Another 440 SIX BBL 4-Speed Superbird for Sale?

[RSI700VIPER]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-Plymouth-Road-Runner-Original-Unrestored-Survivor/352764910514

For a long time, I didn't see any V-Code 4-speed birds for sale.  Then in the last 3 months or so, between Mecum, E-Bay, and other auction sites, I've see at least 10 pop up with prices ranging from $135K to north of 200K.  Didn't they only make 380 of these?  So unusual to see so many for sale in such a short period of time.  Makes me wonder if investors and dealers are expecting a downturn and dumping them on the market.   

[billssuperbird]

I always like the hub cap look on a Superbird

[62 Max]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-Plymouth-Road-Runner-Original-Unrestored-Survivor/352764910514

For a long time, I didn't see any V-Code 4-speed birds for sale.  Then in the last 3 months or so, between Mecum, E-Bay, and other auction sites, I've see at least 10 pop up with prices ranging from $135K to north of 200K.  Didn't they only make 380 of these?  So unusual to see so many for sale in such a short period of time.  Makes me wonder if investors and dealers are expecting a downturn and dumping them on the market.   

Total V code somewhere around 720.

[gtx6970]

Something tells me this car will be a total mess on an in person inspection.

[RSI700VIPER]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-Plymouth-Road-Runner-Original-Unrestored-Survivor/352764910514

For a long time, I didn't see any V-Code 4-speed birds for sale.  Then in the last 3 months or so, between Mecum, E-Bay, and other auction sites, I've see at least 10 pop up with prices ranging from $135K to north of 200K.  Didn't they only make 380 of these?  So unusual to see so many for sale in such a short period of time.  Makes me wonder if investors and dealers are expecting a downturn and dumping them on the market.   

Total V code somewhere around 720.

Yes, but how many V-Codes were 4-speeds?

[62 Max]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-Plymouth-Road-Runner-Original-Unrestored-Survivor/352764910514

For a long time, I didn't see any V-Code 4-speed birds for sale.  Then in the last 3 months or so, between Mecum, E-Bay, and other auction sites, I've see at least 10 pop up with prices ranging from $135K to north of 200K.  Didn't they only make 380 of these?  So unusual to see so many for sale in such a short period of time.  Makes me wonder if investors and dealers are expecting a downturn and dumping them on the market.   

Total V code somewhere around 720.

Yes, but how many V-Codes were 4-speeds?

One for sure !!

[bannedbird]

For this thread's record:

RM23V0A166162, 83,289 miles.  $149,995 (OBO). Text below is cut-n-paste from the offer (as of today, 8/24/2019):

"This 1970 Plymouth Superbird for sale has a Numbers Matching 440c.i. (390hp) Six Pack V8, Numbers Matching 4 Speed Manual Transmission, Dana 60 Rear w/ 3.54:1 Sure Grip, Correct Banana Yellow Exterior w/ Black Vinyl Top, Correct and Original Black Bucket Seat Interior, All Original Car w/ One Repaint in the Early 1980's, Said to be 83,289 ORIGINAL Miles On The Car, 1 Owner Car Until His Death In '18, Son Then Took Ownership, Son Sold To Second Owner Earlier This Year, Original Broadcast Sheet Included, Hurst Pistol Grip Shifter, Padded Dash, Two Speed Wipers w/ Washer, Solid State AM Radio, 8k Tic-Toc-Tach, 150mph Speedo, Dual Sport Mirrors, Front and Rear Seat Belts, Day / Night Rear View Mirror, All Original Interior, Original Floors w/ Factory Overspray, Original, Unrestored Cars Are Getting More Rare By The Day! One of the Few Unrestored '70 Superbird's Still In Existence!"

Looks like J97198 on fender tag.

[DAY CLONA]

Something tells me this car will be a total mess on an in person inspection.

One never knows until it's seen with one's own eyes, some owners can make a real mess trying to fix small issues, obviously this car has had a "repaint/touch up" at some point, biggest concern would be how is the inside of the nose cone/lower valance area and internal components?, as Superbirds have a tendency to rot from the inside out thru the lower cone/valance area, and this bird looks like it's exhibiting those traits, it's obviously going to need a restoration, unless the new owner likes driving it "as is"? it appears to be all there pretty much, but a little steep in the price seeing how much work it could/might need...


Mike

[odcics2]

To answer the OP's question.

Yes. When the "R" word is mentioned, folks pull back. 

[Stevetona]

To answer the OP's question.

Yes. When the "R" word is mentioned, folks pull back. 

Rust or Recession? 

[odcics2]

To answer the OP's question.

Yes. When the "R" word is mentioned, folks pull back. 

Rust or Recession? 

  BOTH!!!!!   

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[1970Moparmann]

Wow, the prices keep going up.  Granted this one is priced high based on condition.   

[1970Moparmann]

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[bannedbird]

Tan Top: thanks for the image postings.

[Mopar John]

If any one has a chance to get a better picture, I am curious about the air cleaner instruction decal.
There are several pictures but none close enough to make out the print.
Thanks! MJ

[RSI700VIPER]

Wow, the prices keep going up.  Granted this one is priced high based on condition.   

Those are asking prices.  What is selling is much lower.  A v-code 4-speed B5  bird sold lask week on ebay for $136k.  I was at mecum in Harrisburg and a fully restored matching numbers V-code 4-speed bird hammered down for $155k. 

[superbirdtom]

a friend sold his matching # V code 4-speed orange bird for 350k at Scottsdale mecum 4 months ago or so. dana mecum bought it an said it was best hes ever seen. he turned around and resold for 430k,  ill bet ppl are looking at sold for prices and basing theirs on originality documentation and level of restoration. My two friends restored it one who worked for a riddler award shop and went nuts on the resto.

[Birdflu]

a friend sold his matching # V code 4-speed orange bird for 350k at Scottsdale mecum 4 months ago or so. dana mecum bought it an said it was best hes ever seen. he turned around and resold for 430k,  ill bet ppl are looking at sold for prices and basing theirs on originality documentation and level of restoration. My two friends restored it one who worked for a riddler award shop and went nuts on the resto.

Based on your comments we're to assume the car was beautiful but over-restored?

[superbirdtom]

a friend sold his matching # V code 4-speed orange bird for 350k at Scottsdale mecum 4 months ago or so. dana mecum bought it an said it was best hes ever seen. he turned around and resold for 430k,  ill bet ppl are looking at sold for prices and basing theirs on originality documentation and level of restoration. My two friends restored it one who worked for a riddler award shop and went nuts on the resto.

Based on your comments we're to assume the car was beautiful but over-restored?

yes way over restored -

[dreamcatcher]

Rare car for sure but I smell rot coming through my puter. Lots of rot. Glad mine is a tribute (Not for investment but for driving fun)

[426HemiChick]

Based on your comments we're to assume the car was beautiful but over-restored?

Hi Birdflu,                    30 August 2019

Being quite uninformed in much of the terminology, just what is meant by "Over-restored?" Is this good?

Thanks in advance.

Best Always,

426 Hemi Chicks

[dreamcatcher]

It simply means better quality than it would have been from factory. And Better? that depends on what the person wants. To me even the paint we use is of better quality. 

[boss429kiwi]

You US guys undersell your cars, this is why many are leaving your shores.
The hobby in the US seem to rubbish the very hobby they are representing.

I don't get it.

A car comes up for sale and the forums go nuts, picking holes, and commenting how over priced it is etc. If the seller or an interested buys asks, well that's a different story. Sure making general comments is fine, and I do it myself, but I'm commenting on the haters.

Just my 2 cents.

[taxspeaker]

Bad day Gary? 

Being perfectionists and also human (and envious of others) it is kind of natural to pick stuff apart, and the anonymity of the internet makes it a little easier too. I am also guilty of what I call the "1st look critical" rush to find the non-matching stuff, but then I step back and look at the bigger picture of what is being presented.

I think the problem we are having in the US is that with the explosion of world-wide internet access, combined with 24 hours of auto-auction videos the average Joe car owner thinks his car is worth the price he sees on TV, thus leading to inflated US prices and the offsetting nit-picking by we purists, a natural thing in an environment of trying to get the best deal. Comments on rust and body work must be made to ensure buyer safety, but comments on incorrect wiring placement or mud flaps really don't mean anything other than boredom of the commenter sitting in front of a computer monitor.

So, enjoy your cars (I still can't see you being able to get in that Pantera!) and don't let the commenters get on your nerves too much. Go out and drive around in the Bird like we did 2 years ago and forget about it all.

Bob

[boss429kiwi]

Bad day Gary?  

Being perfectionists and also human (and envious of others) it is kind of natural to pick stuff apart, and the anonymity of the internet makes it a little easier too. I am also guilty of what I call the "1st look critical" rush to find the non-matching stuff, but then I step back and look at the bigger picture of what is being presented.

I think the problem we are having in the US is that with the explosion of world-wide internet access, combined with 24 hours of auto-auction videos the average Joe car owner thinks his car is worth the price he sees on TV, thus leading to inflated US prices and the offsetting nit-picking by we purists, a natural thing in an environment of trying to get the best deal. Comments on rust and body work must be made to ensure buyer safety, but comments on incorrect wiring placement or mud flaps really don't mean anything other than boredom of the commenter sitting in front of a computer monitor.

So, enjoy your cars (I still can't see you being able to get in that Pantera!) and don't let the commenters get on your nerves too much. Go out and drive around in the Bird like we did 2 years ago and forget about it all.

Bob

Yes, maybe a bad day.
At 6ft 6", the Pantera is tight! very tight, but does not stop me driving it
I now want a Countach, so I am a sucker for punishment lol

[62 Max]

Bad day Gary?  

Being perfectionists and also human (and envious of others) it is kind of natural to pick stuff apart, and the anonymity of the internet makes it a little easier too. I am also guilty of what I call the "1st look critical" rush to find the non-matching stuff, but then I step back and look at the bigger picture of what is being presented.

I think the problem we are having in the US is that with the explosion of world-wide internet access, combined with 24 hours of auto-auction videos the average Joe car owner thinks his car is worth the price he sees on TV, thus leading to inflated US prices and the offsetting nit-picking by we purists, a natural thing in an environment of trying to get the best deal. Comments on rust and body work must be made to ensure buyer safety, but comments on incorrect wiring placement or mud flaps really don't mean anything other than boredom of the commenter sitting in front of a computer monitor.

So, enjoy your cars (I still can't see you being able to get in that Pantera!) and don't let the commenters get on your nerves too much. Go out and drive around in the Bird like we did 2 years ago and forget about it all.

Bob

Yes, maybe a bad day.
At 6ft 6", the Pantera is tight! very tight, but does not stop me driving it
I now want a Countach, so I am a sucker for punishment lol

And when I'm ready to let go I'll be in touch,you'll be the first to know !!!!