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Started by XH29N0G, June 09, 2019, 01:27:22 PM

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XH29N0G

Can you tell me that this is?  The yellow one.
Who in their right mind would say

"The science should not stand in the way of this."? 

Science is just observation and hypothesis.  Policy stands in the way.........

Or maybe it protects us. 

I suppose it depends on the specific case.....

Kern Dog

Looks like a Jensen to me, British sports cars that often used Mopar 383s and 440s.

6bblgt

that's the best angle to view a .....

Lancia Fulvia Zagato Sport (V4 & front wheel drive)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lancia_Fulvia

Kern Dog

That is a hideous turd. Has Great Britian ever built a decent looking car? Oh, besides the MG ?

6bblgt


XH29N0G

Thanks for the ID and link.  I agree, that is the best angle.  If I see it again and have a chance, I'll take a look at other angles.  

I've seen a number of cars pop up this Spring.  I saw this one a few weeks ago.
Who in their right mind would say

"The science should not stand in the way of this."? 

Science is just observation and hypothesis.  Policy stands in the way.........

Or maybe it protects us. 

I suppose it depends on the specific case.....

odcics2

Quote from: Kern Dog on June 10, 2019, 12:26:20 AM
That is a hideous turd. Has Great Britian ever built a decent looking car? Oh, besides the MG ?

Yes, they have!!  TR-7 comes to mind!!

But blame this one on others!

"Iconic Italian manufacturer Lancia will no longer sell its cars outside of Italy, it has been confirmed. Part of the Fiat group, Lancia has struggled for sales, with Chairman and CEO of the Fiat group Sergio Marchionne stating, "Lancia will become an Italian market-only brand."
I've never owned anything but a MoPar. Can you say that?

Aero426

This is the more well known Fulvia body, but the uncommon HF performance version.      Still a V4, front driver.   Lancia's deal was V4 and V6 front drive, going back into the 50's. 


Aero426

Quote from: Kern Dog on June 10, 2019, 12:26:20 AM
That is a hideous turd. Has Great Britian ever built a decent looking car? Oh, besides the MG ?


XH29N0G

Reminds me,  this one was on the same street (my street) about 2 months ago.
Who in their right mind would say

"The science should not stand in the way of this."? 

Science is just observation and hypothesis.  Policy stands in the way.........

Or maybe it protects us. 

I suppose it depends on the specific case.....

Challenger340

Reminds me of a V12 Jaguar we got roped into rebuilding after a Jag Dealership tried and failed.
if I remember they were advertised right around 260 hp ?
We put it on the Dyno when we finished..... it made EXACTLY 264 hp.... must have been a "good" one !
Only wimps wear Bowties !

Kern Dog

Yeah, I'm sure my opinion of British cars will offend someone but you can't help what you like. Most European cars don't appeal to me though.

XH29N0G

Here are some more to mull over. The last one isn't European, or even that old.  Does that suit your tastes?  Maybe?

The second one has bumperettes, just like the GL, maybe a cross with a sporty version of the Griswoldmobile.

:nana:

I think its fine to prefer the aesthetics of older American cars.  That's why I have my charger.   :2thumbs:
Who in their right mind would say

"The science should not stand in the way of this."? 

Science is just observation and hypothesis.  Policy stands in the way.........

Or maybe it protects us. 

I suppose it depends on the specific case.....

Aero426

Quote from: Kern Dog on June 10, 2019, 11:19:55 PM
Yeah, I'm sure my opinion of British cars will offend someone but you can't help what you like. Most European cars don't appeal to me though.

Thanks for letting us know.    Don't you have some used tires to dispose of and "stick it to the man"?    :rofl:

alfaitalia

Quote from: Kern Dog on June 10, 2019, 11:19:55 PM
Yeah, I'm sure my opinion of British cars will offend someone but you can't help what you like. Most European cars don't appeal to me though.

Ive got no problems with that....and I don't think many Brits will. Different strokes etc......Hardly any US cars are imported to Europe (Jeeps aside....and they are a glorified FIAT now) because anything this side of about 1975 looks a bit odd in Euro eyes....especially 80s and early 90s cars. Well that and the generally "softer than we like" handling. Does not mean they are bad cars though....be interesting to know how many of your cars (actually built in the USA rather than Euro built Fords etc) are exported to Europe compared to how many we (Europe) send there.
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Mytur Binsdirti

Quote from: Kern Dog on June 10, 2019, 12:26:20 AM
That is a hideous turd. Has Great Britian ever built a decent looking car? Oh, besides the MG ?


Quote from: 6bblgt on June 10, 2019, 12:59:04 AM
Lancia is Italian  :cheers:


Even worse.   :smilielol:

Nacho-RT74

Quote from: alfaitalia on June 11, 2019, 09:17:41 AM
... we like handling...


...be interesting to know how many of your cars (actually built in the USA rather than Euro built Fords etc) are exported to Europe compared to how many we (Europe) send there.

touché!!

;D
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http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

XH29N0G

I just keep getting stuck with all the old cars in good condition.  Same parking spot as the blue Mercedes for the vw.

Who in their right mind would say

"The science should not stand in the way of this."? 

Science is just observation and hypothesis.  Policy stands in the way.........

Or maybe it protects us. 

I suppose it depends on the specific case.....

Aero426

Quote from: Mytur Binsdirti on June 11, 2019, 09:38:28 AM
Quote from: Kern Dog on June 10, 2019, 12:26:20 AM
That is a hideous turd. Has Great Britian ever built a decent looking car? Oh, besides the MG ?


Quote from: 6bblgt on June 10, 2019, 12:59:04 AM
Lancia is Italian  :cheers:


Even worse.   :smilielol:

The Italians invented rust.   Then they licensed it to Karmann.

Nacho-RT74

and all American cars bought the rust copyright for their quarters LOL
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

Kern Dog

I do like the styling of some of the Mopars from South America. Moparts had a section of their forum with lots of Argentina and Brazilian A bodies. I don't like the Australian GM cars though. Their styling looks odd to me.

odcics2

Quote from: Kern Dog on June 12, 2019, 10:39:45 AM
I do like the styling of some of the Mopars from South America. Moparts had a section of their forum with lots of Argentina and Brazilian A bodies. I don't like the Australian GM cars though. Their styling looks odd to me.

Maybe things would look different if you uncovered your other eye, as seen in your avatar.    :rofl: 
I've never owned anything but a MoPar. Can you say that?

Kern Dog

 :cheers:
Maybe styling is adjusted to match the regions where the cars will be sold. I don't like small cars and you see a LOT of them in countries with high fuel prices like Europe and Scandinavia. I don't prefer 4 doors and there are a LOT of them in Australia. I did like what the Aussies did with the Valiant Charger line. I like the South American Charger and GTX models.

XH29N0G

I looked and thought....
Who in their right mind would say

"The science should not stand in the way of this."? 

Science is just observation and hypothesis.  Policy stands in the way.........

Or maybe it protects us. 

I suppose it depends on the specific case.....

odcics2

I've never owned anything but a MoPar. Can you say that?

Kern Dog

Wow...That red GTO does look a LOT like the GTX !

XH29N0G

Who in their right mind would say

"The science should not stand in the way of this."? 

Science is just observation and hypothesis.  Policy stands in the way.........

Or maybe it protects us. 

I suppose it depends on the specific case.....

Nacho-RT74

Quote from: Kern Dog on June 13, 2019, 12:09:30 PM
I like the South American Charger and GTX models.


the GTX is from Argentina, not Southamerica. I meant, was assembled JUST in Argentina, maybe got to cross the border to Chile and Uruguay, but no more.

The Brazil made their Charger version too, but once again is Brazil, not SouthAmerica ;)

Both are A body
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

moparstuart

that GTX  sure looks  bigger then an A body 
GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

alfaitalia

Quote from: Nacho-RT74 on June 13, 2019, 03:44:13 PM
Quote from: Kern Dog on June 13, 2019, 12:09:30 PM
I like the South American Charger and GTX models.


the GTX is from Argentina, not Southamerica. I meant, was assembled JUST in Argentina, maybe got to cross the border to Chile and Uruguay, but no more.

The Brazil made their Charger version too, but once again is Brazil, not SouthAmerica ;)

Both are A body

Lol....according to my map Argentina, Brazil and Chile are ALL in the continent of South America!
If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you !!

Kern Dog

THat is how I see it too.
Maybe Nacho es Borracho ?
(Nacho is drunk)

Nacho-RT74

LOL Yes but I meant, is not generic to SouthAmerica. Venezuela for example assembled same cars than USA, with just diff options, but same sheetmetal. So if you say SouthAmerican Chargers, my Charger is "Southamerican" but is not the Brazilian one... got it?

Quote from: moparstuart on June 13, 2019, 04:19:36 PM
that GTX  sure looks  bigger then an A body 

But is indeed an A body. Same as the Spanish GT3700, which in fact shares a bit of the Argentinian Polara R/T and GTX
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

XH29N0G

Saw this one today.

its from the early 1950's - I'm pretty sure.  missed a picture of an e-type.
Who in their right mind would say

"The science should not stand in the way of this."? 

Science is just observation and hypothesis.  Policy stands in the way.........

Or maybe it protects us. 

I suppose it depends on the specific case.....

Nacho-RT74

Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

Kern Dog

Citroen went through a period of really strange styling, sort of like Chrysler with the early 60s.
In my opinion, they were God awful, hideous designs.

XH29N0G

You mean like this?
Who in their right mind would say

"The science should not stand in the way of this."? 

Science is just observation and hypothesis.  Policy stands in the way.........

Or maybe it protects us. 

I suppose it depends on the specific case.....

XH29N0G

instead of the new ones which look normal.   :smilielol:  I wanted to rent that one.

I'll keep my eyes open for others.

Who in their right mind would say

"The science should not stand in the way of this."? 

Science is just observation and hypothesis.  Policy stands in the way.........

Or maybe it protects us. 

I suppose it depends on the specific case.....

Kern Dog

Yeah, that beige one. Jeeeez those were hideous!   :eek2:

MoParJW

Quote from: XH29N0G on June 17, 2019, 01:32:57 PM
instead of the new ones which look normal.   :smilielol:  I wanted to rent that one.

I'll keep my eyes open for others.



An ugly car for sure, but a functional design, made by a French car manufacturer for good reason.

Let me tell you, I would be much more comfortable driving that thing through the French city traffic jungles than any big old classic car  :eek2: :lol:
'68 Plymouth Satellite sedan 318

Nacho-RT74

:iagree:

maybe ugly, but way ahead on technology against the NorthAmerican counterparts
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

Nacho-RT74

Patrick Jane uses his Citroën DS21






:icon_smile_big: :icon_smile_big: :icon_smile_big: :icon_smile_big:


Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

XH29N0G

Nice, missed that one. 

way too cool for me.


But the wagon really strikes a chord with me.  Almost as much as the Griswoldmobile,  (I think I already mentioned that.).

I found another unusual car (not French)

Also recently went to the South of France and unfortunately didn't get pictures of the lamborghini's and ferarris and porsches I saw (many, but too fast when they went by).  It was pretty amazing.  the number of cars is really impressive.

Who in their right mind would say

"The science should not stand in the way of this."? 

Science is just observation and hypothesis.  Policy stands in the way.........

Or maybe it protects us. 

I suppose it depends on the specific case.....

Nacho-RT74

Those Lada Niva were assembled in Venezuela too way ago on lates 80s earliers 90s, along with some of their other models: Samara, Matriuska, and 1600 ( which is a copy of a FIAT ). Russian Brand.
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

alfaitalia

They were assembled all over the place.

Amman, Jordan (LHJ)
Quito, Ecuador (Aymesa)
Bucharest, Romania (Dunarea)
Cherkasy, Ukraine (Bogdan)
Cairo, Egypt (Alamal Group)
Montevideo, Uruguay (Bognor)
Tolyatti, Russia (VAZ, VIS)
Thebes, Greece (Automeccanica)
Ust-Kamenogorsk, Kazakhstan


Interesting fact.... Niva is Russian for crop field!
If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you !!

XH29N0G

This one started with a Lancia Zagoato and lo and behold I saw another on a walk.  Someone dropping someone else off.

Who in their right mind would say

"The science should not stand in the way of this."? 

Science is just observation and hypothesis.  Policy stands in the way.........

Or maybe it protects us. 

I suppose it depends on the specific case.....

XH29N0G

Look what my wife found....  It looks kinda old.... but was parked on the street just like those others....

Who in their right mind would say

"The science should not stand in the way of this."? 

Science is just observation and hypothesis.  Policy stands in the way.........

Or maybe it protects us. 

I suppose it depends on the specific case.....

moparstuart

GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

XH29N0G

It said bugati on the front, but it seems crazy if that was driven on the street and real.  But I've been seeing a bunch of crazy cars around.  Here is a shot my wife sent from another angle.  On the internet it looks like a model 35B.

I'll keep looking.
Who in their right mind would say

"The science should not stand in the way of this."? 

Science is just observation and hypothesis.  Policy stands in the way.........

Or maybe it protects us. 

I suppose it depends on the specific case.....

6bblgt


XH29N0G

Could be?   :shruggy:  I'll look to see if I can figure it out, but if someone else sees this (maybe your vw suspension point).  It also could make sense with it being on the street.
Who in their right mind would say

"The science should not stand in the way of this."? 

Science is just observation and hypothesis.  Policy stands in the way.........

Or maybe it protects us. 

I suppose it depends on the specific case.....

6bblgt


6bblgt

real Bugatti $$$$