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I found a couple 3rd Gen's in my local junkyard!!

Started by Lightning, May 13, 2006, 02:46:12 PM

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Lightning

well, after months of checking the 3 local junkyards (well, now 2 since one closed down to become a golf course)
I found a couple 3rd Gens among the other mopars there (and this 'yard doesn't crush it's classics since the owners bought it a year ago!)   So I might be able to trade the LeBaron for one of them, and even better news is they own another 'yard up in the Panhandle, with supposedly another couple Chargers there too!

I have some pics for y'all, but I should be able to get them up a little later today.


As for the Chargers,

one appears to be a yellow '72, with a regular dash without a tach, the interior is shot, but the real bad part about it is that it got hit in the left-front maybe possible subframe damage.  It's a hideaway headlight-optioned car too.  The fender is a write-off as is the hood, the grille might be salvage-able with a new left headlight door.  It's moderately rusty as well, and missing the taillight section

the other is a blue '73-'74, the dash is shot, as is the trunk area (the trunk was so bad it fell through), it's missing it's hood and is a small block with an automatic.  All the glass is missing as well as most of the interior. The grille is missing except for the bumper section, so I don't know if it's a hideaway-optioned car or not.

I'm not really caring about the interior since I'm going to be making a drift car out of whatever I get, which I feel is a better fate than the crusher since the shape they're in is pretty bad.

anyways, later today I should have some pics up of the Chargers and the rest of the Mopars there. If I can sometime next week, I'll get pics of the fendertags/chassistags.
when racing deals fall apart.....you go home, like me.

TheGhost

Quote from: Lightning 06 on May 13, 2006, 02:46:12 PM
the other is a blue '73-'74, the dash is shot, as is the trunk area (the trunk was so bad it fell through), it's missing it's hood and is a small block with an automatic.  All the glass is missing as well as most of the interior. The grille is missing except for the bumper section, so I don't know if it's a hideaway-optioned car or not.

They didn't have hideaways in 73-74, so, no, it's not.

So, let me get this straight...  You intend to trade your running, driving car, for a complete project?
Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  Especially if they have access to the internet.

262chargers

Quote from: TheGhost on May 13, 2006, 04:16:57 PM
So, let me get this straight...  You intend to trade your running, driving car, for a complete project?

Straight out of a junk yard none the less...  ::)
Whats this "drift car" talk all about  ???

Lightning

Quote from: TheGhost on May 13, 2006, 04:16:57 PM
Quote from: Lightning 06 on May 13, 2006, 02:46:12 PM
the other is a blue '73-'74, the dash is shot, as is the trunk area (the trunk was so bad it fell through), it's missing it's hood and is a small block with an automatic.  All the glass is missing as well as most of the interior. The grille is missing except for the bumper section, so I don't know if it's a hideaway-optioned car or not.

They didn't have hideaways in 73-74, so, no, it's not.

So, let me get this straight...  You intend to trade your running, driving car, for a complete project?
well, it's either the Lebaron or a car that's trying to not be something it isn't.   I'm toying with the possibility of maybe going stock car racing instead
when racing deals fall apart.....you go home, like me.

moparguy01

Quote from: Lightning 06 on May 13, 2006, 05:31:14 PM
Quote from: TheGhost on May 13, 2006, 04:16:57 PM
Quote from: Lightning 06 on May 13, 2006, 02:46:12 PM
the other is a blue '73-'74, the dash is shot, as is the trunk area (the trunk was so bad it fell through), it's missing it's hood and is a small block with an automatic.  All the glass is missing as well as most of the interior. The grille is missing except for the bumper section, so I don't know if it's a hideaway-optioned car or not.

They didn't have hideaways in 73-74, so, no, it's not.

So, let me get this straight...  You intend to trade your running, driving car, for a complete project?
well, it's either the Lebaron or a car that's trying to not be something it isn't.   I'm toying with the possibility of maybe going stock car racing instead

Neither a charger nor a lebaron was ever intented to be a "drift car" and if you mean drift car in the way I do beleive that you do, you are absolutely retarded doing that crap to an old mopar. Go buy a friggin honda and screw it up instead. Maybe you should give up racing and leave it to people who have an idea what they are doing.

262chargers

 :haha:  :lolexplode:

I'm kind of new around here, are we talking a K-Car Lebaron?
What exactly defines a "drift car"?
Why? Why? Why?

twilt

Naw, we are talkin a deluxe 77 Lebaron 4 door. If i had it, I`d be thrilled at the chane to trade it for a 3rd gen parts car. Now my real question is why would they want to trade? most of the junkyards i go to really like CASH.   

71440charger

hey man are there any floor shift cars and where in the panhandle do the have a yard i am in panama city
The Killer Cam

Lightning

Quote from: 71440charger on May 13, 2006, 07:25:07 PM
hey man are there any floor shift cars and where in the panhandle do the have a yard i am in panama city
The yard i'm talking about is near daytona, they told me it was in the panhandle area.    As far as the idea of making it a drift car is concerned, it will NOT END UP LOOKING LIKE THOSE IMPORTS.  For those of us around here who are a bit thickheaded, perhaps think back to before you had a performance car, maybe your ideas were crazy too. 
when racing deals fall apart.....you go home, like me.

moparguy01

Quote from: Lightning 06 on May 13, 2006, 09:08:15 PM
Quote from: 71440charger on May 13, 2006, 07:25:07 PM
hey man are there any floor shift cars and where in the panhandle do the have a yard i am in panama city
The yard i'm talking about is near daytona, they told me it was in the panhandle area.    As far as the idea of making it a drift car is concerned, it will NOT END UP LOOKING LIKE THOSE IMPORTS.  For those of us around here who are a bit thickheaded, perhaps think back to before you had a performance car, maybe your ideas were crazy too. 

actually no i never had dumb ideas like making a drift car out of one. I had ideas to make my car fast and look nice, which is something that I accomplished with my 64 dodge polara. and dont say "well it was a different time period then" because frankly it wasnt that long ago, just 2001.

twilt

Quote from: Lightning 06 on May 13, 2006, 09:08:15 PM
  For those of us around here who are a bit thickheaded 
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:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:
Isnt that the pot calling the kettle black!

TheGhost

Quote from: twilt on May 13, 2006, 07:20:52 PM
Naw, we are talkin a deluxe 77 Lebaron 4 door. If i had it, I`d be thrilled at the chane to trade it for a 3rd gen parts car. Now my real question is why would they want to trade? most of the junkyards i go to really like CASH.   

Neither would I, IF it wasn't my only car.
Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  Especially if they have access to the internet.

terrible one

Quote from: Lightning 06 on May 13, 2006, 09:08:15 PM
Quote from: 71440charger on May 13, 2006, 07:25:07 PM
hey man are there any floor shift cars and where in the panhandle do the have a yard i am in panama city
The yard i'm talking about is near daytona, they told me it was in the panhandle area.    As far as the idea of making it a drift car is concerned, it will NOT END UP LOOKING LIKE THOSE IMPORTS.  For those of us around here who are a bit thickheaded, perhaps think back to before you had a performance car, maybe your ideas were crazy too. 

I'm not necessarily bashing, but would just like to express my opinion. Drifting is for imports. They need to be small, light, stiff, low to the ground, etc. (From what I gather, at least.) If you havn't seen any muscle cars drifting, there has to be a reason for it. Firstly, you would probably put more money into making it a car that can actually drift than you would making a driver out of it. Secondly, it ruins the beauty and purpose of the car.

Lightning

maybe i came off harsh, sorry.   i'm just wanting to do something new with a Charger, thats all (And to beat a '69 Camaro in the process)
when racing deals fall apart.....you go home, like me.

262chargers

A 69 Camaro drift car  ???   this keeps getting better...
Why not built a stout motor/trans combo and beat a Camaro at the drag strip, like people have been doing for the last 30 years?

Lightning

Quote from: 262chargers on May 13, 2006, 11:17:32 PM
A 69 Camaro drift car  ???   this keeps getting better...
Why not built a stout motor/trans combo and beat a Camaro at the drag strip, like people have been doing for the last 30 years?
there's more to life than drag racing...
when racing deals fall apart.....you go home, like me.

262chargers

Quote from: Lightning 06 on May 13, 2006, 11:39:21 PM
Quote from: 262chargers on May 13, 2006, 11:17:32 PM
A 69 Camaro drift car  ???   this keeps getting better...
Why not built a stout motor/trans combo and beat a Camaro at the drag strip, like people have been doing for the last 30 years?
there's more to life than drag racing...


Really? Like what?  ??? Tell me more about life...

Thanks for the advice, but you didn't answer my question...

Silver R/T

he wants to drift a charger that he might acqure, dont stop the guy. You can drift anything with skill, theres no rules that it has to be import. More power to him
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Lightning

Quote from: 262chargers on May 13, 2006, 11:53:57 PM
Quote from: Lightning 06 on May 13, 2006, 11:39:21 PM
Quote from: 262chargers on May 13, 2006, 11:17:32 PM
A 69 Camaro drift car  ???   this keeps getting better...
Why not built a stout motor/trans combo and beat a Camaro at the drag strip, like people have been doing for the last 30 years?
there's more to life than drag racing...


Really? Like what?  ??? Tell me more about life...

Thanks for the advice, but you didn't answer my question...

I probably will build a engine that can do so, I just wanta turn left and right while going at a high rate of speed while I'm at it.  I can probably modify the car to run at Pike's Peak at the same time...
when racing deals fall apart.....you go home, like me.

Lightning

and now...the pics!
when racing deals fall apart.....you go home, like me.

Lightning

that was the back of the '72, here's the front
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Lightning

the interior (what's left of it) in the '72
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Lightning

the front shot of the '73-'74
when racing deals fall apart.....you go home, like me.

Lightning

last one for today, the rear shot of the same car
when racing deals fall apart.....you go home, like me.

hemihead

The yellow one is a 71. Notice the opening in the 1/4 for the Marker Light.
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NHCharger

How much of the work do you plan on doing yourself? Those are both parts cars. The cost to find and buy all the pieces to make one of them a running car will be far greater than just buying a driver off e-gay. :Twocents:
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TheGhost

Major projects.  I'd consider both of them to be nothing more than parts cars.
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TruckDriver

Quote from: NHCharger on May 14, 2006, 06:54:06 AM
How much of the work do you plan on doing yourself? Those are both parts cars. The cost to find and buy all the pieces to make one of them a running car will be far greater than just buying a driver off e-gay. :Twocents:
:iagree:

They are both pretty much junk. I wouldn't even get into one after you fix it as a drift car.
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MassCharger73

I'll leave the bashing to someone else, there seems to be no lack of willing participants. I dont think either one of those cars is worth the money to tow them home. Keep the LeBaron and drive it to work every day until you can afford a car worthy of repair. :Twocents:
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Darkness

I agree those cars are too far gone unfournately.  :'(  As for a drift car you can build an old car to drift (aka Dukes of Hazard) but, personally I think an older Toyota Celica or Nissan 180 or 240 SX would me choice for a drift car. Or an 80s Toyota Supra or early 80s Toyota Celica just my two cents.

twilt

If i remember correctly, Lightning06 acquired a small import P/U truck recently as a daily driver. Both of those cars look like parts to me. NHCharger is 100% right, you`d be better off spending more money upfront on a car in better condition. I guess i dont get or understand this drifting thing..... probably means I am getting old.


Lightning

Quote from: twilt on May 14, 2006, 08:59:51 AM
If i remember correctly, Lightning06 acquired a small import P/U truck recently as a daily driver. Both of those cars look like parts to me. NHCharger is 100% right, you`d be better off spending more money upfront on a car in better condition. I guess i dont get or understand this drifting thing..... probably means I am getting old.
yeah, i just got my hands on a good running Toyota p/u, and i start my new second job tomarrow.   Thanks for the advice regarding those parts cars though y'all, I'll post the rest of the pics later today.
when racing deals fall apart.....you go home, like me.

chrisII

i recently scrapped a 71 (one i got out of a yard) that was in 10x better shape than either of those cars. when i got the car i was racing and bought it to race or to use as parts. it wound up being to far gone to even be worth it for a race car. sorry to say i agree with everyone else tou nead to save up some cash and buy something that still resembles a car. its much more likely you will finish a project if you can drive it between upgrades.

Lightning

well, there was a Plymouth A-body there too, so would that car be a better one for my application since the A-bodies are light?
when racing deals fall apart.....you go home, like me.

Arthu®

It doesn't really matter anything with RWD and some hp can drift. I work for the postal service I can make their vans drift 3/4 of a roundabout it just lacks power to do more and I lack driving skills. Really the best mod to make a car drift better is large wheels and low profile tires. The flex in high profile tires is enormous and make it less responsible and predictible to drift. After that you could go to stiffening the suspension, etc but I don't think you have the money for that (yet). You really should just save up and get yourself a half decent starting point. A not too rot 73/74 Charger with a big block/automatic are still readily available and cheap. Now there are enough cheap tricks to lower the rear a bit and the front can be lowered by altering the torsion bars. Get some cheap used probably scraped wheels and some low profile tires cheapest you can get (still expensive for larger wheels) the cheapest tires are for one most often the hardest compound and have less grip and are there for easier to drift, besides that you will be going through a couple of them so cheap is good anyways.

Arthur
Striving for world domination since 1986

terrible one

Quote from: MassCharger73 on May 14, 2006, 08:52:47 AM
I'll leave the bashing to someone else, there seems to be no lack of willing participants. I dont think either one of those cars is worth the money to tow them home. Keep the LeBaron and drive it to work every day until you can afford a car worthy of repair. :Twocents:

I agree. Those cars are not good candidates for anything but parts.

TheGhost

Quote from: Lightning 06 on May 14, 2006, 01:51:19 PM
well, there was a Plymouth A-body there too, so would that car be a better one for my application since the A-bodies are light?

What kind of Plymouth A body?
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Nacho-RT74

both are SEs... 71 and 73 respectivelly.

and both are junk IMHO... only for parts with luck
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Lightning

the Plymouth I was talking about was I believe a '69 or a '70 Scamp (Plymouth's version of the Dart?)  There was also a '65 Barracuda fastback there........but if y'all thought the Chargers were bad, this thing's ten times worse.

here's a pic of the Scamp:
when racing deals fall apart.....you go home, like me.

Lightning

there was also a '66 or a '67 Coronet 440:

when racing deals fall apart.....you go home, like me.

Lightning

I also found another A-body, this time a Dart
when racing deals fall apart.....you go home, like me.

Lightning

there was also a '63(?) Belvedere II 2-door and a '64 or '65 4-door:

when racing deals fall apart.....you go home, like me.

Arthu®

Do you want my honest opinion? I think you might be looking in the wrong place for a car. Not saying there aren't out there that are saveable, but most likely the reason they are in a junkyard is that well the name says it all they are junk. Good for parts but nothing more than that. It's time to go scout around town and through the online classifieds for better cars. Take for example this car:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1974-Dodge-Charger-400ci-BIG-BLOCK-MOPAR_W0QQitemZ4639991130QQcategoryZ6199QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

It might not be close and sure the auction has not ended yet but at least it is a rolling BB B-body. It will most likely go for a about 1k I figure though I have no idea what they are worth. It is just to show you that with a little saving and some smart buying you could have yourself a starting point that with twice as much money could not be accomplished with one of those cars you found in the junkyard.

Arthur
Striving for world domination since 1986

TheGhost

If you are REALLY serious about owning a Charger, then here's what you should do.

Since you already have another daily driver type car, sell the LeBaron.  Take the money you get from it, and put it in the bank.  Every paycheck, put a little bit into that fund.  Eventually, you'll have enough to buy a clean, running 3rd gen.  Patience is the key.  Be willing to wait.  Don't just jump on the first Charger you find.
Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  Especially if they have access to the internet.

Lightning

well, I thought about it all night, and I'm gonna just drive or race the LeBaron until I wreck it, then by that time I'll be ready for a Charger.
when racing deals fall apart.....you go home, like me.

SirNik73

1973 Charger SE
1973 Charger Parts car
1968 Couger... got this one for free! and it looks like it was free :)
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1984 Mercedes-Benz 300SD

TheGhost

Quote from: SirNik73 on May 15, 2006, 02:16:22 PM
buy something like this

http://orlando.craigslist.org/car/155515688.html

put the 318 outta the Lebaron in it.

I really don't think that's much better than the LeBaron.
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SirNik73

1973 Charger SE
1973 Charger Parts car
1968 Couger... got this one for free! and it looks like it was free :)
1983 Toyota Tercel 4x4 Daily Driver
1984 Mercedes-Benz 300SD

MassCharger73

1973 Charger