73' Charger Rallye 340 vs 400 Production #'s?

[BMOTOXSTAR]

So, I am having a debate with a Chevy guy.

He says a 73' Rallye Charger 340 Pistol Grip Charger is more rare and desirable than a 73' Rallye 400 highly optioned Charger, mine !

I want   him..yet I have to somewhat make my point. I would rather have a  BB Rallye with console and highly optioned A/C car than a 340 Pistol Grip Charger IMO.

If my Charger sucks that bad then F my life...I should just sell it and be on the quest for a 340 73' Rallye and mine is basically shit and I hate people.

[70 sublime]

So, I am having a debate with a Chevy guy.

He says a 73' Rallye Charger 340 Pistol Grip Charger is more rare and desirable than a 73' Rallye 400 highly optioned Charger, mine !

I want   him..yet I have to somewhat make my point. I would rather have a  BB Rallye with console and highly optioned A/C car than a 340 Pistol Grip Charger IMO.

If my Charger sucks that bad then F my life...I should just sell it and be on the quest for a 340 73' Rallye and mine is basically shit and I hate people.

I think your problem is you are debating with a CHEVY guy 

[Chargerguy74]

US production numbers:

396 WH23H3 D21s
396 WH23P3 D21s

EDIT: I for some reason thought your 400 was a 4spd. Probably because you were questioning its rarity to a 340 4 speed.

[70 sublime]

What makes a 73 into a Rallye ?

I have most of the broadcast sheet for the car my parents bought new

WH23M3A

Our car was a 400 auto , power bulge hood,hood pins, half vinyl top with the long stripe down the side
Bucket seats console rallye dash   

[6bblgt]

in today's world - a factory 340 4-speed is more desirable than a factory 400 automatic - all else being equal

the only 1972-'74 Chargers with a factory "power bulge hood" are RALLYEs

[Chargerguy74]

in today's world - a factory 340 4-speed is more desirable than a factory 400 automatic - all else being equal

the only 1972-'74 Chargers with a factory "power bulge hood" are RALLYEs

I agree. I missed that the OP's was an auto.

[Chargerguy74]

What makes a 73 into a Rallye ?

I have most of the broadcast sheet for the car my parents bought new

WH23M3A

Our car was a 400 auto , power bulge hood,hood pins, half vinyl top with the long stripe down the side
Bucket seats console rallye dash    

A57 is the Rallye package.

Any one of the below would denote a 73 as a Rallye:

WL21H3
WL21U3
WH23H3
WH23U3
A57 on build sheet and/or fender tag (not normally on Lynch tags)
V21 performance hood treatment

Edit to add: J54 Sport Hood.

[BMOTOXSTAR]

I pretty much have a piece of shit un-desirable 73' 400 BB Rallye Charger Console Automatic?

A 73' 340 Pistol Grip Charger Rallye is more desirable and my life sucks. Should just sell and find a 71' or 72'

F my Charger. This sucks...so much time & $ wasted on a shit car.

Should sell and find something of value that is more desirable...


This sucks...I have a turd of a Charger....

Keep a look out on the Cars for sale thread...

[BMOTOXSTAR]

in today's world - a factory 340 4-speed is more desirable than a factory 400 automatic - all else being equal

the only 1972-'74 Chargers with a factory "power bulge hood" are RALLYEs

Todays world sucks for me. I guess someone has to be a loser with a shit Charger.

[BMOTOXSTAR]

Probably going to have a rough time selling since it is un-desirable...this sucks. Waste of 16 years in this Charger.

[Chargerguy74]

Lol, you have a really cool car man.

[BMOTOXSTAR]

Na, I am disgusted. I am  ignorant for all the time wasted on this thing. Time to move on and sell this thing and maybe have something to be proud of. A 400 Rallye Charger is pretty much low on the list and I wasted time & $.  Truth hurts and I am the dumb ass.

Chevy guy was right. My Charger  is undesirable and sucks pretty much.

[BMOTOXSTAR]

Lol, you have a really cool car man.

Cool but you agree it is undesirable. I pretty much have a boat anchor of a Charger.

[Chargerguy74]

Yeah...

[Nacho-RT74]

What makes a 73 into a Rallye ?

I have most of the broadcast sheet for the car my parents bought new

WH23M3A

Our car was a 400 auto , power bulge hood,hood pins, half vinyl top with the long stripe down the side
Bucket seats console rallye dash   

A57 is the Rallye package.

Any one of the below would denote a 73 as a Rallye:

WL21H3
WL21U3
WH23H3
WH23U3
A57 on build sheet and/or fender tag (not normally on Lynch tags)
V21 performance hood treatment

The V21 was optional, the bulged hood is another code I can't recall right now

[Nacho-RT74]

What makes a 73 into a Rallye ?

Available with any V8 being 318 the standard but the 340 was a Rallye by default. In other words he only way to get a 340 was on a Rallye, and that could make more special a 340 being no matter if 4 speeds or auto

[Nacho-RT74]

I pretty much have a piece of shit un-desirable 73' 400 BB Rallye Charger Console Automatic?

A 73' 340 Pistol Grip Charger Rallye is more desirable and my life sucks. Should just sell and find a 71' or 72'

F my Charger. This sucks...so much time & $ wasted on a shit car.

Should sell and find something of value that is more desirable...


This sucks...I have a turd of a Charger....

Keep a look out on the Cars for sale thread...

I have same drivetrain setup on my car than yours... and I'm plenty happy. Nothing like open the hood and look at a Big block in stock look ( no chromes, no header, no nothing, pure stock look ). Sure also in Vzla the 318 is the Mopar belly button and is hard to find any kind of Big Block around and that helps out.

Auto or 4 speed? Once I drove a 70 R/T 4 speed and for whatever reason I didn't feel comfortably with it. Maybe because I'm really used to my 3rd gen cockpit WAY MORE COMFORTABLE than a 2nd gen aside it was not my car. A 3rd gen is so far superior on the driver/car combo feeling like the car and you are one solid piece. AND so far so good I'm happy being auto.


FYI I stroked my 400  ( basic stroke combo )

Think on this, still being a 400 Is still not a 318 or 400 2 bbl. and to be honored to the truth, a 340 will be more special even being auto, but just because the only way to get a 340 is getting a Rallye, not because a 340 is more desirable than a Big Block as a default. Just because production numbers.

On 71 you could get a SuperBee with 340 and In fact it was the only way to get a 340 being a Bee ( similar case than the Rallye ), but, would you preffer a 340 Bee or 383 Bee? Is just because the facts/numbers or the juice you can get from it?

[6bblgt]

if you built the car for yourself = sounds like a winner  

if you built the car to please some random stranger - then, YES, you wasted your time & money    & maybe this hobby isn't for you 

[Nacho-RT74]

On a side note, you are still cooler than that Chevy guy whichever car he drives LOL. If he didn't care, why he would float on any kind of subject to bother you? LOL

[Nacho-RT74]

Now, if you want a pistol grip you still can get this



LOL

But honestly I feel the T handle way superior on comfort than any vertical shaped handle ( including the auto round knobs )

[Homerr]

if you built the car for yourself = sounds like a winner  

if you built the car to please some random stranger - then, YES, you wasted your time & money    & maybe this hobby isn't for you 

Well said!

[70 sublime]

I found the right spot on the broadcast sheet and yes our car was ( or is as we still have it around in several piles ) a Rallye A 57 code car

Our car is very rotten but still numbers matching but I never really had the erg to find enough parts to restore it as I never thought it was that special 

[Chargerguy74]

What makes a 73 into a Rallye ?

I have most of the broadcast sheet for the car my parents bought new

WH23M3A

Our car was a 400 auto , power bulge hood,hood pins, half vinyl top with the long stripe down the side
Bucket seats console rallye dash    

A57 is the Rallye package.

Any one of the below would denote a 73 as a Rallye:

WL21H3
WL21U3
WH23H3
WH23U3
A57 on build sheet and/or fender tag (not normally on Lynch tags)
V21 performance hood treatment

The V21 was optional, the bulged hood is another code I can't recall right now

Yes, but my statement is still true.

J54 Sport Hood. I know at least one member had a J54 on his Lynch road tag and no A57. None of my non V21 Lynch Rallye cars have J54 so I don't really mention it often. Makes me wonder why some got a J54 on the tag and most didn't. I added J54 to my previous post.

[Chargerguy74]

Also, as far as I understand, for 73 the V6X or V6R side stripes would only be available on the Rallye. In 74, I think V6X was Rallye only, and V6K, V6Y, V6R were available on other models.

[Bad B-rad]

Na, I am disgusted. I am  ignorant for all the time wasted on this thing. Time to move on and sell this thing and maybe have something to be proud of. A 400 Rallye Charger is pretty much low on the list and I wasted time & $.  Truth hurts and I am the dumb ass.

Chevy guy was right. My Charger  is undesirable and sucks pretty much.

As an outsider, looking in:
I think the word "UNDESIRABLE" is polluting your thoughts.
Sure your car may be LESS DESIREABLE then a 68 HEMI CHARGER, but is your Charger less desirable then NO CHARGER???
(I don't think so)
I can relate, I can FEEL your pain, as I have a 1969 Charger that is triple Green.
TRIPPLE GREEN  is most likely, the LEAST desirable  color combo of them all.
But you know what it's mine!!!!

In my opinion, so what about your Charger having a 400?, unless you are super CONCERNED about owning a car that other people like or with having an all original #'s matching car?
Even if you want a #'s or original looking car, you can pull out the #'s 400, place it away safe, and drop in a 400 block stroked to 493/512 and eat most anything that dare line up next to you!!!!
You already have a big block car, so torsion bars, and K-frame, and transmission are all big block.

Don't let anyone $h!T on your car, cause at end of the day you are driving a big block Charger, and one of the LAST big block Chargers, as 74 is the last of the muscle car Chargers.

Just my thoughts, its your ride and you are  the one who needs to be happy with it.
Do I wish my 1969 Charger was a 4 speed Hemi R/T, hell yes, but so what, I am still rocking a Charger.

I hope this lifted your spirts some.
Because you do have a cool car.

[rich4406bbl]

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[Bad B-rad]

Heck a 1973 was good enough for the KING:

[BMOTOXSTAR]

Nacho, I have one of those man, it has to be about 13 years old aready.

if you built the car for yourself = sounds like a winner  

if you built the car to please some random stranger - then, YES, you wasted your time & money    & maybe this hobby isn't for you 

Well said!

[BMOTOXSTAR]

Nacho, thanks man. For all the help also. At the end of the day I suppose it really does not matter what the value is.As long as it makes you happy.

On a side note, you are still cooler than that Chevy guy whichever car he drives LOL. If he didn't care, why he would float on any kind of subject to bother you? LOL

[BMOTOXSTAR]

Thank you mane ! That does help. Yeah the Charger does make me happy and I am almost 50, owned this Charger alomst 20 years and finally realized my love for Chargers makes me happy and I have gone to cruises and shows on my own for 35 years and I don't know why I let this bother me so bad.

Na, I am disgusted. I am  ignorant for all the time wasted on this thing. Time to move on and sell this thing and maybe have something to be proud of. A 400 Rallye Charger is pretty much low on the list and I wasted time & $.  Truth hurts and I am the dumb ass.

Chevy guy was right. My Charger  is undesirable and sucks pretty much.

As an outsider, looking in:
I think the word "UNDESIRABLE" is polluting your thoughts.
Sure your car may be LESS DESIREABLE then a 68 HEMI CHARGER, but is your Charger less desirable then NO CHARGER???
(I don't think so)
I can relate, I can FEEL your pain, as I have a 1969 Charger that is triple Green.
TRIPPLE GREEN  is most likely, the LEAST desirable  color combo of them all.
But you know what it's mine!!!!

In my opinion, so what about your Charger having a 400?, unless you are super CONCERNED about owning a car that other people like or with having an all original #'s matching car?
Even if you want a #'s or original looking car, you can pull out the #'s 400, place it away safe, and drop in a 400 block stroked to 493/512 and eat most anything that dare line up next to you!!!!
You already have a big block car, so torsion bars, and K-frame, and transmission are all big block.

Don't let anyone $h!T on your car, cause at end of the day you are driving a big block Charger, and one of the LAST big block Chargers, as 74 is the last of the muscle car Chargers.

Just my thoughts, its your ride and you are  the one who needs to be happy with it.
Do I wish my 1969 Charger was a 4 speed Hemi R/T, hell yes, but so what, I am still rocking a Charger.

I hope this lifted your spirts some.
Because you do have a cool car.

[Chargerguy74]

I was beginning to think you were just joking around.

[70 sublime]

I was beginning to think you were just joking around.

I was thinking the same thing

[ACUDANUT]

Heck a 1973 was good enough for the KING:

But he did not drive a low compression smog motor.

[BMOTOXSTAR]

I was beginning to think you were just joking around.

Yes & no. I have put so much time into this Charger that sometimes it drives me crazy ! Trying to reason with myself on and knowing it is a Rallye which I love that and coming to terms that it is not the most desirable 73' Rallye. Makes it easier to even consider selling.

If I did I would have to have a 71' or 72' Charger SE lined up, even a SB . I have really loved those years also.

[Nacho-RT74]

If I did I would have to have a 71' or 72' Charger SE lined up, even a SB . I have really loved those years also.

I don't think would sell my 74 with 400 auto to get a 71 R/T. I like way too much 73/74 lines more than 71/72 no matter the final price of the R/T

[RiverRaider]

So, I am having a debate with a Chevy guy.

He says a 73' Rallye Charger 340 Pistol Grip Charger is more rare and desirable than a 73' Rallye 400 highly optioned Charger, mine !

I want   him..yet I have to somewhat make my point. I would rather have a  BB Rallye with console and highly optioned A/C car than a 340 Pistol Grip Charger IMO.

If my Charger sucks that bad then F my life...I should just sell it and be on the quest for a 340 73' Rallye and mine is basically shit and I hate people.

Your friend is not comparing apples to apples.  An auto to 4spd, that's a personal preference.  I have owned late 340 and 400 4spd cars, the rear tires lasted a lot longer on the 340 car. You could argue with your friend that your 400 is one of the better 400's and the '73 cast crank 340 is the least desirable of all the 340's there not even close to the early 340's.  Any way you look at it your car will turn more heads than most chevys will.       

[JW69]

If you've had your Charger for 16 years you obviously like it and you're probably ahead of the game financially as Charger prices have risen a lot in 16 years. As for 4 speed versus auto there are few muscle cars that were predominately 4 speeds therefore a 4 speed car is rarer but no more desireable to a dedicated auto box driver. I have had quite a few Mopars  the majority being big blocks and four speeds. My current car is a 73 340 4 speed Rallye but in terms of my personal favourite of all the Mopars I have owned the 73 isn't the favourite  but I have loved them all. Who can pick my favourite out of these; 68 383 4speed Charger, 69 1/2 six pack 440 auto Superbee, 70 383 auto Charger 500, 72 440 4 speed GTX, 70 383 4 speed 'cuda, 69 440 4 speed Charger R/T and the 73 340 4 speed Rallye.

[Chargerguy74]

Challenge accepted. The 72 GTX. Maybe the A12.

[JW69]

I missed out the 71 318 auto Charger SE, but yes the 72 GTX was my favourite best handling Mopar. Would expect a 72 440 4 speed Charger to be equally as good in the handling department. Have to say the  68 Charger was the best looking.

[Chargerguy74]

I missed out the 71 318 auto Charger SE, but yes the 72 GTX was my favourite best handling Mopar. Would expect a 72s 440 4 speed Charger to be equally as good in the handling department. Have to say the  68 Charger was the best looking.