Power window wiring

[Dino]

Both of these are live wires, the slip on connector I believe used to go to the relay behind the instrument cluster, but where did the black wire with the ring terminal go?

[Charger-Bodie]

did you say the black wire is hot? im 98% sure that wire is the ground on my 68.

[Dino]

Yeah that's what I thought until it blew the fuse. I put power to the slip on connector and the ring terminal got hot. This is the loom from a C body. Now I wish I took more pics of it before installing it.

[Charger-Bodie]

something must be back feeding?

[Dino]

Yeah must be, that black wire is coming from the master switch so it should be ground. Time to dig a little deeper.

[Dino]

I traced the wire back to the master switch and it's getting 12v to that pin. Did I wire the switch wrong? Anyone have a pic of how their master switch is wired?

[ODZKing]

Dino, wiring schematics should be in you 69 service manual.
My 73 looks like this, shouldn't be too much different except mine only has 2 windows.

[Dino]

The wiring going to the switch matches the diagram, but the only pin on the switch that is not getting power is on the violet wire. I'm wondering if I have a later model master switch and I need to wire it differently.

[Dino]

I take that back, I had two wires swapped causing the ground to become hot. All is well now, carry on, nothing to see here...

[Dino]

So looking at the front of the master switch, the buttons operate from left to right: driver front, passenger front, driver rear, passenger rear. Kinda odd but I'll leave it alone if that's how they came. Does this sound right?

[Charger-Bodie]

Front button = left front....next going rearward is pass front.....then drivers rear... then pass rear

[Dino]

That's flipped from what I have but makes more sense so I'm wiring it your way.

[ODZKing]

Again, I only have 2 windows but closest to driver is driver window, next passenger. There is a plug on the back of my switches and that is they are wired from the factory.
Every car I have ever had that is the way it is. But no one is to say you can't do it any way you want.   

[Dino]

Yeah that's how mine run. I may change it. Got another problem. Driver side rear switch is not working properly. Tried 2 different switches with same result. From the master switch all windows roll up and down, but the rear switch doesn't do anything. If I wire it differently I can either have the glass go up or down, but not both. I'm going to have to check these wires.

[A383Wing]

Yeah that's how mine run. I may change it. Got another problem. Driver side rear switch is not working properly. Tried 2 different switches with same result. From the master switch all windows roll up and down, but the rear switch doesn't do anything. If I wire it differently I can either have the glass go up or down, but not both. I'm going to have to check these wires.

If you tried 2 different switches, the problem is not the rear switch.....it's the master switch toggle for the drivers rear.....the power to the motors runs through both the single switches and the master switch at the same time....one has to be in "neutral" position while the other switch is in "up or down"......they did this so you can't operate 2 switches at the same time and cause a short

[VegasCharger]

So looking at the front of the master switch, the buttons operate from left to right: driver front, passenger front, driver rear, passenger rear. Kinda odd but I'll leave it alone if that's how they came. Does this sound right?

Yep that's how my '68 Charger with PW is laid out (see pic below).

[rollo1504]

Dino, wiring schematics should be in you 69 service manual.
My 73 looks like this, shouldn't be too much different except mine only has 2 windows.

Hey,

I just wanted to inform you (after you are using "my" drawings)      that this drawing IS NOT CORRECT!

That has been made by myself during finding out why my power windows were not working..... BUT

please find enclosed the NEW drawing which is finally working great in my 73 Charger....

Hope this helps someone here.....

[rollo1504]

Refering to this picture which I found in another thread... the black wire is GROUND and the other one (TAN) is the hot wire....

I suppose that the black wire (GROUND) and the tan wire (HOT) are reverse round connected at the main switch.... interchange them....

Best way would be to use a voltmeter and measure them as well as beep them against chassis to find out which one is the ground wire....

And have a look at the enclosed wiring diagram... just follow the white rabbit :-)

[Dino]

I got the windows to work a while back. I ended up buying a brand new master switch because the old switch was too worn, but it didn't fix the problem. Short circuit below the carpet was the culprit. I double checked all the wiring, fixed the one little nick and everything is working as it should. One touch operation and remote operation.   

[rollo1504]

Nice to hear!