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Started by jefferson, April 09, 2020, 05:56:31 AM

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jefferson

Hey guys, so i own a 68 charger with 70 dash,bezel and interior, why? ive no idea, previous owner must of installed it, anyways, everytime i look at the inside of another 68-70 i keep thinking to myself, something is off about my 68, what the heck is it! i know it has a 70 dash in it but compared to other 70s it just seems off, is the dash from another chrysler car? i was told no,, it would not be possible, ive stared at pictures of mine and a mates 70 for ages and it has been bugging me as to why something is OFF about my dash! It just seems so basic, too far away, to large, gauges seem larger that everyone elses second gen charger, ive no idea, but i think ive finally found the issue. Ive posted a photo of my dash, on the left, BLUE next to my mates 70. First thing i noticed, am i missing all the chrome trimming around the gauges, speedo and tach? and why is my clock so large compared to his, also i think the pattern of my plating is different, am not to sure. This has been bugging me all day.

Both are 70 dashes, even tho i own a 68 lol.

https://imgur.com/a/2pu0Uq1

if someone can please upload image, much appreciated. 

Sorry for the average photo of mine, only photo i have on my phone atm and i cant go take one now as my charger is in the workshop locked away.

what the hell is going on with my dash! why does it feel so different to sit in my mates 70 compared to mine!



jefferson

found one more photo of my dash, sorry for the blurry photo

jefferson

This is mates 70 dash.


timmycharger


jefferson

Thanks mate, i know mine is not a 68 dash, its a 70 dash, but it does not look the same as my mates 70s dash, or any other second gen charger dash ive looked at either!
it just seems off! Still trying to figure out whats going on with mine, i have no problem with it being a 70 dash, but i do have a problem with it not looking like a proper 70 dash lol

Mine just seems off for some reason,, trying to figure it out. When i hopped in my mates 70 today im thinking, something is not right with mine, why does my dash not look or seem to be like his, what is going on!

timmycharger

Ahh gotcha! It is early still and I read your post wrong!

jefferson

Quote from: timmycharger on April 09, 2020, 06:28:37 AM
Ahh gotcha! It is early still and I read your post wrong!

haha all good mate, ive been literally trying to compare my dash to other 68-70 dashes for the past few hours now and been trying to figure out why when i jump into my charger it does not feel as FACTORY as when i was in my mates charger, and that would be because of the dash and mine is not right, somehow.

Mytur Binsdirti

You're just finding this out now...after you purchased the car?    :shruggy:

jefferson

Quote from: Mytur Binsdirti on April 09, 2020, 06:35:56 AM
You're just finding this out now...after you purchased the car?    :shruggy:

lol yep pretty much , go figure hey.

Lol and still, even if i did know, it would not have stopped me from buying the car, True RT car, great price, 0 rust, yer 70 stuff inside, looks good, sounds great and i love her!

Anways, mytur, care to input on the topic at bay?

jefferson

My tur, besides stating the obvious that it is a 70 dash inside of a 68 charger. IF you please, list out the faults and why i feel it is different to all the other charger dashes, can list in dot points, lol .


richRTSE

It's hard to tell from the poor pictures, but it almost looks like someone repainted the dash black, and all the chrome accents are now black...?


jefferson

im thinking its either the missing chrome around all the gauges/switches or the chrome has been painted black, ill have to check,
if the chrome is missing, can you buy all the chrome to go around the gauges and does it just crimp in or does the faceplate have to come out and put in from behind?
if you cant buy the chrome by itself, i assume ill have to buy a new faceplate with the chrome already attached?
cheers

DAY CLONA

Yes both 70 Dashes, your's got the $1.98 blackout spray can finish, you have a TicTacTock set up, your mates car has the standard clock only set up...the bigger question is, is your 68 Charger outfitted with a 70 dash/steering wheel, or is your 68 really a 70, wearing 68 sheetmetal?

jefferson

Quote from: DAY CLONA on April 09, 2020, 08:09:52 AM
Yes both 70 Dashes, your's got the $1.98 blackout spray can finish, you have a TicTacTock set up, your mates car has the standard clock only set up...the bigger question is, is your 68 Charger outfitted with a 70 dash/steering wheel, or is your 68 really a 70, wearing 68 sheetmetal?

Nope, been down that path, true 68 car, Got the vin, Fender tag,, paperwork to confirm its a 68, Not one bit of sheetmetal replaced either, no signs of any chopping/ welding/ changing tail panel, grill etc. Unless they did a damn good job at it and made it impossible to tell it was a 70 now made into a 68. And unless the vin and fender tags are fake. How could you tell if it was a 70 converted into a 68? The sheetmetal all looks original, the tail lights all look original, and there is not 1 sign of the car having any mods done to it bodywise, ive been under the car dozens of times with a fine tooth brush and a magnifying glass.
SO im sure its safe to say its just been fitted with a 70 dash, also the woodgrain steering wheel was an option in 68 too. Seen plenty of 68s with the same steering wheel mine has, curious as to why you are calling it a 70 steering wheel?

70 sublime

Where is your key go ?
70 is in the locking steering column and 68 69 is in the dash

Do you have 4 way flashers ?
70 is on steering column and 68 69 should have another switch for it on the dash
next project 70 Charger FJ5 green

birdsandbees

He owns an ashtray and you don't ? As already pointed out his is A/C and yours is not and you appear to be missing the chrome highlights around all the gauges.
1970 'Bird RM23UOA170163
1969 'Bee WM21H9A230241
1969 Dart Swinger LM23P9B190885
1967 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S
1966 Plymouth Satellite HP2 - 9941 original miles
1964 Dodge 440 62422504487

ACUDANUT

 Don't feel bad My 70 Charger has a complete 68 Interior, including dash.  I bought it back in 85, no internet back then.  I did not know the difference.  Oh well, at least it is not green. !!

Nacho-RT74

Quote from: ACUDANUT on April 09, 2020, 10:56:22 AM
Don't feel bad My 70 Charger has a complete 68 Interior, including dash.  I bought it back in 85, no internet back then.  I did not know the difference.  Oh well, at least it is not green. !!

LOL... neither a 73 or 74 ? LOL

maybe you can interchange interiors!!!!
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http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

Nacho-RT74

BTW not just a 70 cluster but also front buckets. Steering column seems to be 68/69 from the distance?¿?¿?¿? , what it means you don't have emergency flashers anywhere ?.

and you got a smaller clock because your car got a tic-toc-tach, while your mates is a regular clock.

and 68 consoles gets a ribbed surface and your one is smooth with woodgrain finish
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

jefferson

My key goes in the dash lol

Wonder why its been spray painted/ missing the chrome trim
Let alone why it has a 70 dash
:shruggy:

WHITE AND RED 69

Definitely repainted and they painted over the trim and the lettering. Also looks like your gauges are faded compared to the other one. You'll have to get them replated or get a new one to make it look factory.

Sometimes these cars are pieced together. They all the same size so people throw them in any year to get it on the road.
1969 Dodge Charger R/T
2016 Jeep Grand Cherokee 75th edition
1999 Jeep Grand Cherokee
1972 Plymouth Duster

ACUDANUT

Quote from: jefferson on April 09, 2020, 07:46:00 PM
My key goes in the dash lol

Wonder why its been spray painted/ missing the chrome trim
Let alone why it has a 70 dash
:shruggy:

If your key goes into the dash, Then it's a 68-69 dash, Not a 70.
My 70 interior is all 68. Dash, seats, doors ect.
Nacho, my brother.. Hope all is well!!

jefferson

Thanks fellas,
i assume i dont have to replace the whole dash and gauges, i can just replace the plating with a brand new one that has all the chrome and writing already on it?
i assume it just unscrews and i can screw a new one in place over the dash and switches?
cheers

VegasCharger

Quote from: jefferson on April 10, 2020, 12:46:48 AM
Thanks fellas,
i assume i dont have to replace the whole dash and gauges, i can just replace the plating with a brand new one that has all the chrome and writing already on it?
i assume it just unscrews and i can screw a new one in place over the dash and switches?
cheers

I'll weigh in here. You're on track by saying to get a new plating. By plating I assume you mean a new gauge cluster bezel. As mentioned '68 (and 68 only) had the ribbed design dash bezels (gauge cluster, radio and glove box). Best of the 2nd gens BTW. Anyway remove your cluster bezel (9 screws) and replace with a 68 bezel. You're going to need a 4 way flasher switch. It's positioned just right of the brake warning light. Hopefully the 68 dash harness is still there and not switched over with a 70 harness. Also if your radio bezel and glove box bezel are pebble grain, then you'll need the 68 ribbed ones to match your gauge cluster bezel. Might as well buy a whole new set if that's the case. If no A/C then you'll need the bezel set that includes the 2 end cap plates that are positioned where the AC vents would be IF it were AC.

And if you're going to get serious, eventually switch out the 70 buckets with 68 ones. You should be able to get at least even value if not more for the 70 seats to fund the 68 seats. If it were me, I would remove anything 70 related on your 68 and replace with 68 stuff.

Just my 2¢.

:cheers:

jefferson

Quote from: VegasCharger on April 10, 2020, 01:31:15 AM
Quote from: jefferson on April 10, 2020, 12:46:48 AM
Thanks fellas,
i assume i dont have to replace the whole dash and gauges, i can just replace the plating with a brand new one that has all the chrome and writing already on it?
i assume it just unscrews and i can screw a new one in place over the dash and switches?
cheers

I'll weigh in here. You're on track by saying to get a new plating. By plating I assume you mean a new gauge cluster bezel. As mentioned '68 (and 68 only) had the ribbed design dash bezels (gauge cluster, radio and glove box). Best of the 2nd gens BTW. Anyway remove your cluster bezel (9 screws) and replace with a 68 bezel. You're going to need a 4 way flasher switch. It's positioned just right of the brake warning light. Hopefully the 68 dash harness is still there and not switched over with a 70 harness. Also if your radio bezel and glove box bezel are pebble grain, then you'll need the 68 ribbed ones to match your gauge cluster bezel. Might as well buy a whole new set if that's the case. If no A/C then you'll need the bezel set that includes the 2 end cap plates that are positioned where the AC vents would be IF it were AC.

And if you're going to get serious, eventually switch out the 70 buckets with 68 ones. You should be able to get at least even value if not more for the 70 seats to fund the 68 seats. If it were me, I would remove anything 70 related on your 68 and replace with 68 stuff.

Just my 2¢.

:cheers:

Thanks mate, yep knew i would have to get a flasher switch if i were to put it back to a 68, im not sure yet if ill put everything back to 68, dash, seats, console etc, the dash bezel im going to, the rest i may leave, it doesnt bother me too much, the seats.

i dont need a whole new dash do i? just the plating? like this?
Obv id get a 70 tho not a 68 like pictured. Picture just showing what id be buying. Really dont want to replace the whole dash, gauges, instrument, speedo, tach etc etc.

Maybe further down the line, but for now if i can just replace the dash plating, id be happy.


VegasCharger

Quote from: jefferson on April 10, 2020, 01:49:49 AM.....Obv id get a 70 tho not a 68 like pictured.....

I'm confused, you would get 70 bezels?? You already have 70 bezels. I thought you wanted to switch to 68??

:shruggy:

jefferson

Im saying,. i want my dash in my charger to look the same as my mates charger,
so i assume to do that i have to get a new plating to go over the dash so it has the lettering and chrome trim around the gauges.
Correct?

maybe down the line ill redo the entire thing/ car all back to 68 specs but for now im fine with it having 70 stuff in it,
Just want the dash to look right.

jefferson

Quote from: Nacho-RT74 on April 09, 2020, 12:16:31 PM
BTW not just a 70 cluster but also front buckets. Steering column seems to be 68/69 from the distance?¿?¿?¿? , what it means you don't have emergency flashers anywhere ?.

and you got a smaller clock because your car got a tic-toc-tach, while your mates is a regular clock.

and 68 consoles gets a ribbed surface and your one is smooth with woodgrain finish

hey mate correct, no emergency flashers on my car anywhere, not on the dash nor on the steering column, seems prior owner removed them for some reason, have no idea.
yep correct about the console also, knew this.

what is the difference in steering column on 68 from 70?

jefferson

Is a 70 steering column closer towards the dash, and a 68 is farther away?

68 being longer? 70 being shorter?

Nacho-RT74

Quote from: ACUDANUT on April 09, 2020, 08:29:20 PM
Quote from: jefferson on April 09, 2020, 07:46:00 PM
My key goes in the dash lol

Wonder why its been spray painted/ missing the chrome trim
Let alone why it has a 70 dash
:shruggy:

If your key goes into the dash, Then it's a 68-69 dash, Not a 70.
My 70 interior is all 68. Dash, seats, doors ect.
Nacho, my brother.. Hope all is well!!

well surviving to the lockdown fortunatelly in Spain, where even is true the situation is hard, we are not out of supplies os medical care if needed. If I was in Venezuela I won't be so nice. My family is still there thought!

Quote from: jefferson on April 10, 2020, 12:46:48 AM
Thanks fellas,
i assume i dont have to replace the whole dash and gauges, i can just replace the plating with a brand new one that has all the chrome and writing already on it?
i assume it just unscrews and i can screw a new one in place over the dash and switches?
cheers


you haven't be cleared enough to post the info... where is your ign switch? dash or column ? that would tell you what could be the best to proceed, thinking on as VegasCharger mentioned, what do you still have of the original 68 setup and get it back to 68 if you wish on the best way as posible. Is not just about a bezel, seats or console... its also wiring and dash configuration.

If you still have the ign key on dash it means you still have the original 68 underdash harness. Also it means you don't have hazzard function, which would mean is not just a bezel but also electrical parts.
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

DAY CLONA

Quote from: jefferson on April 10, 2020, 06:07:14 AM
Is a 70 steering column closer towards the dash, and a 68 is farther away?

68 being longer? 70 being shorter?




The 70 Charger has the ignition key on the column, the 68/69 Charger the key is on the lower dash, the 70 steering wheel base where it meets the column is larger in diameter for the standard steering wheel, and the 70 woodgrain steering wheel uses a black plastic adapter to fill the gap, where as the 68-69 steering wheel does not due to it's smaller base diameter

Nacho-RT74

Quote from: jefferson on April 10, 2020, 06:07:14 AM
Is a 70 steering column closer towards the dash, and a 68 is farther away?

68 being longer? 70 being shorter?


jus read this after my reply.

70 column is bigger diameter to fit the ign switch. On this year the turning switch also got the hazzard function built into the system

this came out from an E body, but the same for B body. Note the ign key on column and the knob close to it, for the hazzards



this makes a big diff on harness

here a full view on the 70 dash setup to show the ign switch location difference ( and hazzard knob also on column ). Woodgrain finish was standard on R/Ts and SEs as far I know for 70s while on 69s was Standard just on SEs. So this 70 must be either an R/T or and SE

Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

Nacho-RT74

Quote from: jefferson on April 10, 2020, 01:49:49 AM
Quote from: VegasCharger on April 10, 2020, 01:31:15 AM
Quote from: jefferson on April 10, 2020, 12:46:48 AM
Thanks fellas,
i assume i dont have to replace the whole dash and gauges, i can just replace the plating with a brand new one that has all the chrome and writing already on it?
i assume it just unscrews and i can screw a new one in place over the dash and switches?
cheers

I'll weigh in here. You're on track by saying to get a new plating. By plating I assume you mean a new gauge cluster bezel. As mentioned '68 (and 68 only) had the ribbed design dash bezels (gauge cluster, radio and glove box). Best of the 2nd gens BTW. Anyway remove your cluster bezel (9 screws) and replace with a 68 bezel. You're going to need a 4 way flasher switch. It's positioned just right of the brake warning light. Hopefully the 68 dash harness is still there and not switched over with a 70 harness. Also if your radio bezel and glove box bezel are pebble grain, then you'll need the 68 ribbed ones to match your gauge cluster bezel. Might as well buy a whole new set if that's the case. If no A/C then you'll need the bezel set that includes the 2 end cap plates that are positioned where the AC vents would be IF it were AC.

And if you're going to get serious, eventually switch out the 70 buckets with 68 ones. You should be able to get at least even value if not more for the 70 seats to fund the 68 seats. If it were me, I would remove anything 70 related on your 68 and replace with 68 stuff.

Just my 2¢.

:cheers:

Thanks mate, yep knew i would have to get a flasher switch if i were to put it back to a 68, im not sure yet if ill put everything back to 68, dash, seats, console etc, the dash bezel im going to, the rest i may leave, it doesnt bother me too much, the seats.

i dont need a whole new dash do i? just the plating? like this?
Obv id get a 70 tho not a 68 like pictured. Picture just showing what id be buying. Really dont want to replace the whole dash, gauges, instrument, speedo, tach etc etc.

Maybe further down the line, but for now if i can just replace the dash plating, id be happy.



I think you should need just the 4 ways flasher for 68/69 Rallye cluster and the correct bezel for 68. The plug for the switch must be still hanging around if the harness wasn't replaced or jacked out. I can't say if the cluster housing would need to be replaced or not, but I don't think 70s are diff from 68/69 on this... better minds on 2nd gens chargers around than me. Gauges ( Speedo, tachs etc ) are the same you actually have at this moment for all 2nd gens, so don't need to get worried about that.

I can't find it hard to get the correct cluster setup for a 68 as far harness remains safe. Is just about to get the parts but the job itself won't be hard. Mostly plug and play.

Buckets is at your prefference for correctness or not, but not necesary at this moment anyway. And I'd get also the correct ribbed top plate look for the 68 console ( which inludes the glove box lid ) to match the dash bezel for 68 and is also available around, new repro just like the cluster bezel and sure can be foun used too. That's my opinion. Mostly same opinion than VegasCharger
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

Nacho-RT74

BTW I can see your glove box knob release is on the correct 68/69 location. Note how is on the 70 pic I posted, so you still have most of the correct 68 setup of your car
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

Nacho-RT74

68 console and seats look... and thumbwheel radio for 68/69




as mentioned the A/C-Heater controls also are labeled diff between 68 with a bezel and 69/70 straight to the buttons

Dash pad itself also got a small difference between 68 and I think 69/70, being 68 a bit more sharpened V shaped. It seems your car still have those correct 68 parts anyway.
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

jefferson

Thanks a lot nacho

yes that looks exactly the same as my setup, besides the bucket seats and the style of dash,

the glovebox, ash tray, steering column is all 68 on my car
the glovebox opens upwards, 70 i believe it opens downwards. Mine opens upwards, my IGN switch is in the dash, not the steering column.
so i have 80 percent proper 68 on the inside lol. My only difference to that photo of the 68 you have posted is the seats and the dash. The other half of the dash is all 68 on mine.



jefferson

Anyone have an idea or thoughts as to why the previous owner, or the owner before him or whom ever, decided it was a good idea to completely spray paint over the chrome and lettering with stupid shitty black spray paint?
Ill ask that question first before i start asking as to why he also replaced the face plating and removed the flasher button and put a 70 in it, glad it still retains the other half,
ign on the dash not on the column
glovebox and ash tray correct.
steering column correct.

just blows my mind.

jefferson

Also,

are my gauges, oil, alt, speedo, tach, fuel, the original ones? the gauges are pretty faded, has a fair bit of wear and shows a fair amount of milage.
But it could have been pulled out of another 70 charger at some point in the past, am not sure. And its just the plating that has been put over the gauges that is from a 70?


Nacho-RT74

well I think you got the answer on how to proceed. If I was you would make the cluster/dash job to make the correct 68 look there. The hazzard switch plug must be still there hanging around, so it should be mostly a plug and play job just getting the parts.

Then the seats and console top... as you preffer. I would make at least the correct console top look, althought I like more the woodgrain finish.

gauges face fading, pretty much normal. Face decals are available to the resto job. Are they the original ones ? we don't know, and imposible to know being they are the same for all 2nd gens. If the cluster was changed as an unit, maybe the gauges itself are from the same 70 it came the rest of 70 parts. But actually, who cares now ? Cluster on back uses to get codes to the manufacturing date thought. This does mean also the gauges ? actually, no.
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

Nacho-RT74

looking at this 70 cluster on back, the provision for the hazzard switch is still there, so... is just about to get the hazzard switch and bezel, get it plugged ( it should be hanging around there yet ) and voilá... once again assuming wirning has not being cut or damaged around for it. It won't be important if the cluster is from the 70 donor, will be just the printed code date what will make the difference.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-Dodge-Charger-Road-Runner-GTX-Cluster-Mopar-Rallye-Instrument-Gauge-White-/273946336183

It even still has the provision for the rear deffog switch which on 68 is on cluster ( 69/70 got them at a side of the A/C control unit ). So just the bezel will make the difference

will need to get the 68 bezel setup with the cover for that hole of course ( the hole at a side of the speedo )

NOTE: I think hazzard switch is diff between Rallye cluster and standard cluster. NOT sure thought.

and... your cluster must still have the 68/69 headlight switch being your car got vacuum operated headlight doors while 70s are electrical
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html


HANDM

I'm probably in the minority here but for the chrome around my gauges I simply used a chrome paint pen from a hobby shop and re did my accents as they were pretty much worn off from 50 yrs of use and washing.
Turned out great and a better alternative to tearing out the cluster and panels to replace them.

And if you do decide to replace rather than using the pen, they are attached via screws from the backside of the cluster and dash so you'd have to remove them anyway. Not an easy job as the column has to be loosened and lowered to get the cluster out.

VegasCharger

Nacho pretty much sums it up. Get a 68 gauge cluster bezel so it has the cutout for the flasher switch. Also get a 68-69 flasher switch and hope the PO didn't mess up the plug (and just hanging there). Screw the new switch on the gauge housing, plug it in and test.

If you're not concerned with having 4 way flashers (I would be) you can leave it be. Or you can attempt to rig a toggle switch mounted within reach when sitting in the driver's seat to have flashers and avoiding switching out bezels.

And as for the lowering the steering column being a tough job, I disagree. Disconnect the battery, unbolt the 4 firewall bolts and unbolt the 2 collar bolts. Use a small jack stand placed on your foot well floorboard to position how low you need the column to drop. Place a cloth/towel on top of the jack stand to avoid scratching the paint on the column. Just my 2¢.

:cheers:


Nacho-RT74

yeap, that's why I search by pn and description and not just by description
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

darbgnik

His linked picture:


Brad

1970 Charger 500. Born a 318, AC, console auto, now 440/727
Build thread:  http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,127291.0.html

375instroke

Anyone mention that the foam pieces of the glove box, around the AC vents, and below the gauges, are hard plastic in '70?

Nacho-RT74

Nobody mentioned, but since he already mentioned ign switch is on dash and glovebox got the latch where it is, those details by itself states he still have the 68 pieces on his car, with the soft pads.
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

jefferson

Quote from: 375instroke on April 11, 2020, 03:20:40 AM
Anyone mention that the foam pieces of the glove box, around the AC vents, and below the gauges, are hard plastic in '70?

never realised this actually

but mine appear to be quite soft, while sitting in my mates 70 i did infact look at his and they looked hard
i assume that means mine are proper 68 then?

Nacho, does it appear then most of my stuff is still 68 correct? , ash tray, glovebox, all the small bits and pieces etc ?

Nacho-RT74

Since doesn't exist hard trim ( plastic ) with ignition switch on dash, there was not a chance to think it could be a 70 plastic setup so just 68 soft trim. 69 is soft trim too, but also diff from 68... bigger ignition switch and more rounded dash pad edge, like 70.

From the distance I just can say you need what already was mentioned... just the dash bezel setup and hazzard switch.

Then optionally the console top for correctness ( which is available repro too same as the dash bezels ) and seats.
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

jefferson

Thanks brother
Its amazing the small differences in the years i had no idea about

Even your mention of 69 from a 68 was a minor difference in the dash

Pretty amazing

VegasCharger

Quote from: jefferson on April 11, 2020, 08:02:08 AM.....most of my stuff is still 68 correct? , ash tray, glovebox, all the small bits and pieces etc ?.....

Another tid bit, you definitely have the 68 (68 only) ash tray. Slider type (see red arrow in pic). Late 68 models and 69s/70s received the pull down style ash tray. 70 ash tray wouldn't have the padding on them.

:cheers:

Mytur Binsdirti

Quote from: VegasCharger on April 12, 2020, 02:53:47 AM


Another tid bit, you definitely have the 68 (68 only) ash tray. Slider type (see red arrow in pic). Late 68 models and 69s/70s received the pull down style ash tray. 70 ash tray wouldn't have the padding on them.






jefferson

Thanks a lot vegas charger
Am reaally impressed and intruged at these small details
Yer i have to slide the ash tray down with a bit of force sometimes. Careful not to break it but does seem to get a bit stiff.

Did not realise 69 or 70s were pull down and not slide.
Trying to picture the difference in my head between slide and pull down
As they both go downwards  haha. But i think i have it 😁

jefferson

Anything else u fellas can pick up?
The. Padding  the glove box. The ash tray are all correct
The heater controls correct? On 70 they look like black push down buttons.

I know the console is not correct
The chrome around the pedals im sure wasnt aval in 68? But mine has it

Please if anything else . Please point it out.  Will only give me things to work on over the next few months
Cheers fellas

Nacho-RT74

I think the change for the ashtray was because the shifter didn't allow to slide it out comfortably it when in parking, so they took care about that on laters.

Heater control labeling bezel is correct. As already mentioned 68 got bezel for label the buttons, while 69/70 are labelled on buttons itself ( no extra bezel on top )
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

69 500


jefferson

Thanks guys
Was the chrome trim an option in 68 on the pedals?

VegasCharger

Quote from: jefferson on April 12, 2020, 05:18:18 AM
Thanks a lot vegas charger you're welcome :2thumbs:
.....i have to slide the ash tray down with a bit of force sometimes.....WD40 is your friend.

Quote from: jefferson on April 12, 2020, 04:38:21 PM.....Was the chrome trim an option in 68 on the pedals?.....Don't think so. :cheers:

JB400

Chrome pedal dress up was a 69 SE option. Do not know if it is a separate option