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Sanden A/C pump not fitting 440 with an aluminum WP housing?

Started by Kern Dog, August 29, 2019, 11:09:23 PM

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Kern Dog

Condensor lines through the core support and secured on the LH fender apron.

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green69rt

Thanks Kern Dog, I'm also using a Classic air system.  I have the interior stuff installed but nothing on the engine bay side.  Your pics will be a great help.

will

I have another compressor coming Friday because I'm going with the sd concepts serpentine setup. I might not get to it soon, but I think that compressor comes apart. I did think about changing the position of the hose connections when I put it in, but I didn't want to throw another $300 at it at the time if I was mistaken. I did get my compressor to sit on the engine 'square'. I just don't use the factory temp sender.

will

Here's my current setup. This is on a 383, so I'm not certain if this will work in your situation.

will

I will post on here when I take that compressor apart to see if it's possible to clock the hose connections. I think it should work, the four bolts on the back are symmetrical. I just don't know the configuration of the internals.


Kern Dog

Thank you, Will.
The pulley setup you have there looks like what is used when the stock non A/C pulleys are used.

Kern Dog

Quote from: Kern Dog on September 01, 2019, 11:58:12 PM
The taller brackets to raise the mounting point of the compressor are due in about Thursday. By then I'll certainly be ready. I have the condenser and lines in, the trans cooler is back in place, the heater hoses are routed and secured and not much remains. I'll need to find someone locally that can crimp the lines.

The brackets are STILL not here. Bouchillon blamed the delay on the Hurricane.
In the meantime, I've been looking at how to reroute the liquid line. The kit routes it from the condenser to behind the battery, across the engine, then back to the drier near the firewall. To me, that looks cluttered and too busy.
The liquid line is the bottom fitting on the condenser. Instead of their way, I'm going to route it up then over the hood latch support, toward the passenger side, over the core support then back to the drier.
Now the task is finding a way to do that. I made a drawing:

Kern Dog

The main problem with the setup in the drawing is that there are a lot of crimp connectors, each with a chance to leak. Ideally, I'd have one continuous hard line. With measuring tape in hand, I found the following:
A 48" hard line starting at the drier, sitting on the apron, bent to go up and over the core support, turned toward the drivers side would be the hardest part. A 30" hard line starting at the bottom condenser fitting, turning 90 degrees UP along side the side of the condenser, then bent 90 degrees again to point to the passenger side....I could then fill the gap with a section of rubber soft line.

b5blue

I see what you are trying to do but aren't the horns going to be in the way? It is "busy" in the engine bay when done but they routed all this to fit with factory holes for several models. What ran/radiator setup are you using? I had to add a pusher to my stock fixed fan/26 radiator just for long periods of @ idle.

Kern Dog

My horns don't sit in the stock location.


will

I have the new compressor, when I get a chance I'll take a picture of it mounted to the serpentine setup. Hopefully I can get the hoses around the distributor, I'm going to have to order hose fittings and such to route everything. That is one advantage of having a 'down' season, other than the freezing garage.

Kern Dog

The new compressor brackets arrived yesterday. They are designed to fit cars with the aluminum water pump housing. They looked nice and had detailed instructions.
It still barely clears the thermostat housing. An aftermarket chrome housing would certainly be too tall.
The hardest part here was the bolt that retains the compressor and power steering. The bolt they include is too long by 1/2" because the Edelbrock heads have that stupid bulged out flat edge. Seed pictures for what I had to do:


Kern Dog

I ran a 48" #6 hard line from the drier toward the front, over the core support and then turned to the middle.

Kern Dog

From the condenser, I ran a 30" line with 2 90 degree bends. I wasn't sure how far apart the two ends would be but if I ran a 36" second line, they would have fitted together. I'm probably going to replace the 30" line with the longer one. The alternative is to use a 6" section of hose and fittings.

b5blue

With the compressor mounted check for interference with fan, that was unexpected issue for my Flex fan.   

Kern Dog

Good point. I did hear that elsewhere. Check THIS out:


Kern Dog

The 36" hard line arrived today.