RM23U0A158594 Superbird FJ5 4spd on eBay 4-7-19

[Birdflu]

Just listed...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-Plymouth-Road-Runner-Superbird/192883793185?hash=item2ce8c51d21:g:fBoAAOSwTdZcqkzd&vxp=mtr

Tantop...help with pic's? 

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[A383Wing]

Good looking car, at least from the pictures....

part of the ad reads:

Superb matching numbers 440 engine
Superb matching numbers transmission ( pistol grip) 
Superb original Dana 60
Superb paint in original color
Superb original interior
Richard Petty signed glove box lid
All body and partial body numbers matching
Both original jacks, tools and spare are in the trunk
No rust or bubbling
Superb top
Superb glass

The seller listed this as a complete rotisserie restored example, yet we see another brown muddy speedometer face in one of the pictures....basically the first thing you see when you get into the drivers seat.....I just don't get it.....all that money spent, on what he says is a car with under 20k on the clock

Bryan

[hemi-hampton]

Yeah, I noticed that right away also. Cars nice but not that nice.

[Birdflu]

Thanks for posting the pic's TT! Now that I look, the VIN pad on the engine block looks funky to me. The digits look oddly 'raised'. Also, how many coats of engine paint on only a 20K mile vehicle does it take to completely bury the VIN pad milling marks? Just an observation...

[DAY CLONA]

Good looking car, at least from the pictures....

part of the ad reads:

Superb matching numbers 440 engine
Superb matching numbers transmission ( pistol grip)  
Superb original Dana 60
Superb paint in original color
Superb original interior
Richard Petty signed glove box lid
All body and partial body numbers matching
Both original jacks, tools and spare are in the trunk
No rust or bubbling
Superb top
Superb glass

The seller listed this as a complete rotisserie restored example, yet we see another brown muddy speedometer face in one of the pictures....basically the first thing you see when you get into the drivers seat.....I just don't get it.....all that money spent, on what he says is a car with under 20k on the clock

Bryan

It's a decent Bird, I'm not found of the fully painted undercarriage, the BROWN gauges in a "restored" vehicle are one of my pet peeves, no attention given to the interior, regardless of how original it may be, and that ill fitting D.Patik repro front spoiler has to go....

[5hunert]

  On the non-restored speedometer.  At what point does decent original stuff get thrown away when fixing up a low mileage car?  It would appear the car was completely dismantled to be painted, based on the green underside.  If the interior is "original" as the ad states (Superb Original Interior) whats wrong with putting the car back together with not-perfect, but original parts? At 20k miles and 49 years of aging, I'm willing to bet the carpet, shifter grip & boot, ashtray, etc aren't 100% perfect condition either.  Enjoy that it looks good for as does for an original instead of a repop. 

[WINGIN IT]

Appears to have sold for 120K

[Birdflu]

Appears auction ended at $119,999.99. It did NOT meet its reserve.

[FJ5WING]

On the non-restored speedometer.  At what point does decent original stuff get thrown away when fixing up a low mileage car?  It would appear the car was completely dismantled to be painted, based on the green underside.  If the interior is "original" as the ad states (Superb Original Interior) whats wrong with putting the car back together with not-perfect, but original parts? At 20k miles and 49 years of aging, I'm willing to bet the carpet, shifter grip & boot, ashtray, etc aren't 100% perfect condition either.  Enjoy that it looks good for as does for an original instead of a repop. 

IMO the fresher tach makes the unrestored gauges look like chit! Either youre restoring the car or youre not! theres enough paint on the fender tag to render it almost unreadable but the gauges are beyond yellowed!

[5hunert]

On the non-restored speedometer.  At what point does decent original stuff get thrown away when fixing up a low mileage car?  It would appear the car was completely dismantled to be painted, based on the green underside.  If the interior is "original" as the ad states (Superb Original Interior) whats wrong with putting the car back together with not-perfect, but original parts? At 20k miles and 49 years of aging, I'm willing to bet the carpet, shifter grip & boot, ashtray, etc aren't 100% perfect condition either.  Enjoy that it looks good for as does for an original instead of a repop. 

IMO the fresher tach makes the unrestored gauges look like chit! Either youre restoring the car or youre not! theres enough paint on the fender tag to render it almost unreadable but the gauges are beyond yellowed!

It's the all or nothing philosophy I was questioning. If the starting point is  a low milage car with car with an overall good original interior but body and paint that needs lots of help, should one throw away the but good, but not perfect interior in favor of restoration parts?  Or is retaining the surviving original interior a plus? 
Also, has the tach been refaced?  Tach/clock faces age much more gracefully than the remaining gauges. The white was painted first on clocks, with the black overlay second.  The rest of the gauges were white applied over black, so the black leached through causing the  yellow. The difference in condition looks typical of original gauges to me.

[Dragon Slayer]

Probably did not have tach to begin with and it was added, hence the difference in appearance.