I have found the widest wheel/tire combo you can put on a third gen. Many pics

[AKcharger]

DOAH!

[defiance]

Yup, I did replace the rear spring so it's sitting up perhaps a bit higher than many. My set up is 22570R15's on the front on 17x7's and 275R15's on the back on 8's. I really really wanted to go 10's but only way I could see to do that is have at least a 6 inch off set.

Thanks for the kind words...sorry to hijack the thread definace

lol - I'm only involved because I hijacked it anyway, so fair play and all

[Moparbob]

Hi,

Im going for the stock car look on my 73 Ralyee car,, low and wide. Im looking at 15" Cragars 15x10 on the front and rear. I can get 15" Cragars 4 1/2 backspacing at a pretty good real from Summit. I realy like the 50's you used. Opinions please?

[Moparbob]

I was reading about wheel and tire combo's here in another link. Someone referred to this link and so after reading it all the way through, I found it very interesting.

When I first bought my car, it was wearing a new set of 15x10 inch rallies on back with new 295/50-15" BFG's. They hung out too much past the rear fenders for my taste. The fronts were 15x7's, 235/60-15's. Too small/low profile for me. I called Stockton wheels and ordered a new set of 15x8 Rallies for the rear (took 5 weeks for delivery, they said they forgot about my order....nice  ) Anyway, and put 275/60-15 BFG's on them and they filled up the wheel well just right I think and look plenty wide  from the back. They hook up great too.

On the front, I went with 255/60-15's BFG's. Again, no problems with clearance and a nice footprint. The handling's nice too. I'm thinking, that's about as much tire as you can go with, without having to use spacers and or modifying the springs. Of course, I'm only talking about 15" wheels. Don't know about other sizes.

Your car is sitting just he way I like. So you dont think 10" 4 1/2 backspacing wheels will work? I wanted them all around

[Moparbob]

I can tell you with 100% certinty that a 15x10 (4.5 B/S) will not work with with ANY tire combo. The tire place I went to promised they would. We 1st tried 275x60R15's, that didn't work. The he said for sure the ones below would work 255x60R15's...nope still stuck out and rubed on bumps (plus looked wierd) so settled on 15x8's (4 inch backspace) and went back to the 275's. They fit but it's by a chipmunk hair! I think it's a winner (3rd photo)

So your saying that 10" wheels just wont work if you want the car low and wide? I want the top of my tires right at the wheel lip on the rear.

[Paul G]

On the rears,
To use 10" wheels you will need 5 1/2" backspace to clear the fender but, the tire might still rub the spring. Then you will need longer studs and a spacer, or move the spring inboard which is not easy on a 73 or 74.

On the front,
4 1/4 backspace is needed to clear the upper control arms with a 15" wheel. I don't think a 10" wheel will have a chance of fitting inside the fender. An 8" wheel with a 255/60 is close.

[thrillbilly]

The 15x8 Cragars are 4.25 backspace, I have those on my Charger with a 275 tire and they fit and look good.  I don't know if you would want to put those 15x10's on the front, they have such a deep offset they may look funny on there.  You can order custom backspaced Cragars through Summit racing for about 50 extra dollars.  I recently went to 10 Cragars, which have the same 4.25 offset.  I used the Mopar performance .800 spring relocation kit with the offset shackles and hangers.  I also had the rear axle housing cut down the same amount.  The 10 in. Cragars fit inside the wheel well.  I'm short on funds right now so I put the 275 on the 10 in. rim.  I lost an inch in height on the tire but it got really wide on that 10 in. rim!!!  When I cough up some more money, I think I can fit a 29/12.5/15 Hoosier on there. 

[HPP]

Hi,

Im going for the stock car look on my 73 Ralyee car,, low and wide. Im looking at 15" Cragars 15x10 on the front and rear. I can get 15" Cragars 4 1/2 backspacing at a pretty good real from Summit. I realy like the 50's you used. Opinions please?

Sounds like it will be tough to get these to fit on the back with 4.25 back space. most 10 fitements will require 5" or more of backsace, then you have inner fenders and frame rails to consider. I have never seen a 10" wheel fit on the front of any mopar without major body surgery tha twill alter the look from stock.

[Moparbob]

Would these wheels work fellers? Its a good deal

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/CRR-61815/

[Wookie316]

I agree with the 5 1/4" BS. I have 17x9 Magnums on my car with a 5" BS right now. I have a 275/50R 17 M&H Drag Radial mounted on them. Like most are finding, I have about a 1/4 - 3/8" more spring clearence on the P/S then the Drivers side. Here are a couple photos.

The tape is 7/8" thick. It is snug on the D/S so I am guessing it has about 13/16" space as it sits right now.



The P/S has a 7/8" tape width + about 1/4 - 3/8"



For awhile I was thinking about trying to fit a 305/45R18 into the well, but now that the 275/50R17 are on, I really like the stance. The 275/50R17 is a 27.8" tire which gives me 2" space to the top of the fender lip. A 305/45R18 is an inch taller. Not only will it be closer to the lip, I don't think it will fit inside? A 295/45R17 will probably just go with the perfect offset rim.





Would really love to fit a 295/45R17 in the well. They are a 27.2" tire, so only about 1/2" lower than the 275/50R17. Depending on tire bulge on a 295/45R17 on a 17x9.5 rim, I am guessing it would be an extra 1/4" bulge from a 275/50R17 on a 9", so that would take me to a 1/2 - 9/16" space left between the rim & spring on a 5" back space.
From the face of the tire that is on the car now, I am 2" to the outside of the fender lip, so a 9.5" rim with 5" BS takes me to 1.5" to the outside of the fender lip. Considering an extra 1/4" of bulge on the tire takes me to 1 1/4 - 1" from the outside of the lip. Technically still in the well, but barely.



From the measuring I have done I too am finding the 275 is easy to fit in the back of a 71-74 Charger, But a 295 wide tire is a challenge. What do you guys think?

[Mopar Nut]

I agree with the 5 1/4" BS. I have 17x9 Magnums on my car with a 5" BS right now. I have a 275/50R 17 M&H Drag Radial mounted on them. Like most are finding, I have about a 1/4 - 3/8" more spring clearence on the P/S then the Drivers side. Here are a couple photos.

The tape is 7/8" thick. It is snug on the D/S so I am guessing it has about 13/16" space as it sits right now.



The P/S has a 7/8" tape width + about 1/4 - 3/8"



For awhile I was thinking about trying to fit a 305/45R18 into the well, but now that the 275/50R17 are on, I really like the stance. The 275/50R17 is a 27.8" tire which gives me 2" space to the top of the fender lip. A 305/45R18 is an inch taller. Not only will it be closer to the lip, I don't think it will fit inside? A 295/45R17 will probably just go with the perfect offset rim.





Would really love to fit a 295/45R17 in the well. They are a 27.2" tire, so only about 1/2" lower than the 275/50R17. Depending on tire bulge on a 295/45R17 on a 17x9.5 rim, I am guessing it would be an extra 1/4" bulge from a 275/50R17 on a 9", so that would take me to a 1/2 - 9/16" space left between the rim & spring on a 5" back space.
From the face of the tire that is on the car now, I am 2" to the outside of the fender lip, so a 9.5" rim with 5" BS takes me to 1.5" to the outside of the fender lip. Considering an extra 1/4" of bulge on the tire takes me to 1 1/4 - 1" from the outside of the lip. Technically still in the well, but barely.



From the measuring I have done I too am finding the 275 is easy to fit in the back of a 71-74 Charger, But a 295 wide tire is a challenge. What do you guys think?

Are the wheels from YearOne? Very nice.

[Wookie316]

Yes they are. Very impressed with them. Just wish they were a 1/2" wider!

[Mopar Nut]

Where did you get the center caps?

[Wookie316]

They came from Year One as well.

[Charger-73]

Friend of mine bought 1973 Charger this summer. Now he is looking new rims and tires. He was planing to use 17" rims.

Front: 17" 8" wide, what would be best tire size and what is correct backspacing? He was planing to use 235 or 245 front tires.

Rear: 17" 9" or 9.5" wide, what would be best tire size and what is correct backspacing? He was planing to use 275 or 285 rear tires.

Could anyone tell us correct backspacing for those rims, thanks. And all other info is also welcome what we need to take care before we order the rims and wheels.


And thank you for great topic! =)

[Wookie316]

My 17" Year one Rally wheels are 17x8 in the front with a 4 1/2 B/S I do believe? I am using a 255/50r17 Nitto 555 on those rims.
The rear are 17x9 with a 5" BS. I am running a 295/45r17 Mickey Thompson. Hope these help.

[Wookie316]

- See more at: http://s566.photobucket.com/user/jhowdle/media/1971%20SuperBee/0924_zpse0dd5367.jpg.html?sort=6&o=23#sthash.NkPCR4uo.dpuf

[Charger-73]

My 17" Year one Rally wheels are 17x8 in the front with a 4 1/2 B/S I do believe? I am using a 255/50r17 Nitto 555 on those rims.
The rear are 17x9 with a 5" BS. I am running a 295/45r17 Mickey Thompson. Hope these help.

Thanks, this sure helps a lot!

Have you measured how much there is room in rear fender? How close the tire is the rear leaf springs?

And does the front wheels touch anything if you turn max to right or left?

If you have a change it would be great to have some close up photos rear wheels?

Thank you once again and that is one great looking Super Bee! =)

[AKcharger]

I can tell you with 100% certinty that a 15x10 (4.5 B/S) will not work with with ANY tire combo. The tire place I went to promised they would. We 1st tried 275x60R15's, that didn't work. The he said for sure the ones below would work 255x60R15's...nope still stuck out and rubed on bumps (plus looked wierd) so settled on 15x8's (4 inch backspace) and went back to the 275's. They fit but it's by a chipmunk hair! I think it's a winner (3rd photo)

So your saying that 10" wheels just wont work if you want the car low and wide? I want the top of my tires right at the wheel lip on the rear.

Sorry for the delay. The 10 inch WILL fit but if you put people in the back or stuff in the trunk the wheel lip is going to rub on and tear up the sidewall of the tire. And I have new leaf springs, so if you have old spring it may rub empty at the slightest bump

[Wookie316]

I have at least 3/4" on the outside to the fender lip and 7/8" to the spring. If you click the link in my post above it will take you to my album which should have photos you are looking for. Good luck.

[ACUDANUT]

AKcharger, I love your 72 Rallye. Have you ever thought about 71 stripes on it ?

[AKcharger]

AKcharger, I love your 72 Rallye. Have you ever thought about 71 stripes on it ?

Thanks for the kind words Sir. '71 stripes, LOL...good Idea!

[ACUDANUT]

 

[JPL]

Fronts:
Mickey Thompson Sportsman 28x7.5-15
Rears:
Mickey Thompson Sportsman Pro 29x12.5-15LT
MP spring relocation kit.

[texas charger 73]

What if rears were switched to a 275/50. Wouldn't clearance be better?  I want as wide as I can safely but still tucked in fenders so air shocks aren't  necessary