News:

It appears that the upgrade forces a login and many, many of you have forgotten your passwords and didn't set up any reminders. Contact me directly through helpmelogin@dodgecharger.com and I'll help sort it out.

Main Menu

Small rubber bumpers between gas tank and trunk floor

Started by Finoke, December 10, 2019, 06:06:09 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

Finoke

Are the small rubber bumpers that go between gas tank and trunk floor brace available new? I seem to have lost one.

Thx
Tom


Nacho-RT74

Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html


kent

I don't remember seeing anything like that when I took mine apart Tom. Where exactly were they? Which trunk floor brace?
Kent

Alaskan_TA


70gtx440dana

I don't recognize it as a 70 Charger part either.  :shruggy:
70 Road Runner FJ5 383-4speed Air Grabber
70 GTX FE5 440-4speed Dana 3.54
70 Charger R/T FJ5 440-4peed Dana 3.54

kent

Well I'll be damned. I never had one on mine. 23000 miler.

Thanks for the info Alaskan_TA
Kent

Alaskan_TA

There is one on each side of the tank & they help locate its position for installation, so they can be seen with the tank installed.




green69rt

Must be 70 and later,not on my 69.  Never seen them repro but was not looking either. :shruggy:

Finoke

HI Guys, I'm told by a reputable source that a 1970 Charger only gets one. Thats all I had when I dropped the tank. I confirmed by looking at the passenger side and did not find a screw hole. But there is one on the drivers side. Tom

Finoke

Also, I've had a bunch of cars over the years. I do remember having a B body with these blocks on both side. I just can't remember which one LOL>

Edit... I looked at some pictures of my 70 RR resto and that had blocks on both sides.

70gtx440dana

Interested to hear about the use of these bumpers on 70 B bodies. If they are used on 70 Charger...I will need the details.   Joe
70 Road Runner FJ5 383-4speed Air Grabber
70 GTX FE5 440-4speed Dana 3.54
70 Charger R/T FJ5 440-4peed Dana 3.54

tan top

 i'm far from an expert ! but think its only a 70 thing as Alasken _TA  mentions above 
unless it varies from assembly plant & or trunk floor brace suppliers

all the 68s & 69s I've seen!  the gas tank location tab thing is actually metal & is spot welded on &  part of the trunk floor support , see first picture !  second pictures is of a unrestored 70 charger. cant say that ive ever looked & or studied  that area on a 70 b-body enough  & this was / is  the first time ive heard about this till now . :shruggy:

3rd picture ! AMD lists the same one for all 3 years
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

Finoke


70 sublime

70 Charger has a big square metal brace on the passenger side between the gas tank and the frame rail also that earlier Chargers do not have
Looks like something to help keep the tank from sliding over and pulling the filler neck out of the other side
next project 70 Charger FJ5 green

tan top

Quote from: 70 sublime on December 12, 2019, 06:12:31 AM
70 Charger has a big square metal brace on the passenger side between the gas tank and the frame rail also that earlier Chargers do not have
Looks like something to help keep the tank from sliding over and pulling the filler neck out of the other side

:yesnod: :2thumbs:
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

kent

Well the more I thought about this the more I wasn't sure. I should of just kept my mouth shut if I didn't know for sure. But I ASS u ME ed I was correct about my car not having them.
Sooooo I went back and looked at my pictures from 2003. Looky looky! From my untouched 23000 miler. Well now I have to go rummaging through my rubber boxes where I kept all the old plugs hoses and belts.



Kent

kent

Quote from: 70 sublime on December 12, 2019, 06:12:31 AM
70 Charger has a big square metal brace on the passenger side between the gas tank and the frame rail also that earlier Chargers do not have
Looks like something to help keep the tank from sliding over and pulling the filler neck out of the other side

Yeah I forgot about that one too. I had that part and couldn't figure out what it was for and where it went. I did a thread about that over at the 70 Registry.

Great to be getting old! By the time the car is finished I wont remember how to get in!!!

Kent

70gtx440dana

I hope there is a source for these. Looks like I am needing a pair for my 70 Charger.
70 Road Runner FJ5 383-4speed Air Grabber
70 GTX FE5 440-4speed Dana 3.54
70 Charger R/T FJ5 440-4peed Dana 3.54

kent

^^^^NICE! :2thumbs:

I'm thinking the same thing. Or I might make something up if I can find my old ones out of a practice puck. Maybe throw some dimensions on the one you have Finoke. I see it's attached with a hex screw.
Kent

70gtx440dana

Quote from: kent on December 12, 2019, 11:53:52 AM
^^^^NICE! :2thumbs:

I'm thinking the same thing. Or I might make something up if I can find my old ones out of a practice puck. Maybe throw some dimensions on the one you have Finoke. I see it's attached with a hex screw.

The dims would be great.....also a couple photos of the attaching screw.
70 Road Runner FJ5 383-4speed Air Grabber
70 GTX FE5 440-4speed Dana 3.54
70 Charger R/T FJ5 440-4peed Dana 3.54

70 sublime

Nice picture of a green car  :2thumbs:

Looks like the gas tank brace that goes across the middle of the tank on the bottom of trunk floor does not have a bump on either end to help keep the tank centered on a 70
next project 70 Charger FJ5 green

70gtx440dana

I do not see these rubber pieces called out in the 70-71 parts catalog. I was hoping to find a part number. No luck yet.
70 Road Runner FJ5 383-4speed Air Grabber
70 GTX FE5 440-4speed Dana 3.54
70 Charger R/T FJ5 440-4peed Dana 3.54

70gtx440dana

Quote from: 70 sublime on December 12, 2019, 01:37:46 PM
Nice picture of a green car  :2thumbs:

Looks like the gas tank brace that goes across the middle of the tank on the bottom of trunk floor does not have a bump on either end to help keep the tank centered on a 70

Correct.....flat brace. You can also see the two holes for these rubber pieces to attach.
70 Road Runner FJ5 383-4speed Air Grabber
70 GTX FE5 440-4speed Dana 3.54
70 Charger R/T FJ5 440-4peed Dana 3.54

kent

Yep flat brace only on the 70 Charger
Kent

Alaskan_TA

Quote from: kent on December 12, 2019, 03:09:57 PM
Yep flat brace only on the 70 Charger

Well........

Only on all 1970 B-bodies with the possible exception of station wagons.

My 1970 Coronet & Sport Satellite use the same brace as the Charger & others.

kent

I guess I should have worded that differently Alaskan_TA.  Meaning flat brace only on the 70 Charger. No raised indents or out dents?? lol

Going to see if I can find those bumpers this evening once the wife goes to work.
Kent

70gtx440dana

Curious to get more knowledge about these rubber bumpers. I just looked under my 70 road runner which was built at the LA plant. It has the complete original fuel system. And guess what? The tank brace has no rubber bumpers or holes in the brace for them. The brace is flat as discussed above. I am wondering if these bumpers were used plant specific or model specific. My 70 Charger brace has the holes......so I assume it likely had the bumpers at one time. Looking forward to learning more on this topic.   Joe
70 Road Runner FJ5 383-4speed Air Grabber
70 GTX FE5 440-4speed Dana 3.54
70 Charger R/T FJ5 440-4peed Dana 3.54

Alaskan_TA

My 1970 Coronet & 1970 Sport Satellite have the 'flat' brace as mentioned above.

Both are 1970 St.Louis cars - just like all the 1970 Chargers were.

The Coronet has the rubber blocks while the Sport Satellite has the holes for the screws, but no rubber blocks.

Original undercoating car, so they were not there when new on the Sport Satellite.

kent

Got them. Right under my nose. Glad I marked every things from years ago. 2003!!! Time to put her together.
Just resizing and down loading pictures with measurements. Oh yeah if you have to make some maybe more of a normal hockey puck.

I'll be back in a few.
Kent

kent

Ok I know it's only a little block of rubber but it's our block of rubber! lol :icon_smile_big:

Here's seven pictures from every angle with measurements. It's all I got.

Kent

70gtx440dana

Quote from: kent on December 12, 2019, 05:46:10 PM
Ok I know it's only a little block of rubber but it's our block of rubber! lol :icon_smile_big:

Here's seven pictures from every angle with measurements. It's all I got.



Awesome photos.....any chance to get a depth on that counter bore?  I am going to have James Filmore at DMT look at making these.
70 Road Runner FJ5 383-4speed Air Grabber
70 GTX FE5 440-4speed Dana 3.54
70 Charger R/T FJ5 440-4peed Dana 3.54

kent

Oops. Forgot that one. I'm on it. It's still on the kitchen table. Give me a couple.
Kent

kent

You what they say... it's not who I know it's who you know! lol Should be real easy to reproduce. Minus the part# A little Penstar would be nice though.
Look how that undercoating protected that thing. I washed it off when I put it away 16 years ago.
There's that's the last dimension. I think??

Oh I forgot to add those numbers are pretty dam close. Give or take a thous.
Kent

tan top

 

just out of curiosity . is that a part number I can just about make out   in  Kent's  pictures ?  :scratchchin:

had a look in the 70 -71  parts manual , cant see anything  :shruggy:
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

kent

Well that's what I thought it was. What numbers are you seeing TT?

I see=2811861992018-2


You know ma. She just put that there to drive the kids nuts. :yesnod:
Kent

tan top

Quote from: kent on December 13, 2019, 08:51:31 AM
Well that's what I thought it was. What numbers are you seeing TT?

I see=2811861992018-2


You know ma. She just put that there to drive the kids nuts. :yesnod:

well I was  trying to see the  number next to the pentastar  & was looking like 2811861,  I know or don't know  or remember or i'm confusing this with something else !   that the numbers on the parts was not necessarily / not  the dealer/ factory part reference number ,  but was hopping that number may well have showed up  some where  :shruggy:
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

Alaskan_TA

This may help?

2811861 is the seven digit part number.

99201 is the five digit vendor code.


70gtx440dana

Quote from: Alaskan_TA on December 13, 2019, 09:37:46 AM
This may help?

2811861 is the seven digit part number.

99201 is the five digit vendor code.



2811861 is not in the 70-71 parts catalog. I also struck out on a google search. This part and it's usage seems very obscure. Would love to know the screw part number as well.
70 Road Runner FJ5 383-4speed Air Grabber
70 GTX FE5 440-4speed Dana 3.54
70 Charger R/T FJ5 440-4peed Dana 3.54

tan top

Quote from: Alaskan_TA on December 13, 2019, 09:37:46 AM
This may help?

2811861 is the seven digit part number.

99201 is the five digit vendor code.



:cheers:

think ive found it ! its in the 69 parts book ! not got time at moment to search for a picture diagram etc , heres a screen capture , if no one else investigates it further ! will have a look later tonight or over the weekend 
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

Alaskan_TA

My 1970-71 part book has it listed for R W (Belvedere & Coronet) and AR (use As Required for 6-passenger station wagons.

Interesting because my '70 Coronet has them, my '70 Belvedere does not but my former '70 Charger did have them.  :scratchchin:


70gtx440dana

Thanks Barry!  I have now located it in my parts book as well. Hopefully I can find a pair of these soon.
70 Road Runner FJ5 383-4speed Air Grabber
70 GTX FE5 440-4speed Dana 3.54
70 Charger R/T FJ5 440-4peed Dana 3.54