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73' Charger Rallye 340 vs 400 Production #'s?

Started by BMOTOXSTAR, June 23, 2020, 10:04:24 PM

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BMOTOXSTAR

So, I am having a debate with a Chevy guy.

He says a 73' Rallye Charger 340 Pistol Grip Charger is more rare and desirable than a 73' Rallye 400 highly optioned Charger, mine !

I want  :slap: him..yet I have to somewhat make my point. I would rather have a  BB Rallye with console and highly optioned A/C car than a 340 Pistol Grip Charger IMO.

If my Charger sucks that bad then F my life...I should just sell it and be on the quest for a 340 73' Rallye and mine is basically shit and I hate people.
73' Dodge Rallye Charger 400/4BBL
06' Dodge Ram Quad Cab 4X4 HEMI
15' Dodge Dart 2.7 SXT

70 sublime

Quote from: BMOTOXSTAR on June 23, 2020, 10:04:24 PM
So, I am having a debate with a Chevy guy.

He says a 73' Rallye Charger 340 Pistol Grip Charger is more rare and desirable than a 73' Rallye 400 highly optioned Charger, mine !

I want  :slap: him..yet I have to somewhat make my point. I would rather have a  BB Rallye with console and highly optioned A/C car than a 340 Pistol Grip Charger IMO.

If my Charger sucks that bad then F my life...I should just sell it and be on the quest for a 340 73' Rallye and mine is basically shit and I hate people.

I think your problem is you are debating with a CHEVY guy  :icon_smile_tongue:
next project 70 Charger FJ5 green

Chargerguy74

US production numbers:

396 WH23H3 D21s
396 WH23P3 D21s

EDIT: I for some reason thought your 400 was a 4spd. Probably because you were questioning its rarity to a 340 4 speed.
WANTED: NOS or excellent condition 72-74 4 speed shifter boot for bench or centre armrest car, part number 3467755. It's a rubber boot that looks like it's sewn up leather.

WANTED: My original 440 blocks. Serial # 2A188182 and 3A100002

70 sublime

What makes a 73 into a Rallye ?

I have most of the broadcast sheet for the car my parents bought new

WH23M3A

Our car was a 400 auto , power bulge hood,hood pins, half vinyl top with the long stripe down the side
Bucket seats console rallye dash   
next project 70 Charger FJ5 green

6bblgt

in today's world - a factory 340 4-speed is more desirable than a factory 400 automatic - all else being equal

the only 1972-'74 Chargers with a factory "power bulge hood" are RALLYEs

Chargerguy74

Quote from: 6bblgt on June 23, 2020, 11:24:59 PM
in today's world - a factory 340 4-speed is more desirable than a factory 400 automatic - all else being equal

the only 1972-'74 Chargers with a factory "power bulge hood" are RALLYEs

I agree. I missed that the OP's was an auto.
WANTED: NOS or excellent condition 72-74 4 speed shifter boot for bench or centre armrest car, part number 3467755. It's a rubber boot that looks like it's sewn up leather.

WANTED: My original 440 blocks. Serial # 2A188182 and 3A100002

Chargerguy74

Quote from: 70 sublime on June 23, 2020, 11:02:24 PM
What makes a 73 into a Rallye ?

I have most of the broadcast sheet for the car my parents bought new

WH23M3A

Our car was a 400 auto , power bulge hood,hood pins, half vinyl top with the long stripe down the side
Bucket seats console rallye dash    

A57 is the Rallye package.

Any one of the below would denote a 73 as a Rallye:

WL21H3
WL21U3
WH23H3
WH23U3
A57 on build sheet and/or fender tag (not normally on Lynch tags)
V21 performance hood treatment

Edit to add: J54 Sport Hood.

WANTED: NOS or excellent condition 72-74 4 speed shifter boot for bench or centre armrest car, part number 3467755. It's a rubber boot that looks like it's sewn up leather.

WANTED: My original 440 blocks. Serial # 2A188182 and 3A100002

BMOTOXSTAR

I pretty much have a piece of shit un-desirable 73' 400 BB Rallye Charger Console Automatic?

A 73' 340 Pistol Grip Charger Rallye is more desirable and my life sucks. Should just sell and find a 71' or 72'

F my Charger. This sucks...so much time & $ wasted on a shit car.

Should sell and find something of value that is more desirable...


This sucks...I have a turd of a Charger....

Keep a look out on the Cars for sale thread...
73' Dodge Rallye Charger 400/4BBL
06' Dodge Ram Quad Cab 4X4 HEMI
15' Dodge Dart 2.7 SXT

BMOTOXSTAR

Quote from: 6bblgt on June 23, 2020, 11:24:59 PM
in today's world - a factory 340 4-speed is more desirable than a factory 400 automatic - all else being equal

the only 1972-'74 Chargers with a factory "power bulge hood" are RALLYEs

Todays world sucks for me. I guess someone has to be a loser with a shit Charger.
73' Dodge Rallye Charger 400/4BBL
06' Dodge Ram Quad Cab 4X4 HEMI
15' Dodge Dart 2.7 SXT

BMOTOXSTAR

Probably going to have a rough time selling since it is un-desirable...this sucks. Waste of 16 years in this Charger.
73' Dodge Rallye Charger 400/4BBL
06' Dodge Ram Quad Cab 4X4 HEMI
15' Dodge Dart 2.7 SXT

Chargerguy74

WANTED: NOS or excellent condition 72-74 4 speed shifter boot for bench or centre armrest car, part number 3467755. It's a rubber boot that looks like it's sewn up leather.

WANTED: My original 440 blocks. Serial # 2A188182 and 3A100002

BMOTOXSTAR

Na, I am disgusted. I am  ignorant for all the time wasted on this thing. Time to move on and sell this thing and maybe have something to be proud of. A 400 Rallye Charger is pretty much low on the list and I wasted time & $.  Truth hurts and I am the dumb ass.

Chevy guy was right. My Charger  is undesirable and sucks pretty much. :'( :'(
73' Dodge Rallye Charger 400/4BBL
06' Dodge Ram Quad Cab 4X4 HEMI
15' Dodge Dart 2.7 SXT

BMOTOXSTAR

Quote from: Chargerguy74 on June 24, 2020, 12:38:01 AM
Lol, you have a really cool car man.

Cool but you agree it is undesirable. I pretty much have a boat anchor of a Charger.
73' Dodge Rallye Charger 400/4BBL
06' Dodge Ram Quad Cab 4X4 HEMI
15' Dodge Dart 2.7 SXT

Chargerguy74

WANTED: NOS or excellent condition 72-74 4 speed shifter boot for bench or centre armrest car, part number 3467755. It's a rubber boot that looks like it's sewn up leather.

WANTED: My original 440 blocks. Serial # 2A188182 and 3A100002

Nacho-RT74

Quote from: Chargerguy74 on June 23, 2020, 11:33:09 PM
Quote from: 70 sublime on June 23, 2020, 11:02:24 PM
What makes a 73 into a Rallye ?

I have most of the broadcast sheet for the car my parents bought new

WH23M3A

Our car was a 400 auto , power bulge hood,hood pins, half vinyl top with the long stripe down the side
Bucket seats console rallye dash   

A57 is the Rallye package.

Any one of the below would denote a 73 as a Rallye:

WL21H3
WL21U3
WH23H3
WH23U3
A57 on build sheet and/or fender tag (not normally on Lynch tags)
V21 performance hood treatment



The V21 was optional, the bulged hood is another code I can't recall right now
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

Nacho-RT74

Quote from: 70 sublime on June 23, 2020, 11:02:24 PM
What makes a 73 into a Rallye ?

Available with any V8 being 318 the standard but the 340 was a Rallye by default. In other words he only way to get a 340 was on a Rallye, and that could make more special a 340 being no matter if 4 speeds or auto

Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

Nacho-RT74

Quote from: BMOTOXSTAR on June 24, 2020, 12:30:45 AM
I pretty much have a piece of shit un-desirable 73' 400 BB Rallye Charger Console Automatic?

A 73' 340 Pistol Grip Charger Rallye is more desirable and my life sucks. Should just sell and find a 71' or 72'

F my Charger. This sucks...so much time & $ wasted on a shit car.

Should sell and find something of value that is more desirable...


This sucks...I have a turd of a Charger....

Keep a look out on the Cars for sale thread...

I have same drivetrain setup on my car than yours... and I'm plenty happy. Nothing like open the hood and look at a Big block in stock look ( no chromes, no header, no nothing, pure stock look ). Sure also in Vzla the 318 is the Mopar belly button and is hard to find any kind of Big Block around and that helps out.

Auto or 4 speed? Once I drove a 70 R/T 4 speed and for whatever reason I didn't feel comfortably with it. Maybe because I'm really used to my 3rd gen cockpit WAY MORE COMFORTABLE than a 2nd gen aside it was not my car. A 3rd gen is so far superior on the driver/car combo feeling like the car and you are one solid piece. AND so far so good I'm happy being auto.


FYI I stroked my 400  :D ( basic stroke combo )

Think on this, still being a 400 Is still not a 318 or 400 2 bbl. and to be honored to the truth, a 340 will be more special even being auto, but just because the only way to get a 340 is getting a Rallye, not because a 340 is more desirable than a Big Block as a default. Just because production numbers.

On 71 you could get a SuperBee with 340 and In fact it was the only way to get a 340 being a Bee ( similar case than the Rallye ), but, would you preffer a 340 Bee or 383 Bee? Is just because the facts/numbers or the juice you can get from it?
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

6bblgt

if you built the car for yourself = sounds like a winner  :cheers:

if you built the car to please some random stranger - then, YES, you wasted your time & money  :brickwall:  & maybe this hobby isn't for you  :shruggy:

Nacho-RT74

On a side note, you are still cooler than that Chevy guy whichever car he drives LOL. If he didn't care, why he would float on any kind of subject to bother you? LOL
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

Nacho-RT74

Now, if you want a pistol grip you still can get this



LOL

But honestly I feel the T handle way superior on comfort than any vertical shaped handle ( including the auto round knobs )
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

Homerr

Quote from: 6bblgt on June 24, 2020, 02:52:28 AM
if you built the car for yourself = sounds like a winner  :cheers:

if you built the car to please some random stranger - then, YES, you wasted your time & money  :brickwall:  & maybe this hobby isn't for you  :shruggy:

Well said!

70 sublime

I found the right spot on the broadcast sheet and yes our car was ( or is as we still have it around in several piles ) a Rallye A 57 code car

Our car is very rotten but still numbers matching but I never really had the erg to find enough parts to restore it as I never thought it was that special 
next project 70 Charger FJ5 green

Chargerguy74

Quote from: Nacho-RT74 on June 24, 2020, 02:16:23 AM
Quote from: Chargerguy74 on June 23, 2020, 11:33:09 PM
Quote from: 70 sublime on June 23, 2020, 11:02:24 PM
What makes a 73 into a Rallye ?

I have most of the broadcast sheet for the car my parents bought new

WH23M3A

Our car was a 400 auto , power bulge hood,hood pins, half vinyl top with the long stripe down the side
Bucket seats console rallye dash    

A57 is the Rallye package.

Any one of the below would denote a 73 as a Rallye:

WL21H3
WL21U3
WH23H3
WH23U3
A57 on build sheet and/or fender tag (not normally on Lynch tags)
V21 performance hood treatment



The V21 was optional, the bulged hood is another code I can't recall right now

Yes, but my statement is still true.

J54 Sport Hood. I know at least one member had a J54 on his Lynch road tag and no A57. None of my non V21 Lynch Rallye cars have J54 so I don't really mention it often. Makes me wonder why some got a J54 on the tag and most didn't. I added J54 to my previous post.
WANTED: NOS or excellent condition 72-74 4 speed shifter boot for bench or centre armrest car, part number 3467755. It's a rubber boot that looks like it's sewn up leather.

WANTED: My original 440 blocks. Serial # 2A188182 and 3A100002

Chargerguy74

Also, as far as I understand, for 73 the V6X or V6R side stripes would only be available on the Rallye. In 74, I think V6X was Rallye only, and V6K, V6Y, V6R were available on other models.
WANTED: NOS or excellent condition 72-74 4 speed shifter boot for bench or centre armrest car, part number 3467755. It's a rubber boot that looks like it's sewn up leather.

WANTED: My original 440 blocks. Serial # 2A188182 and 3A100002

Bad B-rad

Quote from: BMOTOXSTAR on June 24, 2020, 12:54:58 AM
Na, I am disgusted. I am  ignorant for all the time wasted on this thing. Time to move on and sell this thing and maybe have something to be proud of. A 400 Rallye Charger is pretty much low on the list and I wasted time & $.  Truth hurts and I am the dumb ass.

Chevy guy was right. My Charger  is undesirable and sucks pretty much. :'( :'(



As an outsider, looking in:
I think the word "UNDESIRABLE" is polluting your thoughts.
Sure your car may be LESS DESIREABLE then a 68 HEMI CHARGER, but is your Charger less desirable then NO CHARGER???
(I don't think so)
I can relate, I can FEEL your pain, as I have a 1969 Charger that is triple Green.
TRIPPLE GREEN  is most likely, the LEAST desirable  color combo of them all.
But you know what it's mine!!!!

In my opinion, so what about your Charger having a 400?, unless you are super CONCERNED about owning a car that other people like or with having an all original #'s matching car?
Even if you want a #'s or original looking car, you can pull out the #'s 400, place it away safe, and drop in a 400 block stroked to 493/512 and eat most anything that dare line up next to you!!!!
You already have a big block car, so torsion bars, and K-frame, and transmission are all big block.

Don't let anyone $h!T on your car, cause at end of the day you are driving a big block Charger, and one of the LAST big block Chargers, as 74 is the last of the muscle car Chargers.

Just my thoughts, its your ride and you are  the one who needs to be happy with it.
Do I wish my 1969 Charger was a 4 speed Hemi R/T, hell yes, but so what, I am still rocking a Charger.

I hope this lifted your spirts some.
Because you do have a cool car.