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I have a 69 Charger 500 R4 paint with R6 interior

Started by Jfbosco, May 09, 2020, 09:51:30 AM

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Jfbosco

Hello,


My name is Jeff and I am new to the Forum. I wonder how rare my car is with R4 paint and R6 interior?

Does anyone know what Galen Govier charges to do his research on a car like mine?

RallyeMike

Hi Jeff. Welcome.

R4 is a common color, perhaps second to dark green metallic F8, but your red interior is uncommon. Unfortunately, there is no complete record known on all the details of how the 500's were optioned beyond what can be deciphered by the VIN (engine and trans).

Speaking for everyone here I'm sure, we'd love to see you share some pics and info  :2thumbs: (Be sure to downsize pics before trying to use them)

Here is an open source data base where info has started to be collected:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nOP_jm5OHD6FTiF2e4S83W0Lc55cVFCds3fiwwBsE-g/edit#gid=0
1969 Charger 500 #232008
1972 Charger, Grand Sport #41
1973 Charger "T/A"

Drive as fast as you want to on a public road! Click here for info: http://www.sscc.us/

mr. hemi

R4 body with R6 interior is rare, but not unknown. I own a '69 R/T in that combination. It was not supposed to be available according to the dealer order book, but a few are known. Years ago, our buddy Galen, mentioned it in one of his magazine ramblings. He mused that one of the "V" codes on the data plate was a "not recommended but build it anyway" designation. I wish I still had the magazine.
You know you are vintage when someone says, "Back in the day", and you can dispute their facts.

Jfbosco

Quote from: RallyeMike on May 09, 2020, 09:59:07 AM
Hi Jeff. Welcome.

R4 is a common color, perhaps second to dark green metallic F8, but your red interior is uncommon. Unfortunately, there is no complete record known on all the details of how the 500's were optioned beyond what can be deciphered by the VIN (engine and trans).

Speaking for everyone here I'm sure, we'd love to see you share some pics and info  :2thumbs: (Be sure to downsize pics before trying to use them)

Here is an open source data base where info has started to be collected:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nOP_jm5OHD6FTiF2e4S83W0Lc55cVFCds3fiwwBsE-g/edit#gid=0

Thanks for your response, I was just curious because I don't see too many with that color combination and at one time a guy that was collecting information on the 500 stated to me that he knows of only three with that color combination. Thanks for the spreadsheet

Jfbosco

Quote from: mr. hemi on May 09, 2020, 10:25:40 AM
R4 body with R6 interior is rare, but not unknown. I own a '69 R/T in that combination. It was not supposed to be available according to the dealer order book, but a few are known. Years ago, our buddy Galen, mentioned it in one of his magazine ramblings. He mused that one of the "V" codes on the data plate was a "not recommended but build it anyway" designation. I wish I still had the magazine.


Nice picture of your car, thanks for writing. I'll have to figure out how to downsize my pictures so I can post some

white


gtx6970

red interior seems to be  pretty rare in any year , model or body style. Regardless of exterior color

I know of a couple 1969 Charger RT's  with red interior.
And at least 3 other  Charger 500s with red interior. 1 A4 silver, 1 TX9 black and 1 White

Jfbosco

Quote from: white on May 09, 2020, 03:49:59 PM
Welcome Jeff to the 500 club!
[/quot

Thanks,
I'm happy to be here. What a great club

RallyeMike

QuoteThanks for your response, I was just curious because I don't see too many with that color combination and at one time a guy that was collecting information on the 500 stated to me that he knows of only three with that color combination. Thanks for the spreadsheet

It would be super cool if you could add your car (or send me the tag info and I will). I'm pretty sure it would be the only 2x red car on the list.
1969 Charger 500 #232008
1972 Charger, Grand Sport #41
1973 Charger "T/A"

Drive as fast as you want to on a public road! Click here for info: http://www.sscc.us/

Jfbosco

Quote from: RallyeMike on May 09, 2020, 10:43:48 PM
QuoteThanks for your response, I was just curious because I don't see too many with that color combination and at one time a guy that was collecting information on the 500 stated to me that he knows of only three with that color combination. Thanks for the spreadsheet

It would be super cool if you could add your car (or send me the tag info and I will). I'm pretty sure it would be the only 2x red car on the list.

So do you think it would be wise to post my tag on here? Also do you know someone that can do a vin number search for me to find out where the car was bought or from?

nascarxx29

1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

RallyeMike

QuoteSo do you think it would be wise to post my tag on here?

I have never heard a good argument why it makes sense to hide your VIN/tag/plate. It all depends on how paranoid you are.
1969 Charger 500 #232008
1972 Charger, Grand Sport #41
1973 Charger "T/A"

Drive as fast as you want to on a public road! Click here for info: http://www.sscc.us/

nascarxx29

And 69 500 Danny runs the 500 registry.And car club records we have past owners info
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

nascarxx29

1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

hemi68charger

Quote from: nascarxx29 on May 10, 2020, 10:58:23 AM
I knew of one in tx and maybe Idaho
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,9741.0.html

I think that red one is in the Conroe area... Still exists... At least friend saw one over there about 6 months ago under a carport, red on red..
Troy
'69 Charger Daytona 440 auto 4.10 Dana ( now 426 HEMI )
'70 Superbird 426 Hemi auto: Lindsley Bonneville Salt Flat world record holder (220.2mph)
Houston Mopar Club Connection

nascarxx29

It came out of Missouri City Texas before ending up in Tomball tx
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

doctor4766

Hi Jeff.
Great looking Charger.
How long have you had her?
Tell us a bit about how you acquired it.
Gotta love a '69

Jfbosco

Quote from: doctor4766 on May 10, 2020, 06:53:22 PM
Hi Jeff.
Great looking Charger.
How long have you had her?
Tell us a bit about how you acquired it.


Hello, well I've had the car since the early 80s and bought it from a friend for a low price. It's a 440 automatic car. It has came a long ways since I first bought it. I am only the third owner and wish I could find out who the first owner was and what car lot it was purchased from? It was only about nine or 10 years old before it ended up in a junkyard with a blown motor.

tan top

Quote from: Jfbosco on May 09, 2020, 09:51:30 AM
Hello,


My name is Jeff and I am new to the Forum. I wonder how rare my car is with R4 paint and R6 interior?

hello & welcome Jeff  :cheers: :cheers:   
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

Just 6T9 CHGR

Quote from: mr. hemi on May 09, 2020, 10:25:40 AM
. He mused that one of the "V" codes on the data plate was a "not recommended but build it anyway" designation. I wish I still had the magazine.

That would be the "V08" variance code....
Chris' '69 Charger R/T


Jfbosco

Quote from: Just 6T9 CHGR on May 13, 2020, 04:38:32 AM
Quote from: mr. hemi on May 09, 2020, 10:25:40 AM
. He mused that one of the "V" codes on the data plate was a "not recommended but build it anyway" designation. I wish I still had the magazine.

That would be the "V08" variance code....

Hi,

Thanks for posting, great chart info

Jfbosco

Quote from: white on May 09, 2020, 03:49:59 PM
Welcome Jeff to the 500 club!
[/quote


Well at one time I had the build sheet on my car and it said at the top of the sheet (special order 69 Charger 500) which I haven't seen another 500 with that at the top of the sheet. I was wondering if that can be created again?

RallyeMike

QuoteWell at one time I had the build sheet on my car and it said at the top of the sheet (special order 69 Charger 500) which I haven't seen another 500 with that at the top of the sheet.

Are you sure it was "special order"?. The few I have seen say "SPECIAL HANDLING CHARGER 500" at the bottom.
1969 Charger 500 #232008
1972 Charger, Grand Sport #41
1973 Charger "T/A"

Drive as fast as you want to on a public road! Click here for info: http://www.sscc.us/

Jfbosco

Quote from: RallyeMike on May 13, 2020, 12:04:18 PM
QuoteWell at one time I had the build sheet on my car and it said at the top of the sheet (special order 69 Charger 500) which I haven't seen another 500 with that at the top of the sheet.

Are you sure it was "special order"?. The few I have seen say "SPECIAL HANDLING CHARGER 500" at the bottom.

Well I'm pretty sure that's what it said at the top of the sheet. I thought maybe somebody had ordered it with those colorcombinations because maybe they didn't come standard that way. Also I guess it's possible to find out what number the car was being built. The VIN number is 217183

nascarxx29

1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

Jfbosco

Quote from: nascarxx29 on May 14, 2020, 09:51:45 AM
Jim V Idaho I might have a picture of it

Yeah that would be cool if you have a picture?

RallyeMike

QuoteWell I'm pretty sure that's what it said at the top of the sheet. I thought maybe somebody had ordered it with those color combinations because maybe they didn't come standard that way. Also I guess it's possible to find out what number the car was being built. The VIN number is 217183

If you still have it, the fender tag has code for special order cars "Y39". There are other "Y" codes that deal with various sales/delivery options. 

Thanks for sharing your info on this car. Good luck in your history search.
1969 Charger 500 #232008
1972 Charger, Grand Sport #41
1973 Charger "T/A"

Drive as fast as you want to on a public road! Click here for info: http://www.sscc.us/

nascarxx29

1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

69_500

I have fender tag info showing 3 known R4 red cars with R6 red interiors.

that is all I have information on at this time.

Jfbosco

Quote from: 69_500 on May 17, 2020, 11:22:13 AM
I have fender tag info showing 3 known R4 red cars with R6 red interiors.

that is all I have information on at this time.

Thanks for the info, must be rare then with that color combination to have only three cars with those colors.

69_500

Quote from: Jfbosco on May 17, 2020, 12:05:34 PM
Quote from: 69_500 on May 17, 2020, 11:22:13 AM
I have fender tag info showing 3 known R4 red cars with R6 red interiors.

that is all I have information on at this time.

Thanks for the info, must be rare then with that color combination to have only three cars with those colors.

Honestly that color combo is listed as "not recommended" and required a variance to even be ordered that way. So yes, its definitely an exception.

Mopar John

Quote from: 69_500 on May 17, 2020, 02:06:38 PM
Quote from: Jfbosco on May 17, 2020, 12:05:34 PM
Quote from: 69_500 on May 17, 2020, 11:22:13 AM
I have fender tag info showing 3 known R4 red cars with R6 red interiors.

that is all I have information on at this time.

Thanks for the info, must be rare then with that color combination to have only three cars with those colors.

Honestly that color combo is listed as "not recommended" and required a variance to even be ordered that way. So yes, its definitely an exception.
Danny,
Do any of the R4 exterior with R6 interior 500's have a red tail stripe?
MJ

Beep Beep Dave

A couple of years ago at Moparfest there was a R4 Daytona with Red interior.(V08 car) from the States.

And there is a 1969 Hemi Charger that is a V08 car as well....R4 on Red.

Dave
'69-1/2 SIXPACK/SIXBBL REGISTRY On-Line Registry for the Lift Off Hood cars!!!
Maple Leaf Mopars your Canadian Mopar site.

1970 Charger R/T


Jfbosco

Quote from: Beep Beep Dave on May 17, 2020, 05:37:35 PM
A couple of years ago at Moparfest there was a R4 Daytona with Red interior.(V08 car) from the States.

And there is a 1969 Hemi Charger that is a V08 car as well....R4 on Red.

Dave

Very nice Dave, great looking car

69_500

Quote from: Beep Beep Dave on May 17, 2020, 05:37:35 PM
A couple of years ago at Moparfest there was a R4 Daytona with Red interior.(V08 car) from the States.

And there is a 1969 Hemi Charger that is a V08 car as well....R4 on Red.

Dave

My dad also had a R4 red with R6 interior Daytona. It was auto on column

aerolith

Stunning Daytona and I don't even like RED!

But my eyes were drawn somewhere else... :drool5: :drool5: :drool5:
Never send to know, for whom the bell tolls,
IT TOLLS FOR THEE...

John Donne 1623

aerolith

Never send to know, for whom the bell tolls,
IT TOLLS FOR THEE...

John Donne 1623

odcics2

Quote from: aerolith on May 19, 2020, 06:17:50 AM
Stunning Daytona and I don't even like RED!

But my eyes were drawn somewhere else... :drool5: :drool5: :drool5:

:smilielol:
I've never owned anything but a MoPar. Can you say that?