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Keeping it real: Stock Vs. Modified.

Started by Brock Samson, May 23, 2006, 11:31:28 AM

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Brock Samson


BrianShaughnessy

Black Betty:  1969 Charger R/T - X9 440 six pack, TKO600 5 speed, 3.73 Dana 60.
Sinnamon:  1969 Charger R/T - T5 440, 727, 3.23 8 3/4 high school sweetheart.


Arthu®

It really depends on the car. But in most cases I go for modified. Of course the 1 of 1 super rare and valuable hemi Daytona R/T SE 500's should be restored back to original condition just for history's sake.

Arthur
Striving for world domination since 1986

Lowprofile

I like mine Modified.  :icon_smile_big:  That being said, Painting candy apple red flames & putting side pipes on a 69' Charger 500 would be a tragedy.  :'(
"Its better to live one day as a Lion than a Lifetime as a Lamb".

      "The final test of a leader is that he leaves behind him in other men the conviction and will to carry on."

Proud Owner of:
1970 Dodge Charger R/T
1993 Dodge Ram Charger
1998 Freightliner Classic XL

4402tuff4u

I like both. I like the stock body look with a good punch! Not saying that the stock engines were slauch, but I just like to have a bit extra, however I like keeping the engine looking stock too. :icon_smile_big:  Like Capt. Kirk says " Scotty, we need more power!!"

"Mother should I trust the government?........... Pink Floyd "Mother"

Blown70

That depends on the car, as mentioned before.  

I really do not want a REAL charger 500 or Daytona.  Not that I would turn one down for the right price.

I want to run EFI, Hedders, aftermarket exhaust, electronic ignition, aftermarket Rims, tires.  DISC BRAKES for god sakes.

Tom

tan top

people have different ideas on how they want their ride to look, it is up to the owner of the vehicle , i can  appreciate the amount of time & money that goes into them ,i like them all. but i  rather  see    real HEMI -C500-R/T -R/T SE-DAYTONA chargers , returned to stock, or with ( as i have done to mine) only wheel /tires/ suspension / braking modifications /chassis connectors/  headers/ stroker motors,etc but at the end of the day it is up to the owner, just don't let them turn into another " cars in barns" mopar quietly rusting away  waiting to go to the big junk yard in the sky.
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

700HPCharger

It's YOUR car, do what YOU like, if people don't like it tell them they can go build thier own....

cudacharger

I like Stock and Modified...... depends on the car and the history behind the car.






The Ghoul

To me the 71 barracuda is the only car I could think of that I wouldn't modify!
I would not be able to justify hot-rodding a rare car or doing any thing that would put a numbers matching drive train in risk.
But, if you have a commonly optioned car, or a non matching drive train do it up!!

My 73 is a 400cid column auto and allot of the electronics don't work worth any thing now. So I am going with a full set of auto meter gauges for a custom cluster, cleaning it up by shaving the handles and corner markers, and throwing in a modern sound system for driving pleasure.

For me it makes way more sense to buy after market stuff at a fraction of what original or reproduction stuff would cost. Then again I have never been the type to love a car for the nostalgic value alone.

I figure if its not rare and its not exactly what you want go ahead and modd it. After all what's the point of having a classic if your not happy with it. 

topduarte

I love originality but also like sme upgrades.

My 67 has the original engine, intake, carb, tranny, rear end, original carpet.

I have changed the rear end gears to 3.55's, currently pulled the 318 for a 440 (which I am trying to make as close to a 440 in 67).

Mine will have a mix of both but I want to keep it stock looking as much as possible including spark plu wire brackets, original mopar battery, etc.

To each his own!!

Now if I had that 69 500 that had 1500 original miles that I saw last year, that would be left as is!! ;D

Brock Samson

 Yes well being as my Charger was a basket non nothing car i felt it was exactly perfect for me to build my dream machine...
But this Road Runner being so original makes me want to keep all the stock parts on her,.. including the 36 year old crusty paint and trunk matt,..
so I have a Bit of a delema here... new steering wheel?.. guages on velcro?..?..
Some modifications seem to suggest themselves.. i wanna keep it real as a survivor, stop the rust of course butm man,... this purist stuff sucks!  :-\
Im thinkin a modest repaint but then she ain't a survivor if she is all shiney..
sour grapes i guess.. I allways wanted a clean original car for a daily but she's too rare and i don't wanna abuse her...

SirNik73

I like the Restofacation idea. I love the style of stock cars, but i want the best for my car. so if i can install better parts and keep the style of the car, then thats what i'm going to do. but i'm more on the stock side, because if i'd rather have the 30 year old part then somthing that is odvously some off the shelf part from 2006.
1973 Charger SE
1973 Charger Parts car
1968 Couger... got this one for free! and it looks like it was free :)
1983 Toyota Tercel 4x4 Daily Driver
1984 Mercedes-Benz 300SD

Old Moparz

I say modify the hell out of it & have fun. If the paint isn't shiny, compound & buff it first, & repaint it if it still looks like crap. Change whatever else is questionable if that's what you think. I do however, save the stock parts in case I ever decide to sell the car to someone who frowns on modifications so they can put it back the way it was. Anytime something like brakes & suspension can be upgraded, do it without a doubt. Just ask my friend with the Superbird that I put into the guide rail why.

My Scamp was a 42,000 mile survivor when I bought it, & the first thing I did was toss the bias ply tires & get radials. I wanted some more power later on & had the 318 redone with some HP goodies & never regretted it. When it showed some wear on the body & the interior, I had it fixed & repainted, & now I will recover the front seat. True, it's not a more rare HP car, but it's mine to have fun with. I'm not rich & chasing down a 1 of 1 type car, but in all honesty, I'd modify one of them as well.

Don't ask what I'd do to a Charger 500 with all the nose cone & wing parts I already own.  :D
               Bob               



              Going Nowhere In A Hurry

sixty6charger

Stock on the outside and interior... modified in the engine bay.
"...now bring me out those cheese sandwich appetizer you talked me out of."

4402tuff4u

Quote from: Harvey Birdman on May 23, 2006, 02:24:41 PM
Yes well being as my Charger was a basket non nothing car i felt it was exactly perfect for me to build my dream machine...
But this Road Runner being so original makes me want to keep all the stock parts on her,.. including the 36 year old crusty paint and trunk matt,..
so I have a Bit of a delema here... new steering wheel?.. guages on velcro?..?..
Some modifications seem to suggest themselves.. i wanna keep it real as a survivor, stop the rust of course butm man,... this purist stuff sucks!  :-\
Im thinkin a modest repaint but then she ain't a survivor if she is all shiney..
sour grapes i guess.. I allways wanted a clean original car for a daily but she's too rare and i don't wanna abuse her...

Do you have any pic's?  Like to see it.
"Mother should I trust the government?........... Pink Floyd "Mother"

derailed

I say go modified. Im in the same boat and it sucks. My car was all pretty much stock when i bought it except for a kind of shitty repaint of the original color about 20 years ago. Trying to impress some anal retentive ahole at a show with correctness isnt any fun in my book but thats just my 2cents. I agree with what sixty6charger said

Chris G.

Quote from: 4402tuff4u on May 23, 2006, 03:40:05 PM
Do you have any pic's?  Like to see it.

Good question. Where is this car? So much hype and I haven't seen a pic yet. Maybe I missed the pics? Link please.

The Ghoul

Quote from: Harvey Birdman on May 23, 2006, 02:24:41 PM

so I have a Bit of a delema here... new steering wheel?.. guages on velcro?..?..

have you thought much about mounting them to the steering colum?
If you dont have a colum shift that is. Puts them visable and you dont have to look like a ricer with a moster tack obstructing your view.
Eather that or make your self a pod out of fiberglass and put it in your hood!!

Mike DC

 
Rare car + mostly decent original shape = stock.

Plain-jane car + needs total resto = modify.

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Solid body/valuable components = think hard before modifying.  And think of selling/trading it.  Other people in the hobby will pay big-$$$ for clean original stuff.

When modifying bolt-on parts = buy an extra set of parts to modify & use on the car.  Store away the original parts.

In most cases = try to keep the mods reversible whenever possible, and avoid goofy/trendy mods that will look outdated in 5 years.

 

Brock Samson

i seem to be unable to link my camara phone with the computer without doing the bluetooth thing and i'm now unable to go through all that... sorry, i had no idea it would be so difficult.

694spdRT

I will put a vote in for stock in the case of desirable factory cars. Otherwise, like others have said modified is often more fun than what many cars came from the factory with.
1968 Charger 383 auto
1969 Charger R/T 440 4 speed
1970 Charger 500 440 auto
1972 Challenger 318
1976 W200 Club Cab 4x4 400 auto 
1978 Ramcharger 360 auto
2001 Durango SLT 4.7L (daily driver)
2005 Ram 2500 4x4 Big Horn Cummins Diesel 6 speed
2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited 5.7 Hemi

rare69

definetly stock on the outside but new and nasty on the inside. :yesnod:

dodge freak

:iagree:  There is so much great stuff today, not to use any of it would not be right. The only reason most of the stuff was used 35-40 years ago was because it was the best at that time. We don't have 110 leaded gas at the pumps for 30 cents anymore, but we do have high output ignitions that are much better that anything that was around 40 years ago. It just sometimes there is so much stuff , its hard to pick what is best for it.

The Ghoul

I am all about the G-ride concept; or as Wrecks to riches is trying to coin it the 'super muscle car' concept. It all boils down to something that looks stock with slight body modifications with heavy modern aftermarket parts on it to produce a comfortable driver that is dependable but still has the style of the old classic. Something that you wouldn't mind/ be afraid to drive every day.

Silver R/T

http://www.cardomain.com/id/mitmaks

1968 silver/black/red striped R/T
My Charger is hybrid, it runs on gas and on tears of ricers
2001 Ram 2500 CTD
1993 Mazda MX-3 GS SE
1995 Ford Cobra SVT#2722

Brock Samson


JimShine

I like a fairly stock appearance, meaning factory body lines and interior. I like the idea of modern brakes, maybe electrical and some engine parts. Anything that makes them more reliable and safer. Paint color or style doesn't matter to me and neither does the really anal nut and bolt details. Just a clean ride that matches the basic design and appointment of the original cars.

Brock Samson


NYCMille

MODIFIED BABY!! :punkrocka:

The Ghoul

Quote from: NYCMille on May 24, 2006, 06:23:36 AM
MODIFIED BABY!! :punkrocka:
Looks slick man,
Just wondering though..
Why didn't you put the spedo and tach to either side of the steering column in the center of the cluster ?
And
Those seats look good, what are they out of?

six-tee-nine

I like the modified stuff.....in the way the car allowes it.....


The ideal Charger for me : black and mean on a fat set of shiny 15" or maybe even 16" wheels, a slightly lowered suspension and a set of huge tailpipes...
For the interior, a large tachometer up on the dash will do just fine


The rest for as far as the looks go.....bone stock!
Greetings from Belgium, the beer country

NOS is nice, turbo's are neat, but when it comes to Mopars, there's no need to cheat...


Bandit4142

That is one beautiful '68!!   Very nice work.   I like modified as well.  The only reason I could see putting a Charger back together stock would be if you had something extremely rare, or 100% mint orginial to begin with.
1969 Charger - 383 mag auto - Sold and sorely missed.
1970 Charger R/T - 440 mag - sold
1969 Super Bee - 383 mag auto - sold
1969 Cornet R/T - 383 mag 4 spd - sold

Headrope

I've always felt it's up to the owner to do what they want with their car - even if it means doing something to a rare car. It's always a shame when that happens, but when put into perspective is their car.
Sixty-eights look great and the '69 is fine.
But before the General Lee there was me - Headrope.

Arigmaster

It depends on the car... If it's a numbers matching R/T or "real" Daytona or 500 I wouldn't change a thing on it. However, mine isn't any of those so..... I went for Modified.

Brock Samson

i figgured this was good for a bump:

So why is it the guys with modded rides are looking for stock stuff and the guys with stock rides are bored and looking for Mods?... ;D

Shakey


myk

Quote from: terrible one on May 23, 2006, 12:06:02 PM
Whatever you like best and want to do.

And that's what it boils down to, even if you want to keep it stock and fall asleep at the wheel and run into a light pole due to boredom...

red72chrgr

Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on May 23, 2006, 06:16:59 PM
 
Rare car + mostly decent original shape = stock.

Plain-jane car + needs total resto = modify.

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Solid body/valuable components = think hard before modifying.  And think of selling/trading it.  Other people in the hobby will pay big-$$$ for clean original stuff.

When modifying bolt-on parts = buy an extra set of parts to modify & use on the car.  Store away the original parts.

In most cases = try to keep the mods reversible whenever possible, and avoid goofy/trendy mods that will look outdated in 5 years.

 
:iagree: My plain jane 72 will get new mods where needed and mostly be a "sleeper/cruiser".
Nothing personal, just business

4402tuff4u

IMO I have the best of all worlds. I have a fairly stock 68 R/T body and a kick ass semi mod 440 to snap the boredom away! :yesnod:
"Mother should I trust the government?........... Pink Floyd "Mother"

6670charger

IMO opinion, depends on what you have.  As stated before; a very nice original car, or an original and rare car is probably better off stock.  Anything else; do what you will.

I labored for years trying to keep my 66 as close to stock as possible.   I happen to like the stock look and remember what these cars looked like new.  Now, I have no problem with some mods.
Proudly Confusing The Crap Out Of People Since 1963

Arigmaster

I haven't been board...    :icon_smile_big:


Silver R/T

http://www.cardomain.com/id/mitmaks

1968 silver/black/red striped R/T
My Charger is hybrid, it runs on gas and on tears of ricers
2001 Ram 2500 CTD
1993 Mazda MX-3 GS SE
1995 Ford Cobra SVT#2722

69bananabeast

modified with a stock look. I try to keep it looking as close to stock as I can besides the engine
1969 Charger  446
1970 Charger  318
1932 Ford Rat Rod   (under construction)