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Abandoned Superbird - 440 4-speed

Started by wish4hemi, August 21, 2020, 12:06:30 PM

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wish4hemi

These are not my pictures and this is not my car, so please don't PM me about its location. The original thread can be seen on For C Bodies Only: https://www.forcbodiesonly.com/mopar-forum/threads/theres-cars-still-to-be-found.57620/

Just cross posting here to see if it's a known car or not. Maybe in New Jersey?

TheAutoArchaeologist

This is actually a friend of mines car.  Yes it has been sitting a long time. 

It's great to see people trespassing on his private property, especially since I know he has signs saying "No Trespassing".

birdsandbees

Fucktards even opened the hood... wtf..
1970 'Bird RM23UOA170163
1969 'Bee WM21H9A230241
1969 Dart Swinger LM23P9B190885
1967 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S
1966 Plymouth Satellite HP2 - 9941 original miles
1964 Dodge 440 62422504487

ACUDANUT

 Well if it means something to you, HIDE IT BETTER.  Better yet sell it, (if you don't care about it) maybe the owner could afford to buy a mower and a weed eater and paint for the house a roof and maybe add running water.  :smilielol:

BS27ROB

Quote from: Devil on August 21, 2020, 01:05:41 PM
This is actually a friend of mines car.  Yes it has been sitting a long time. 

It's great to see people trespassing on his private property, especially since I know he has signs saying "No Trespassing".
And not just trespass but had to open the hood as well. No respect for what is clearly someone else's property.

timmycharger

Quote from: BS27ROB on August 21, 2020, 01:25:38 PM
Quote from: Devil on August 21, 2020, 01:05:41 PM
This is actually a friend of mines car.  Yes it has been sitting a long time. 

It's great to see people trespassing on his private property, especially since I know he has signs saying "No Trespassing".
And not just trespass but had to open the hood as well. No respect for what is clearly someone else's property.


Exactly.. try that in some parts of the country and get your a$$ shot off!

TheAutoArchaeologist

Quote from: ACUDANUT on August 21, 2020, 01:24:36 PM
Well if it means something to you, HIDE IT BETTER.  Better yet sell it, (if you don't care about it) maybe the owner could afford to buy a mower and a weed eater and paint for the house a roof and maybe add running water.  :smilielol:

He lives just a few blocks away in a similar small house.  The Superbird is literally behind the house.  Unless you were in a neighbors yard, you can't see the car. 

And I agree, I showed him a few options for car covers, car bubbles and some of those pop up garages.  Unfortunately this will be one that will sit like it is.

DoubleDlover

First thing that will go missing are the rear window moldings. Then the rear wing. At lest take those parts off and store them safely....

Birdflu

If the car isn't for sale it must have special meaning to the owner...I GET IT! If it has special meaning to the owner, why treat it like a bag of garbage or an old lawn mower that no longer works? Apparently the owner doesn't need or care about money. I am not one to judge, trust me, I am often criticized about the quirky decisions I make, but why let the car sit in a constant state of decay?  :brickwall: 

hemi-hampton

He'll probably say he plans to Restore it, Someday, as the years tick by. LEON.

62 Max

Quote from: Devil on August 21, 2020, 02:16:09 PM
Quote from: ACUDANUT on August 21, 2020, 01:24:36 PM
Well if it means something to you, HIDE IT BETTER.  Better yet sell it, (if you don't care about it) maybe the owner could afford to buy a mower and a weed eater and paint for the house a roof and maybe add running water.  :smilielol:

He lives just a few blocks away in a similar small house.  The Superbird is literally behind the house.  Unless you were in a neighbors yard, you can't see the car. 

And I agree, I showed him a few options for car covers, car bubbles and some of those pop up garages.  Unfortunately this will be one that will sit like it is.

Is that car by chance in NY ?

ACUDANUT

Well at least it's not a Daytona wasting away. :D

oldchevelle541

Quote from: Birdflu on August 22, 2020, 09:58:12 AM
If the car isn't for sale it must have special meaning to the owner...I GET IT! If it has special meaning to the owner, why treat it like a bag of garbage or an old lawn mower that no longer works? Apparently the owner doesn't need or care about money. I am not one to judge, trust me, I am often criticized about the quirky decisions I make, but why let the car sit in a constant state of decay?  :brickwall: 

BirdFlu is spot on. I surf the internet looking at all old classics regardless of make and see so any where they were left out in the elements to rust. Years back when I turned 16 my grandfather had an old Model A sinking lower into the dirt every year. I wanted the car to restore and was willing to buy it but other uncles were not willing to let it go. I said to my dad at the time that the others then should clean it up and store it properly to prevent further deterioration. If you don't have the time or money that is totally understood but everyone who cares has the ability or measure to make an attempt to protect the car somehow until you make a decision on what to do with it. In my case my uncle sold the Model A a few short years later without us knowing and we were not happy. I hope this bird has a good future and I wish the owner well. 

nascarxx29

Looked a superbird from NJ gym equipment in the yard Washington NJ I think
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

nascarxx29

1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

nascarxx29

1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

smithenhiven

Owner should be ashamed of himself.  Car's been sitting since before there was a tree was growing next to it.

chaaargerb

It always amazes me to see how mother nature just takes over. The same picture over a few years/decades and the car is now in a tree line. Looking at the engine picture it looks like it has a duel point distributor (6 pack car?) also it looks like the passenger side valve cover is hitting the fire wall. It still looks to have the trans in it with the shifter in place . I wonder if a blown clutch took out the bell housing and put the car out of commission. I'm sure the car is well known in the area and I would think someone would have offered to help get the car more secure (At least I would) If the owner is unable to do anything because of age or financially maybe just an offer to trim the trees back and trim the area around the car.  :Twocents:    

70 sublime

In the first set of pictures where you can see the gear shift handle

What are the circles on the dash pad just below the original radio ?
next project 70 Charger FJ5 green

Daytona R/T SE

I wonder if anybody has ever made a serious, substantial cash offer to this guy?

Or... has everybody that has asked him about it tried to steal it from him at a stupid low price, just to flip it and make money?

I'd like to go over there with $50,000 in hundreds and my trailer and then see what he has to say.  :scratchchin:

ACUDANUT

Quote from: Daytona R/T SE on August 23, 2020, 09:08:32 AM
I wonder if anybody has ever made a serious, substantial cash offer to this guy?

Or... has everybody that has asked him about it tried to steal it from him at a stupid low price, just to flip it and make money?

I'd like to go over there with $50,000 in hundreds and my trailer and then see what he has to say.  :scratchchin:

  It won't work. He does not need money apparently, or he would sell it.  Maybe offer him meth or any drug of his choice.  :Twocents:

62 Max

Quote from: chaaargerb on August 23, 2020, 08:18:52 AM
It always amazes me to see how mother nature just takes over. The same picture over a few years/decades and the car is now in a tree line. Looking at the engine picture it looks like it has a duel point distributor (6 pack car?) also it looks like the passenger side valve cover is hitting the fire wall. It still looks to have the trans in it with the shifter in place . I wonder if a blown clutch took out the bell housing and put the car out of commission. I'm sure the car is well known in the area and I would think someone would have offered to help get the car more secure (At least I would) If the owner is unable to do anything because of age or financially maybe just an offer to trim the trees back and trim the area around the car.  :Twocents:    

Enlarge the picture,no vacuum advance and appears to be aftermarket.

JB400

The only real issue looks to be the roof.  Car appears to be sitting on concrete, so no tall weeds around it.  Just makes the other Superbirds worth more.  It'll get sold eventually.

chaaargerb

Quote from: JB400 on August 23, 2020, 03:01:20 PM
The only real issue looks to be the roof.  Car appears to be sitting on concrete, so no tall weeds around it.  Just makes the other Superbirds worth more.  It'll get sold eventually.

Unfortunately the car is probably pretty wasted. If it's been sitting all those years it's water drains are all clogged up. Between all the dirt and leaves getting packed in over the fall, snow in the winter/ high humidity and rain in the summer I'm sure the cowl, window channels, and any upper body structure like the underside of the hood and decklid / trunk lips are going to be toast. Plus the biggie is the bottom half of the nose cone and rear window plug. The frames might be okay if they weren't starting to rust before it was parked. Is the car restorable? Because it's a bird I would say yes. It's just going to have to be someone younger and with deeper pockets than me. My bird was a mess when I bought it in the 80's and after 30+years it's almost done. If I was to do it again I would buy a good running cleaner bird and enjoy running it around instead of the thing siting in my garage waiting to be finished.     

62 Max

Quote from: chaaargerb on August 23, 2020, 05:20:59 PM
Quote from: JB400 on August 23, 2020, 03:01:20 PM
The only real issue looks to be the roof.  Car appears to be sitting on concrete, so no tall weeds around it.  Just makes the other Superbirds worth more.  It'll get sold eventually.

Unfortunately the car is probably pretty wasted. If it's been sitting all those years it's water drains are all clogged up. Between all the dirt and leaves getting packed in over the fall, snow in the winter/ high humidity and rain in the summer I'm sure the cowl, window channels, and any upper body structure like the underside of the hood and decklid / trunk lips are going to be toast. Plus the biggie is the bottom half of the nose cone and rear window plug. The frames might be okay if they weren't starting to rust before it was parked. Is the car restorable? Because it's a bird I would say yes. It's just going to have to be someone younger and with deeper pockets than me. My bird was a mess when I bought it in the 80's and after 30+years it's almost done. If I was to do it again I would buy a good running cleaner bird and enjoy running it around instead of the thing siting in my garage waiting to be finished.     

Good luck getting it finished,mine took 8 yrs and I thought that was a long time !!    :2thumbs: