Most interesting optioned second Generation you have seen

[Chad L. Magee]

1968 XP29 with 61, 3 (column shift) in PP1, C6V, Y7 with A1, T7, R1

got a pic of this one?
61 = 383 2bbl engine
3 = 4-speed manual transmission (floor mounted ONLY)

Aahh crap, I meant to say floor mounted 4-speed manual on that one.  That is the rolled one that I got up in SD years ago.  Good catch!...

[XH29N0G]

I'll ask my dad, but the more I think about it I am pretty sure he considered the 383 as 'hemi delete'.  

[XS29LA47V21]

Kern Dog...it didn't come with an F***ing vinyl top.  Is that better?  Your comment about a 318 car is "Hemi delete", is not the same.  There were obviously more engine choices than just the two (318 or hemi).  Vinyl top...you either got it, or you didn't.  

No, YOU are not getting it.
You cannot delete something that is an optional piece of equipment. A red car is not "Black Delete". Is a car with a heater only A/C delete? Is a XP car 440 delete? No.

Semantics in opinions it seems.  There is a lot that really is not known or documented in the cars we love here. Too bad.  I have had a fair amount of 69s in the past 35yrs and have opinions.  They are mine.  I do not care if it was a cost option or standard option to delete or order in context or whatever here.  Some standard cost options came on "ALL" chargers are fairly well known.  They are shown on the bottom two or three lines of a fender tag obviously generally speaking.  All I am saying is some options could be deleted (or not ordered if you rather, omitted from) for example radios, vinyl tops and perhaps others to discuss on a different thread.  That said, I do believe all Chargers would typically have a vinyl top and just like all would have an AM radio, unless someone purposely ordered it without, either by special ordered car or dealer ordered it that way (unlikely).  Could you delete the wheel options, belt restraints in late 69 or headrests optioned in late 69 shown as costs as recall.  I do not think so.  No documentation here, we do not know, but I think the number of original vinyl top delete (omitted) Chargers are extremely rare, under 1000 cars or even perhaps under 500 cars in 69 and certainly less than the number of Super birds produced for sure...  

Can we get the thread back on topic for fun interesting car stories?

Lee 3 V21s in one area is wild.  Your part of the country has had a long strong mopar crowd so maybe that is why.  Wonder what the darkest colored V21 car might be.  I recall a gold, R4s, F6s, B5s and wasn't there a 999 orange V21 out there or on forum here.  More V21s on F6 than other colors it seems.  Wish we knew number of V21 cars...

[LeesRT]

I have this article from the 1990s.  It was a Galen article on V21 options.  Here's where I've gotten some of my numbers.

[Kern Dog]

I like hearing about oddly optioned cars.  Slant six cars with rubber floor mats and an AM/FM 8 track ? I'd love to see one. My BIL has a 72 Duster that was originally built as a slant 6, 3 on the tree with A/C. Huh ?
My own '70 XH Charger is a 383 2 barrel model with a bench seat while my '70 XP was a 318 with bucket seats. Both had vinyl tops. I refused to put one back on my red XP and the XH won't get one again either.
Regarding the use of the word delete....I do take things literally because I think that either you make accurate statements or you sound ignorant like the idiots that we all run into at car shows. I seem to recall that the "bumblebee" stripes could be deleted. Radios? Not sure but I've heard that they could but what if even the lowly AM radio was not standard equipment? If it was an extra cost option and if the box wasn't checked, the car technically would not be "Radio delete" because you had to pay extra to get it.
This is a curious topic though. I've heard of heater delete but the only car that I have seen that looks to have been built this way was a Red A body that looked like a Dodge Dart Demon built in Mexico and parked in the show at the Van Nuys Spring Fling show. It had block off plates for both the radio and the heater. The '68 SS Dart and Barracuda models were built without radios and heaters as well as having some other special parts but what about regular production cars? Did any cars shipped to the hot southern states ever get heater delete? The A/C systems had a heater integrated so it was impossible to get A/C without a heater.
I recall seeing REAR shoulder belts mentioned as options for some second gen Chargers but I have never seen one in person.
I've only seen ONE Charger with a sunroof.

[XH29N0G]

Strangely enough Radios could be deleted. Or not included.  I only learned of the radio delete because of the 'radio delete' plate that mine had.  But I think my dad just considered he ordered it without a radio, rather than radio delete.  I think it just went with time and I remember my mom's dad who moved in with us saying that real cars didn't have radios - at the time he was talking about a DB4 he used to own and said the radio just interfered with the engine sounds.  I think for him, it was probably a certain amount of dollars and he figured that added up.  He was frugal.


And what did we do without a radio - something called conversations, or being in trouble.... ...happened in the car - and singing   - Where is the little small person emoji? I remember singing 'Hiegh Ho, Heigh Ho, Its off to school we go....' on some cold winter mornings with my two sisters and dad stuffed in the car.  I think he preferred that over the radio.  I know he preferred that over arguments that a 4 yr. old, 6 year old, and 9 year old could get into.  Fortunately, his arms were only so long and I managed to avoid his reach at least once.

I smile at the listing of option codes because in my old age I have forgotten and this gives me the enjoyment (truly - no jest) of going to the registries to look them up and see what on earth an M21 and M31 are.  Is anyone aware of any of those being deleted?  

[69CoronetRT]

Words matter.

You can't twist concepts and meanings to fit your thinking or memories.

You can't "delete" something that wasn't standard.

Radios and vinyl tops were not standard. They were optional. You had to pay extra above the standard price of the car to get them.

The documentation on this is pretty extensive.

[69 OUR/TEA]

My 69 RT/SE 3x9 has a pretty fair amount of options , A/C / PDB / AMFM / six way seat / tinted glass  / PW / Tach / rear defogger / rocker moldings / headrests ( early car ) / 3 spd wipers , but is auto on column w buddy seat , so I often wonder why choosing all the options that the car has , and yet not get a console ?

[69CoronetRT]

My 69 RT/SE 3x9 has a pretty fair amount of options , A/C / PDB / AMFM / six way seat / tinted glass  / PW / Tach / rear defogger / rocker moldings / headrests ( early car ) / 3 spd wipers , but is auto on column w buddy seat , so I often wonder why choosing all the options that the car has , and yet not get a console ?

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Because you have a girlfriend....

Do people not remember the days of bench seats and before mandatory seatbelts when your girlfriend sat next to you? You can do that with a buddy seat.  You can't do that with a console.

[Ghoste]

Yep, that added expense to keep girls away just didn't make sense in a car you bought for it's peacock factor.

[RallyeMike]

The unrestored 69 500 SE I saw locally last year: White + saddle leather interior + dealer-installed Bee-leaver package. This car was really fun to look over. It is certainly a unique car. I am still in love with it  

[tan top]

 this is a good thread love reading about this kind of stuff  

I find it interesting to see what our second generation chargers were optioned with & especially the tri color combinations ! also what I tend to forget  they were mainly normal people  men women wives husbands moms dads aunties uncles sisters brothers etc  ordering a car to drive A to B  family cars etc , not all buyers were car guys  

every one has different tastes ! &  way back when our cars were new  tastes were different  to say the least imo   look how many green  cars  were built, nothing wrong with those colors ! I love all the factory colors  on second generations & if I had the dough would have one of each color    having said I like them all it was crazy times  who would have ordered  mine for example yellow paint black interior &  a tan top no wonder it took so long to sell 7 months from the SPD. also an R/T SE with  manual  drums,  manual windows,  two speed wipers, no wonder I've not seen / heard of another, ( although have seen a tag of a yellow  paint tan interior & black top 69  ! close  )  normally I expect to see a R/T SE  fully loaded with all or most options  
anyways  cant find it at the minute but there was a 69 charger R/TSE forsale few years ago & it was gold, green interior, white top stripe delete & was ordered with only one headrest . also was reading over on moparts  a long time ago an unusual color  combination thread a Y2 69 hemi charger that was coded for red interior, think it was seen & or decoded  by a pretty reliable / known  member over there .  ive searched for it a couple of times  to send the link to Ghoste , but unable to find it.

  thought there was a pretty unusual 68 on ebay the other week  XX1 paint  with green interior .
           another odd thing ive seen a few of !  & i'm sure many have seen too ! is a  original  440 &  Hemi four speed  R/T chargers  with just a clock  !  no tic toc tach ...

[6bblgt]

1968-'69 the clock was STANDARD - the tachometer w/clock was an OPTION ~$50

[Nacho-RT74]

a vinyl top was NOT STANDARD on any 1968-'70 Charger

a vinyl top was an extra cost OPTION on second generation Chargers
$85.90 in '68
$93.55 in '69
100.00 in '70

there were NO "packages" that included the vinyl top, it was included with the purchase of a "power operated SUNROOF" 1969-'70

Except WHITE HAT SPECIALS? And SEs?

[Back alley performance]

How about a 68 Charger with F8 interior and QQ1  paint???  from the factory!???

OR

How many numbers matching 68 Charger RT's 440,4sp, dana 60's are out there with AA1 paint?  Not to many were painted silver from what Ive learned in my 16 years of ownership!  zero option car other then the am radio.  that's it!  no console, no power steering or brakes!

[6bblgt]

a vinyl top was NOT STANDARD on any 1968-'70 Charger

a vinyl top was an extra cost OPTION on second generation Chargers
$85.90 in '68
$93.55 in '69
100.00 in '70

there were NO "packages" that included the vinyl top, it was included with the purchase of a "power operated SUNROOF" 1969-'70

Except WHITE HAT SPECIALS? And SEs?

NO STANDARD vinyl top on a '69-'70 SE

& I edited the above post to cover the "white hat specials" - was there a similar package for '68 or '70?

[6bblgt]

How about a 68 Charger with F8 interior and QQ1  paint???  from the factory!???
..........

there is NO F8 interior for '68, there is "green" - do you have pics of this "bright blue metallic" (QQ1) Charger with "green" interior (C6F)? or a fender tag pic?

there is a '67 Fury in a local junkyard that is "light green metallic" with a "turquoise" interior  I'll see if I can find the pics

[tan top]

1968-'69 the clock was STANDARD - the tachometer w/clock was an OPTION ~$50

that's a lot  think thats more than B51 power brakes 

  see everyone  has different tastes , if  I was ordering a hemi or 440 four speed new , N85  would of been the next option to tick.  even if it was a auto . surly someone spending that kind of dough on a new Hemi or 440 four speed Charger R/T   would not be trying to save money 

  wonder how much an aftermarket  sun / stewart warner etc   tachometer was at the time .

[68RT440]

We don't have the build sheet for our car, but I think that the color combo is kind of unique. 68 Charger R/T, black with green vinyl top and green interior with white bumblebee stripe. The car was ordered with manual drum brakes, manual steering, sure grip 3.23s and buddy seat. Supposedly the original owner bought it as a family car and even pulled a small boat with it...not sure why you would want to do that with manual steering and brakes

[1968Fever]

How about this 68 RT that is currently for sale?...RR1 Burgundy with a C6B blue interior originally.  The interior is black now but you can see from the fender tag it was blue.  The seller had also told me you can still see traces of the original blue.

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/cars-for-sale/dodge/charger-r-t/2356236.html#&gid=1&pid=30

[Nacho-RT74]

a vinyl top was NOT STANDARD on any 1968-'70 Charger

a vinyl top was an extra cost OPTION on second generation Chargers
$85.90 in '68
$93.55 in '69
100.00 in '70

there were NO "packages" that included the vinyl top, it was included with the purchase of a "power operated SUNROOF" 1969-'70

Except WHITE HAT SPECIALS? And SEs?

NO STANDARD vinyl top on a '69-'70 SE

& I edited the above post to cover the "white hat specials" - was there a similar package for '68 or '70?

stand up corrected! I thought it was on SEs.

white hat special... Coronets 68 at least yes... can't tell Chargers



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvLbmaVXfYI

[Nacho-RT74]

and 67 Coronet too:

[XS29LA47V21]

How about this 68 RT that is currently for sale?...RR1 Burgundy with a C6B blue interior originally.  The interior is black now but you can see from the fender tag it was blue.  The seller had also told me you can still see traces of the original blue.

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/cars-for-sale/dodge/charger-r-t/2356236.html#&gid=1&pid=30

Pretty 68, great outside color...

Wow, that is odd, almost cumbersome.  Wonder what someone was smoking that day they ordered it....?

I particularly like to see blue interior on non blue cars like the X9 RTSE on the Random RTSE thread and seldom seen many photos the 69 A4 500 with blue interior hemi car.

[XS29LA47V21]

My 69 RT/SE 3x9 has a pretty fair amount of options , A/C / PDB / AMFM / six way seat / tinted glass  / PW / Tach / rear defogger / rocker moldings / headrests ( early car ) / 3 spd wipers , but is auto on column w buddy seat , so I often wonder why choosing all the options that the car has , and yet not get a console ?

As you recall our cars are pretty similar... so that make both our cars interesting...
(Mine being 3x9RTSE, AC,PDB,FM, 6way, cruz, PW

[MoPaR 312]

Not the most interesting Charger I have seen but I have one that is pretty well optioned in my opinion...

69 RT 440 auto
-R6 red exterior and interior (thats a lot of red but I haven't seen many like that)
-Black vinyl top and black stripe
-Power Disc Brakes
-Air conditioning
-Cruise Control
-Power Windows
-AM/8 Track

Also has rear defroster and 6 way seat