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Original Superbird trunk lids

Started by mopar4ya, June 30, 2020, 07:14:44 PM

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mopar4ya

I am on the hunt for a replacement trunk lid for my bird, #168755. My car was missing it's original lid back when i bought it in the early 80's. I am hoping some you guys with original lids could look and see if they their lids have the provision for the go wing brackets or not, and if you would post the vin of the car. Trying to see a pattern of when the lids changed over from a standard lid.

Thanks!       

birdsandbees

1970 'Bird RM23UOA170163
1969 'Bee WM21H9A230241
1969 Dart Swinger LM23P9B190885
1967 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S
1966 Plymouth Satellite HP2 - 9941 original miles
1964 Dodge 440 62422504487

62 Max


odcics2

4 door sedans get the same lid with cutouts
or was it strictly a time thing??

Wondering how many guys will be running out to see
if they have cutouts on their Bird, or not!   :shruggy:
I've never owned anything but a MoPar. Can you say that?

6bblgt

yes, it's a timing thing - one decklid needed on the assembly line for any Plymouth B-body

Sgt Superbird

Yes, Greg, I did.  :yesnod: My trunk is the same as the previous pictures. I can't attach mine cuz my file is too large. I can't figure out how to compress my phone pictures.

70Sbird

Mine, some cutouts, not sure of their purpose...Original trunk lid, paint and jack decal...

Scott Faulkner

DAY CLONA

Quote from: 70Sbird on July 01, 2020, 09:03:41 PM
Mine, some cutouts, not sure of their purpose...Original trunk lid, paint and jack decal...


Spoiler brackets/braces

Dave Kanofsky

Quote from: 70Sbird on July 01, 2020, 09:03:41 PM
Mine, some cutouts, not sure of their purpose...Original trunk lid, paint and jack decal...

They're for the optional go-wing on a Road Runner/GTX
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Repsol17

RM23UOA175658
1970 Bird 440-4 bl Sublime green

mopar4ya

This is what a i need to see. I always thought there were no cut outs on the lids. Anyone with a early car here ?. Based on what has been posted so far, I assume I need to find a lid with the cutouts.

   Thanks!

PettyMower

RM23U0A164661

Sgt Superbird

170184 - mine has the cut-outs. (I re-read your post and see you requested VINs.)

Sgt Superbird

169441, recently posted on this site as "for sale", likewise, HAS the cut-outs. 165370 (eBay) does NOT appear to have the cut-outs, assuming these are original. ????

nascarxx29

Seeing base car was a road runner cutouts made sense.I seem same thing on 70 Coronet RT lids
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

Arnie Cunningham

I just looked at three original Superbird lids - two had no cut outs, the one on my car does.  To the best of my knowledge none have been replaced.
Brennan R. Cook RM23U0A169492 EV2 Manual Black Buckets Armrest 14" Rallyes
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Brcook.com contains the entire NASCAR shipping list of Superbirds sorted by VIN and a number of other pages dedicated to production information.

mopar4ya


PettyMower

Quote from: mopar4ya on August 10, 2020, 07:52:28 PM
Quote from: PettyMower on July 03, 2020, 02:05:56 PM
RM23U0A164661

Do you know if that is the original lid?

Thanks.

Bought the car in 1986...at that time it had 73,000 miles and been repainted around 1977. I have no reason to believe the trunk lid was ever changed. But because of it being painted, the jack decals were gone. I talked to the original owner numerous times, and the only mention of repair was the driver's door, because someone backed into it at the dealership.

mopar4ya

Quote from: Arnie Cunningham on August 10, 2020, 04:21:08 PM
I just looked at three original Superbird lids - two had no cut outs, the one on my car does.  To the best of my knowledge none have been replaced.

Would you mind sharing the vin #'s

Thanks!

RSI700VIPER

Here is my original trunk lid.  11/30 SPD and has wing bracket holes.
69 V2 Daytona 440 4-Speed 3.54 Dana
70 FJ5 Superbird 440+6 4-Speed 3.54 Dana
69 Talladega Torino 428 CJ
69 Mercury Cyclone Spoiler II Gurney Special
70 T6 Challenger T/A 4-speed
70 V2 Challenger R/T 440 Six Pack 4-speed
71 FC7 Challenger Vert Flemington Speedway Pace Car
71 V2 Challenger RT Formal Roof w/ V2 Stripe & Houndstooth

graybo

NO HOLES for a go wing on my original lid.  RM23V0A170886 :cheers:

birdsandbees

Interesting Graybo, mine is 170163 and was the 900th car out the door Nov 28th and yours was the same day and car 918.
1970 'Bird RM23UOA170163
1969 'Bee WM21H9A230241
1969 Dart Swinger LM23P9B190885
1967 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S
1966 Plymouth Satellite HP2 - 9941 original miles
1964 Dodge 440 62422504487

mopar4ya

Quote from: birdsandbees on August 15, 2020, 03:17:06 PM
Interesting Graybo, mine is 170163 and was the 900th car out the door Nov 28th and yours was the same day and car 918.

Interesting! Starting to think there is no right or wrong. Maybe I'm over thinking this and I just need to find a lid and go with it.


Thanks !

Alaskan_TA

The Go Wing spoilers and associated deck lids hit in Dec. 1969 (1970 model year) but the earlier version would have still been in use as needed for cars that did not have the Go Wing at times.

Same deal with the E-bodies, some with no spoiler still had the earlier version deck lid in use for months.

69HemiBee

This stuff will drive you nuts. 70 Cornet had three trunk lids. 70 Barracudas 4 if memory serves. 69 Coronets 2.
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62 Max

Quote from: 69HemiBee on August 18, 2020, 09:10:56 AM
This stuff will drive you nuts. 70 Cornet had three trunk lids. 70 Barracudas 4 if memory serves. 69 Coronets 2.

And from the outside they're all the same !  :scratchchin:

fastmark

Well, all this is really self inflicted, I think. It's funny how now we look at date codes and back in the day, we would pass on a car because it cost $200 too much. I don't have the vin number handy to my bird but it has the original deck lid and it's got the holes for the go wing.

nascarxx29

1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701