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Battery group

Started by duckmanreno, November 09, 2020, 12:26:03 PM

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duckmanreno

69 Charger 383 4 speed AC car.
What is the correct battery group to use in this car? Not worried about original looking, but what fits the tray correctly.

Thanks Joe
22 Ford F-150 5.0 super cab FX4 hunting rig and tow vehicle
92 Toyota Tercel.  Commute Car
69 Charger 383 4 speed project car.
73 Boston Whaler Montauk

A bad day hunting beats a good day at work!

John_Kunkel

Both the Group 24 and Group 27 were available, with A/C I would expect to see a 27.
Pardon me but my karma just ran over your dogma.

Mopar Nut

Measure your battery tray.
"Dear God, my prayer for 2024 is a fat bank account and a thin body. Please don't mix these up like you did the last ten years."

gtx6970

Quote from: Mopar Nut on November 09, 2020, 03:20:44 PM
Measure your battery tray.

battery tray is the same regardless of original battery. I would suspect a 27, But no way to say for 100% certainty unless you have the build sheet

Mopar Nut

Quote from: gtx6970 on November 09, 2020, 05:27:35 PM
Quote from: Mopar Nut on November 09, 2020, 03:20:44 PM
Measure your battery tray.

battery tray is the same regardless of original battery. I would suspect a 27, But no way to say for 100% certainty unless you have the build sheet

There's two different size battery trays.
"Dear God, my prayer for 2024 is a fat bank account and a thin body. Please don't mix these up like you did the last ten years."

6bblgt

all '69 Chargers had the same battery tray

that being said a 383 car had a group 24 battery as STANDARD equipment (a group 27 battery was a rare OPTION and most are found in cars originating in cold weather states or north of the border)

440HP & HEMI cars received the group 27 battery as it was STANDARD on a R/T

FYI - the A12 440+6 Super Bees & Road Runners had group 24 batteries STANDARD  :scratchchin:

6bblgt

of the ~65,000 US spec. V8 1969 Chargers (XP29): ~2,400 (~3.7%) were OPTIONED with the $8.40 group 27 battery "F25"

duckmanreno

Thanks I learned something today!
I will measure battery tray to double check. Car is not at my location.
22 Ford F-150 5.0 super cab FX4 hunting rig and tow vehicle
92 Toyota Tercel.  Commute Car
69 Charger 383 4 speed project car.
73 Boston Whaler Montauk

A bad day hunting beats a good day at work!

duckmanreno

Well the group 27 battery fit the tray perfect.
Never found a build sheet for my car. Assume it was an option.

22 Ford F-150 5.0 super cab FX4 hunting rig and tow vehicle
92 Toyota Tercel.  Commute Car
69 Charger 383 4 speed project car.
73 Boston Whaler Montauk

A bad day hunting beats a good day at work!

Nacho-RT74

Quote from: Mopar Nut on November 09, 2020, 09:50:14 PM
Quote from: gtx6970 on November 09, 2020, 05:27:35 PM
Quote from: Mopar Nut on November 09, 2020, 03:20:44 PM
Measure your battery tray.

battery tray is the same regardless of original battery. I would suspect a 27, But no way to say for 100% certainty unless you have the build sheet

There's two different size battery trays.

Eeeeehm... not
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

Mopar Nut

Quote from: Nacho-RT74 on November 22, 2020, 02:42:10 AM
Quote from: Mopar Nut on November 09, 2020, 09:50:14 PM
Quote from: gtx6970 on November 09, 2020, 05:27:35 PM
Quote from: Mopar Nut on November 09, 2020, 03:20:44 PM
Measure your battery tray.

battery tray is the same regardless of original battery. I would suspect a 27, But no way to say for 100% certainty unless you have the build sheet

There's two different size battery trays.

Eeeeehm... not

My 69 Charger came with the larger tray for a 27 group battery. My 68 Charger came with the smaller tray that would only fit a 24 group battery. I don't think anybody replaced the 68's. Both were rusted from the acid.
"Dear God, my prayer for 2024 is a fat bank account and a thin body. Please don't mix these up like you did the last ten years."

Nacho-RT74

mmmm, maybe just 68 and earliers deal?
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

6bblgt

it takes a special person to keep coming back with "but mine was different" with no supporting evidence   :brickwall:

part # 2530994 is the original and ONLY factory battery tray for ALL 1966-'69 b-bodies & 1967-'71 Imperials

Mopar Nut

Quote from: 6bblgt on November 22, 2020, 01:45:24 PM
it takes a special person to keep coming back with "but mine was different" with no supporting evidence   :brickwall:

part # 2530994 is the original and ONLY factory battery tray for ALL 1966-'69 b-bodies & 1967-'71 Imperials

So special needs person what else came on my 68 since you know so much about my cars? 
"Dear God, my prayer for 2024 is a fat bank account and a thin body. Please don't mix these up like you did the last ten years."

John_Kunkel

1968 parts book shows only one battery tray for B-bodies...same one used on the Imperials.
Pardon me but my karma just ran over your dogma.

Mopar Nut

Looking at the battery tray from that part number mine looks different. Who knows my 69 could have a dealer installed tray. hence measure your tray. 
"Dear God, my prayer for 2024 is a fat bank account and a thin body. Please don't mix these up like you did the last ten years."

A383Wing

My two cents worth here.....both my 66 Chargers have the group 27 larger battery tray, and my 70 Charger also has the larger tray as well

Bryan