1970 383 four speed Charger in FM3

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-Dodge-Charger/233104068028?hash=item364615cdbc:g:qmwAAOSwd7xcQ3PO:rk:6:pf:0&vxp=mtr

looks a good project to start with  !!

 not going to mention the price , because every thing today seems to expensive  

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[bakerhillpins]

That's a pretty cool car. And looks like it's in decent shape body wise too. 

[alfaitalia]

Thats a REAL quality respray!!! LOL! You really are going cheap when you finish the colour half way around the sill (you say rocker!) and don't bother painting the inner pillars at all!

[Homerr]

Someone please restore to factory!

[Mytur Binsdirti]

It's going to cost every bit of 40 grand to properly restore that vehicle. Add that to the purchase price and you've got a $90,000.00 383 car. Doesn't seem to make economic sense to me.  

[Y1CHARGER]

It's going to cost every bit of 40 grand to properly restore that vehicle. Add that to the purchase price and you've got a $90,000.00 383 car. Doesn't seem to make economic sense to me.  

Some people actually restore a car for the enjoyment, the hobby, the challenge , and personal gratification they will get from their finished product.  It doesn't always have to be worth every hour and penny that you put into it.

[Mytur Binsdirti]

It's going to cost every bit of 40 grand to properly restore that vehicle. Add that to the purchase price and you've got a $90,000.00 383 car. Doesn't seem to make economic sense to me.  

Some people actually restore a car for the hobby, challenge , and personal gratification they will get from their finished product.  It doesn't always have to be worth every hour and penny that you put into it.

I get it, because I am that way too. Unfortunately, many will blindly get into this hobby thinking that it will cost them a fraction of what it will actually cost them.

[bad88t-top]

Great car to start with.  I'm with you guys, I do restorations for the enjoyment and end result.  BUT, who wants to invest in something that's going to be worth less when they're done.   I have several Chargers and would love to add another FM3 car to the garage but I wouldn't pay more than $27,500 for it.  I already talked to the owner and he's attemate he's going to get $47,500 in the end.   I told him to keep me in mind.   Fun car to do but 1500 hours of love and passion and $40K of parts and paint.  lol  Not to mention , it's not numbers.

[XH29N0G]

I agree with the 40 K to bring it back.  It will be interesting to see if he gets what he is asking.  It looks like there is a lot of work to be done, but also has the potential to make a very nice car in the end.

[chargerperson]

Thats a REAL quality respray!!! LOL! You really are going cheap when you finish the colour half way around the sill (you say rocker!) and don't bother painting the inner pillars at all!

The listing describes the paint job as a form of a positive feature

"The car was painted Hemi orange at some point in its life, but the pink is bursting out all over this car. Trunk, door jambs, underneath, frame, firewall, engine bay everywhere. Panther Pink!"

Add does say numbers matching but price still seems a bit high even at today's standards.

[chargerperson]

Looked at the 172 images online.  Interesting picture of the passenger door jamb.
Pink color showing through

[F8-4life]

Dang that's a rare one for sure.
Love it.

[Moparpoolman]

Great car to start with.  I'm with you guys, I do restorations for the enjoyment and end result.  BUT, who wants to invest in something that's going to be worth less when they're done.   I have several Chargers and would love to add another FM3 car to the garage but I wouldn't pay more than $27,500 for it.  I already talked to the owner and he's attemate he's going to get $47,500 in the end.   I told him to keep me in mind.   Fun car to do but 1500 hours of love and passion and $40K of parts and paint.  lol  Not to mention , it's not numbers.

  Seems as though he's asking "RT" or even "RT V code" money for it.  Cool color car and even cooler with painted roof and 4spd but don't think that's enough for the price tag. 

[hemi-hampton]

What would this be worth if it was originally a plain color like white or green or brown? Maybe $25K Does the Panther pink add another $25k to the price tag I don't think so My Math is a little different, car worth $25k & then $75k+ to restore. You'll have $100l+ into this this. at his price $125k+. I remember many years ago seeing a flawless mint 70 R/T Charger with 440 6 pack & Panther Pink at Mopar Nationals in Columbus for $100k. I thought that was a good price. I'd take that over this one anyday. LEON.

[DanielRobert]

This is what I love about ebay.......99% of people think their car (or part for that matter) is worth WAYYYYYY more than the rest of the world thinks it is. Kind of a reality check for those dreamers.

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    http://www.pantherpink.com/fm3288.htm

[Moparpoolman]

 
    http://www.pantherpink.com/fm3288.htm

Well, that explains what happened to the original hood 

[DAY CLONA]

What would this be worth if it was originally a plain color like white or green or brown? Maybe $25K Does the Panther pink add another $25k to the price tag I don't think so My Math is a little different, car worth $25k & then $75k+ to restore. You'll have $100l+ into this this. at his price $125k+. I remember many years ago seeing a flawless mint 70 R/T Charger with 440 6 pack & Panther Pink at Mopar Nationals in Columbus for $100k. I thought that was a good price. I'd take that over this one anyday. LEON.

Some will pay more for a particular color combo, and FM3 is rather few and far between when talking Chargers, granted it's not a V code car, but a 383 isn't bad, and the 4spd makes it more respectable/collectable...

Personally I'm not hooked on numbers other than Horse Power numerals, so I'd build a vehicle to my liking rather than dolling out large coin just to buy a fender tag, then have to drop more coin to refurbish, and be confined to the tags build as well...

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   http://www.pantherpink.com/fm3288.htm

Well, that explains what happened to the original hood  

that's what I thought,    

ebay ad says it comes with the numbers matching 383 block , must of located it , on the FM3 site no mention of it

if it  could be bought for a sensible price  & I was 20 years younger, would love to buy & do a nut & bolt  restoration on it.  will look awesome when restored, with that color combo  

[hemi-hampton]

Or maybe it got restamped

[RallyeMike]

Really cool car. It will be interesting to see what it brings.

[chargervert]

I would sell my matching numbers 70 V code Charger R /T for less money than he wants for this feminine colored 383 car.

[Kern Dog]

Did you guys notice the steering column? The underhood shots make it appear that it is an automatic, floor shift column. I see a lever on the column near the firewall that on MY 70, is attached to the shifter linkage.

[Alaskan_TA]

Did you guys notice the steering column? The underhood shots make it appear that it is an automatic, floor shift column. I see a lever on the column near the firewall that on MY 70, is attached to the shifter linkage.

All 1970 model year steering columns have an arm for the lock out linkage regardless of transmission type.

[XH29N0G]

   Mine was a manual, and I think I also have that lever, but I'm interested to hear what others say.

[Alaskan_TA]

http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/images/serviceHighlights/70%20sh%20164.jpg

[hemi-hampton]

Did you guys notice the steering column? The underhood shots make it appear that it is an automatic, floor shift column. I see a lever on the column near the firewall that on MY 70, is attached to the shifter linkage.

All 1970 model year steering columns have an arm for the lock out linkage regardless of transmission type.

Good to know, Mine had the same column & linkage & was floor mounted automatic, some people accused me or somebody of changing it from column shift to floor shift or changing column but my car was all original unrestored low mileage car & I knew the car since 1980 & knew it was all original. Thanks for the info. LEON.

[Kern Dog]

Did you guys notice the steering column? The underhood shots make it appear that it is an automatic, floor shift column. I see a lever on the column near the firewall that on MY 70, is attached to the shifter linkage.

All 1970 model year steering columns have an arm for the lock out linkage regardless of transmission type.

Thank you. I was hoping that an astute member would know for certain. I have not seen many 1970 Chargers with manual transmissions to have observed their quirks.

[Alaskan_TA]

The 1970 model year has a lot of one year only features.

That is one reason I try to research it exclusively.

[F8-4life]

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[chargervert]

The linkage locks the shifter in the reverse position,and the key will not release from the ignition until the linkage moves the bottom collet on the steering column to rotate enough for the ignition switch to turn to the lock position and then the key may be removed. It is an anti theft device,that works the same way as an automatic car did on 1970 models. The automatic car must be in park to shut the ignition switch off completely and remove the key.

[Kern Dog]

Okay. I guess if I convert mine to the 5 speed Tremec I'll just have to position the lever in the LOCK position.
Good to know.

[chargervert]

I have been known to use a carb return spring to keep the collet in the proper position.

[XH29N0G]

I think the lock is attached to the base of the column, so you can rotate that to start if it bumps down to a lockout position. 

[70 sublime]

I think the lock is attached to the base of the column, so you can rotate that to start if it bumps down to a lockout position. 

I have had to do that but it was to get the key out of the ignition 

[chargerperson]

Price lowered $43,999

[hemi-hampton]

He should drop it to $25k.

[Mytur Binsdirti]

He should drop it to $25k.

Or best offer.

[Moparpoolman]

He should drop it to $25k.

Or best offer.

Now it's best offer over $35,000

https://www.ebay.com/itm/233114156347?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&fromMakeTrack=true

[hemi-hampton]

Looks like it Start's at $35k. He's getting closer. Didn't it start out at $49k?  LEON.

[hemi-hampton]

Who ever buys it better plane on rebuilding Door hinges. Drivers side sagging extremely low. Got so bad it tore up the metal around Door Latch Mechanism on Door. Typical of saggy Door. As seen in his Pics. LEON.

[chargerperson]

He should drop it to $25k.

Or best offer.

Now it's best offer over $35,000

https://www.ebay.com/itm/233114156347?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&fromMakeTrack=true

$25,500 was auto rejected when I offered.  Was pretty sure it would be rejected but took a shot. 

[bad88t-top]

He rejected $30,001 for me as well.   Told me he needs $38K out of it to break even.   

[Mytur Binsdirti]

   Told me he needs $38K out of it to break even.   

[Homerr]

Told me he needs $38K out of it to break even. 

I was more feeling like this.

[Lighthorseman]

Did you guys notice the steering column? The underhood shots make it appear that it is an automatic, floor shift column. I see a lever on the column near the firewall that on MY 70, is attached to the shifter linkage.

Is this the piece to which you refer, Mr. Kerndog?  I ask because I removed this when I converted my '70 Satellite from a column-shift auto to a 4-speed.  Did I do a bad thing?

[Alaskan_TA]

Manual or automatic, it is part of an OE 1970 column.

[Kern Dog]

I was proven wrong by a person with greater knowledge than I.
Curses, folied again!

[Alaskan_TA]

Education perhaps?

Not many here set out to just prove others wrong from what I have seen while many are here to help when possible. 

[Mytur Binsdirti]

Manual or automatic, it is part of an OE 1970 column.

True, and it's part of the linkage that forces you to put it in reverse to take the key out.

[moparstuart]

Manual or automatic, it is part of an OE 1970 column.

True, and it's part of the linkage that forces you to put it in reverse to take the key out.

yes it will lock the column to where you can or can not turn the lock cylinder 

[hemi-hampton]

He rejected $30,001 for me as well.   Told me he needs $38K out of it to break even.   

If he needed $38k to break even then it looks like he lost $4k. Sold for $34k. LEON.