the vehicle, medical and pain andd suffering with your insurance company. They will then go after the county and you should see a settlement check coming your way sooner than later. I in no way advocate frivilous lawsuits, but you obviously are legitimately a victim here and I have always found that if you aim high (ask for more than you expect) they will aim low and you will both meet somewhere in the middle....hopefully. Good luck bro....

[Old Moparz]

Chris, I finally had a chance to read this thread, & wow! That crunch makes the dent on my truck look like nothing. Glad you're okay.

Aside from whether the other driver was at fault or not, my money says you'll have more headaches with your own insurance company. Especially when they won't total it & tell you it can be fixed for $2800.     The insurance companies suck, all of them, it doesn't matter which one you have coverage with.

As for cop bashing, I won't, but I had two relatives who were police officers in NYC, & I had been told stories that would make your effen head spin. Not all cops, or any person in any proffession, are bad or abuse power, but some are "bad apples" if that's what you can call it. One of my cousins was kicked off the force, & an uncle (through marriage) had seen & done stuff that would make Rodney King ask to stay in L.A. & ask for another beating.  (I stopped talking to him & never went back to his home. Glad that stupid prick uncle is dead.)

[dart3404]

Sorry about your truck Chris. Glad you came out of it ok....

[RD]

That sucks Chris, but I'm glad you're OK. I agree about getting looked at regardless of how "ok" you think you feel. I have heard of people dropping dead a week or so after an accident because the accident caused a tear or anomoly and then when they bent over and tried to pick up their kid an annurism burst or their aorta tore completely..........

this is what happened to my cousin.  He had internal bleeding after an accident, did not know it, and died in his sleep the night of the accident.

[Todd Wilson]

So how did all this turn out for you??



Todd