HellCat Parking Lot.

[INTMD8]

LOTS of Chargers in the OPs pic!!!! 

Challenger pic doesn't mean all Hellcats are Challengers.  (last time I checked)   

Doesn't matter to me where this thread goes, or where Hellcats go.  (but would never bring mine to a car show)

[dodgey68]

Ok go back to 1968 or 69 take the same picture, and same comment, of they sell these high horse powered cars to every one,, flashy colours,  etc etc, 50 years later,  now there an icon in the mopar world,
now with this pic, with this generation, maybe the same will happen in 50 years after a fair few get written off, and left in sheds??

[hemi-hampton]

I don't have to many Hell Cat Charger pics. Here's one I worked on. LEON.

[BSB67]

Don't really understand the "old cars are to expensive" deal.  Most young people I know could easily afford a classic muscle car.  They just don't want one.   

When I was much younger, I could not care less about the cars from my dad's time, and my grandfather's time. Why would you think young people would want a car from your time period?  I'm not saying that there are not exceptions.   

[INTMD8]

I think it just depends on who you're talking to.  I work at a performance oriented automotive shop and know many young enthusiasts.  Many with newer cars and many with older cars.

I like cars before my time.  I was born in 78 and have a 59 Cadillac.  Would have a Duesenburg and many other pre war cars if I could afford them.

No doubt a lot of wants and therefore purchasing decisions are driven by nostalgia but a beautiful car is timeless and desired no matter what it's date of manufacture.

[Ponch ®]

The Mopar world has a very hard division between the "new" and "old". ....


As for young guys now . . . they just don't have any goddamn money...

...and the ones that do would rather buy a car that's ready to go with 700+ horsepower and won't randomly break down on you.  Any extra $ will be spent on visual modifications (wheels/paint or vinyl wrap/shiny lights every where) and/or some performance upgrades thatll give it even more power.  

They don't have the patience to spend $70K on a car they won't get to drive for another 5 years, when the resto shop is done with it. Instant gratification, that sort of thing.  And they're not necessarily wrong. There are exceptions, of course - some of them post here - but I've been in the "new" mopar scene for almost 15 years now and that seems to be the case in general.

[hemi-hampton]

To make this Charger related here it is when done. Had zero miles on it & brand new when damaged. LEON.

[Mytur Binsdirti]

Just for curiosity, what happened to this new Charger & how does a dealership handle selling a brand new repaired car?

[Mike DC]

...and the ones that do would rather buy a car that's ready to go with 700+ horsepower and won't randomly break down on you.  Any extra $ will be spent on visual modifications (wheels/paint or vinyl wrap/shiny lights every where) and/or some performance upgrades thatll give it even more power.  

They don't have the patience to spend $70K on a car they won't get to drive for another 5 years, when the resto shop is done with it. Instant gratification, that sort of thing.  And they're not necessarily wrong. There are exceptions, of course - some of them post here - but I've been in the "new" mopar scene for almost 15 years now and that seems to be the case in general.

  --  The impatient ones are dealing with a bad case of common sense.  We shouldn't knock it just because we don't have it.  

If buyers in 1968 had to pay $7000 for a hot muscle car, and they could finally pick it up from the dealership in 1973 . . . there wouldn't have been a muscle car scene back then either.

[Ponch ®]

...and the ones that do would rather buy a car that's ready to go with 700+ horsepower and won't randomly break down on you.  Any extra $ will be spent on visual modifications (wheels/paint or vinyl wrap/shiny lights every where) and/or some performance upgrades thatll give it even more power.  

They don't have the patience to spend $70K on a car they won't get to drive for another 5 years, when the resto shop is done with it. Instant gratification, that sort of thing.  And they're not necessarily wrong. There are exceptions, of course - some of them post here - but I've been in the "new" mopar scene for almost 15 years now and that seems to be the case in general.

  --  The impatient ones are dealing with a bad case of common sense.  We shouldn't knock it just because we don't have it.  

If buyers in 1968 had to pay $7000 for a hot muscle car, and they could finally pick it up from the dealership in 1973 . . . there wouldn't have been a muscle car scene back then either.

yep common sense. people still argue about whether "new" muscle is better than "old" muscle. No sh*t, new cars are gonna wipe the floor with an old car. I don't even know why that's an argument. Those of us who still like the classics don't like them because they're "better", we just like them because...well, we like them. Like Coke v. Pepsi, In N Out v. Five Guys, and so on. You can argue about it all day but is subjective.

[hemi-hampton]

Just for curiosity, what happened to this new Charger & how does a dealership handle selling a brand new repaired car?

Some get sold at Auction if damage severe, & if minor gets sold at dealership. You wouldn't believe some of the stuff I had to repair on brand new cars.  New cars get damaged all the time. So when you pick up your new car at the Dealership do you really know what it's been through?

[HeavyFuel]

To make this Charger related here it is when done. Had zero miles on it & brand new when damaged. LEON.

The door guard block looks effective.   I could put some of those to work in my garage at home.   

[sccachallenger]

Many young drivers can't afford to drive anything.
Our daughters friend doesn't drive, he's 19.
Cost of insurance for his single parent is prohibitive, not to mention regular maintenance, repairs etc.
Right now he's concentrating on his education, hopefully one day he'll join the driven public, in a Mopar!

[VegasCharger]

Many young drivers can't afford to drive anything.
Our daughters friend doesn't drive, he's 19.
Cost of insurance for his single parent is prohibitive, not to mention regular maintenance, repairs etc.
Right now he's concentrating on his education, hopefully one day he'll join the driven public, in a Mopar!

I call BS. Now I'm NOT attacking you or your acquaintance but what ever happened to buying a beater for you first car? $1000.00 or less. Buy an old Buick or Olds 4 door car. Probably won't be beaten up due to them being driven by older generations. Drive it while saving up for your desired car. I bought me a winter beater so that I wouldn't rust up my 2001 Dodge Ram rust free from the desert. Into storage it went until spring and I'm driving a 1992 Buick Century that cost me $750.00.

My guess is that younger people don't want to be humiliated driving a SH!tty car. Wouldn't want that to get on Facebook, Twitter, Snap Chat, InstaGram or whatever social media BS. blah blah blah. So yeah go in debt buying a new car.

At least your acquaintance is smart enough not to buy something he can't afford.

[Kern Dog]

That is funny, Bryan....and probably true.
When we were kids, the worst was being humiliated in front of three or four guys. Nowadays, the kids seem to be totally lost without their social media attachments. When they fall from grace, it isn't just 3 or 4 people laughing at them, it could be a dozen, maybe a LOT more.
I often wonder how I would act if I were 19 today. AS far as I can recall, I have always done what I wanted, not what society did. I didn't wear the cool clothes or listen to the most popular music. I'd like to think that if I were 19 today, I'd still do my own thing a nd not give a shit about tech or social media.

[Mytur Binsdirti]

Many young drivers can't afford to drive anything.
Our daughters friend doesn't drive, he's 19.
Cost of insurance for his single parent is prohibitive, not to mention regular maintenance, repairs etc.
Right now he's concentrating on his education, hopefully one day he'll join the driven public, in a Mopar!

I'll take you word on your friend's daughter, but many young people do buy expensive cars. I don't blame them for not wanting our old iron; I certainly had zero interest in cars from my dad's generation.

When I was 16, getting a job to save up for a car, and getting my driver's license was my ticket to freedom out of my parent's house. That was what everyone did until very recently. Too many of today's kids  choose not to drive because they don't want to leave the house. Why? ....because everything they want is on the computer screen that is always in front of their face. ....And many have the attitude that entry level jobs are beneath them. The same holds true for entry level cars.

[jefferson]

Ill chime in here, purely, because lets face it, honestly, im probably the youngest in this thread, let alone on this forum, im mid twenties, so i know all about my generation and yes very correct, there are VERY VERY VERY few young ones now as there first car drive a cheap, easy to drive, easy on the fuel, economical @shitbox. WHY? Because correcto, they dont want the humiliation, they dont want that on facebook, NOW EVERY mate of mine and there mate are financing 60k cars straight from the dealership, my first car when i was 18 was a 1988 beaten up camry, bought it for 1500 bucks, drove it for 5 years till i had the money to buy a newer camry, and NOW i also own a 68 charger. Ive done things imo the correct way, started from the bottom, worked my ass off, working 2 jobs, never cared if i was seen driving in a beaten up shitbox and look where it got me, not many mid twenty year olds own a classic dodge charger and trust me, they sure would want one. But you know what and why, they were silly enough to as there first car, go and get them selves locked into a stupid loan or mortage for 60 plus grand for there first car, i like to think of myself as not part of this generation because i have sense, unfortunatly tho being mid twenties i am, although i do alright for myself, i see everyone else my age in a world of debt and stupidity, putting everything on afterpay, layby, credit cards. Cars are no different.

They all want the latest and flashest thing, they all want to pose on instafacesnapchat online garbage with there brand new loan twin turbo BMW or Audi or whatever for 60-80grand and blend in with the rest of this damned young generation. Beyond help if you ask me, lucky i was smart enough to never get caught up into it. And im proud every step of the way in what i have achieved over the last 10 years with myself and my current situation.

[Mytur Binsdirti]

Good job Jefferson!

[jefferson]

Many young drivers can't afford to drive anything.
Our daughters friend doesn't drive, he's 19.
Cost of insurance for his single parent is prohibitive, not to mention regular maintenance, repairs etc.
Right now he's concentrating on his education, hopefully one day he'll join the driven public, in a Mopar!

I'll take you word on your friend's daughter, but many young people do buy expensive cars. I don't blame them for not wanting our old iron; I certainly had zero interest in cars from my dad's generation.

When I was 16, getting a job to save up for a car, and getting my driver's license was my ticket to freedom out of my parent's house. That was what everyone did until very recently. Too many of today's kids  choose not to drive because they don't want to leave the house. Why? ....because everything they want is on the computer screen that is always in front of their face. ....And many have the attitude that entry level jobs are beneath them. The same holds true for entry level cars.

Many of todays kids do want to drive, but they only want to drive the latest and greatest straight out of the dealership, unless its desperate, over here in AUS, i RARELY ever see any young kid/teenager, twenty somthing driving a lower class car you know he has paid his own way thru, very very easy to tell if it has been financed and has put him in debt, can tell you that much. Good time to be in the new car sales bussiness i guess. Every kid turning 18 now and getting there license here, goes straight into the brand new dealership and bam, signs away for a 60k plus car. Gone are the days of going to used car lots and buying an older car for a few grand until you could save up yourself and buy what you really wanted. Like i did. But hey, i like to think im different. I do own a classic 68 charger and a mid newish car also. And im only in my twenties, Not one cent was borrowed, all the money for both cars was earnt with my own 2 hands. Nothing from banks, parents,friends, loans, mortgages etc etc.

[jefferson]

Good job Jefferson!

Not sure if your being a smart arse or actually complementing?
If your being a smart arse there is no need for it
But if your complementing, thanks i guess. Just had my head screwed on all my life.

[jefferson]

And btw  Mytur Binsdirti  i fixed the grill on my 68, so its no longer bent lol
Can be a smart arse on that one if you want, cos u had me 

[Mytur Binsdirti]

Good job Jefferson!

Not sure if your being a smart arse or actually complementing?
If your being a smart arse there is no need for it
But if your complementing, thanks i guess. Just had my head screwed on all my life.

Complimenting!

[INTMD8]

When I was 16, getting a job to save up for a car, and getting my driver's license was my ticket to freedom out of my parent's house.

Absolutely.  $3.25 an hour stocking shelves at a grocery store when I was 16 to buy a rusted out 4 door Nova. 

Paid for my own insurance, fuel, parts.  (so not relating to the -insurance too expensive for single parent- comment above)

[Mytur Binsdirti]

You were rich! My first job was as a bag-boy at a local supermarket making 1.85 per hour & in 1975, I managed to save up 700 bucks in six months to buy my first car; a 69 318 Charger.

[BSB67]

You were rich! My first job was as a bag-boy at a local supermarket making 1.85 per hour & in 1975, I managed to save up 700 bucks in six months to buy my first car; a 69 318 Charger.

You got screwed.  In 1975, I was making $2.10/hr, and bought my first car for $600, 1968 Charger, 383 2bbl.