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73 Charger Rallye true value

Started by Paul G, December 05, 2018, 09:24:11 PM

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ACUDANUT

 Just a idea....cover the old one with fiberglass resin and cloth tape. Sand it and see how it looks.

Nacho-RT74

I think i have an uncut housing around for clock/tach if is the one you need. Could be yours paying for shipping and a hair more I guess.

EDITING

Fresh paint, some better lenses and voila... but uncut

Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

tfdub

 Which Rallye dash setup do you have? Posting a photo of what you have can help us identify what you need whether its the tachometer or gauge setup.
Terry

Nacho-RT74

Yeap, the dash pic posted is not clear about that, just visible the cut bezel and speedo LOL.

It should be tach, being 4 speed I guess

EDITING!

Looking closelly I can see the dual small meters lettering, so is clock/tach cluster

And with more detail, I can't see the clock setting knob shaft, and I can see the central white circle outline tachs got,  so must be tach
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

tfdub

 You've got great eyesight Nacho. My 66 year old eyes struggle to see the finer details. Hopefully, he can get by with just an uncut dash bezel
Terry

Paul G

The car is not accessible right now for a pic. It is a speedo, tach, and two dual gauges.
1972 Charger Topper Special, 360ci, 46RH OD trans, 8 3/4 sure grip with 3.91 gear, 14.93@92 mph.
1973 Charger Rallye, 4 speed, muscle rat. Whatever engine right now?

Mopars Unlimited of Arizona

http://www.moparsaz.com/#

wingcarenvy

What a find! I love it and I am not a big fan of 3rd gen Chargers. Find another solid four speed big block anything Mopar for 5500. What a steal!! Good job.

Vegas_Nick

Please, please, if you think of selling this thing, PM me!

73rallye440magnum

Agree with Vegas Nick. Awesome score.  :coolgleamA:
WTB- 68 or 69 project

Past- '73 Rallye U code, '69 Coronet 500 vert, '68 Roadrunner clone, XP29H8, XP29G8, XH29G0

Paul G

Quote from: Nacho-RT74 on December 25, 2018, 03:01:21 PM
If your cluster got the bezel cut, then also the housing, to hold the radio by the knobs. If your cluster is clock or tach, is diff housing than the one you got




Here is a pic of the dash cluster. The one I bought on Ebay has the headlight and wiper indications different than this original one. All the gauges on this one work now.

1972 Charger Topper Special, 360ci, 46RH OD trans, 8 3/4 sure grip with 3.91 gear, 14.93@92 mph.
1973 Charger Rallye, 4 speed, muscle rat. Whatever engine right now?

Mopars Unlimited of Arizona

http://www.moparsaz.com/#

Nacho-RT74

yes, the switches indicators of the ebay ones are just 74. Doesn't affect on anything aside just the look, but they will light up same as the lettering on the 73. The bigger deal is that your cluster wasn't cut just on the bezel but also here ( attached ) and the housing of the one you got is diff, won't work with your setup. It can be modified thought.

Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

Nacho-RT74

the cluster you'll get will have this look on housing ( attached )

you can open the hole for the tach, and the provisions for the double meter gauges are still there on cast. You can compare both are casted the same to accept both setups, just the tach/clock opening being cut or not and the seats for the gauges sealed or not.

Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

Nacho-RT74

Otherwise, here is a housing what will work ( more less the same I think could be mine getting the shipping quote ), which in any case will make you can get the bezel from the cluster you got, this housing and resell the rest of the cluster you got previouslly

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1971-1974-CHARGER-GTX-ROAD-RUNNER-CLUSTER-HOUSING-GAUGE-CARRIER-RALLY-DASH/283229001396?fits=Year%3A1973%7CModel%3ACharger%7CMake%3ADodge&hash=item41f1c396b4:g:hz8AAOSwyiFb0qg2:rk:58:pf:0

( it seems some bulb lenses are melted thought )
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

Paul G

How rare/valuable is the one I have coming that does not have the tach/clock? I would consider cutting the hole for the tach, but if it is very rare, difficult to find an original, I would not like cutting it
1972 Charger Topper Special, 360ci, 46RH OD trans, 8 3/4 sure grip with 3.91 gear, 14.93@92 mph.
1973 Charger Rallye, 4 speed, muscle rat. Whatever engine right now?

Mopars Unlimited of Arizona

http://www.moparsaz.com/#

Nacho-RT74

Is the basic rallye setup allmost every Rallye got, allong with 72s Toppers and "plain" Bees and R/Ts. Clock setups used to be on SEs with Brougham package ( Clock is part of the brougham package ) but not exclusive thought since Rallyes could get that too without being Brougham package, and Tachs were in all 4 speeds and have seen them also on some HiPo autos... normally everyone upgrades to the Clock/Tach, and thats the reason why clock/tachs are more expensive. Around 4 or 5 years ago the prices rates for them as I had found were

basic: 130-180
Clock: 240-300
Tach: 350-450 and that's just because the tach itself no matter if not working because inners can be upgraded, but is still exactly the same cluster than the clock.

now the rates must be proportionally the same but higher due they are being harder to come by uncut with years

I can't recall if the housing got casted the area to be cut, but if not, will need to get a template for that. The housing got also the protusions ( they are visble there ) to the tach/clock holding screws what will need to be drilled too.
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

Nacho-RT74

Some ppl with nice and uncut basic rallye cluster tries to get upgraded to the clock/tach setup and will need just the housing and double meter gauges setup, since Speedo can be the same and tach can be bought reproduced ( 8K thought ). The market I'm trying to reach with my housing is for those because I have also the gauges and lenses mask. I just have missed actually the ammeter, althought have an ammeter face if somebody wants to make the volt conversion and use the face for his build.

I got luck on the cluster I bought around 8 years ago, from a 71 ( 150 miles ), because it was even with Knobs ( wiper knob is not easy to come by ) in $150 with clock... got the plus the wiper switch was variable speed!!!

Later found the correct 74 bezel.

5 years later found locally a 240 kmh speedo ( full cluster actually on the cheap, but not nice conditions, is the housing and parts I have extra ) and after some damages, fixings and stuff, now my car will be with kilo speedo....

to be able to use the variable speed switch, just had to get a 71 harness donor to use the plugs, since wiring is the same... just prongs and plugs disposition changes between 71 and 72/74 because 71s are larger ( 72/74 was not variable option, but 3 speed )
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

400sforever

Both my 73 rallye 4 speed and my 74 rallye 4 speed have the gauges instead of a clock or tach from the factory.
1974 dodge charger se 512 cubic inches, 3.91 suregrip

Nacho-RT74

Well, it seems not every 4 speeds got the tach, but it uses to be.
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

Paul G

So.... The instrument cluster I bought on Ebay came today. Delivered by Fedex. This is what came out of the box.

1972 Charger Topper Special, 360ci, 46RH OD trans, 8 3/4 sure grip with 3.91 gear, 14.93@92 mph.
1973 Charger Rallye, 4 speed, muscle rat. Whatever engine right now?

Mopars Unlimited of Arizona

http://www.moparsaz.com/#

70 sublime

The broken piece still in the box or was it busted before you bought it and was never told ??
next project 70 Charger FJ5 green

Paul G

The pieces were inside the wrapping. I contacted the seller, he has another one, he is deciding how to proceed. Claim against Fedex, or have me send this one back and send me the other one, Or just send me the outer bezel.
1972 Charger Topper Special, 360ci, 46RH OD trans, 8 3/4 sure grip with 3.91 gear, 14.93@92 mph.
1973 Charger Rallye, 4 speed, muscle rat. Whatever engine right now?

Mopars Unlimited of Arizona

http://www.moparsaz.com/#

Nacho-RT74

Oh yes I know FEDEX... I sold NOS 69 Coronet Tail light lenses here shipped to Canada and one of them arrived cracked and one gasket missed... it was a REAL headache try to get the insurance ( it took around 6 months ) and never got satisfied because the money exchange rate! actually got half of its real value! My suspect was on customs. They should drop the lense somehow and missed the gasket when inspecting
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

ACUDANUT

Nacho, remember 73-74's could no faster than 120. On 71-72 it went up to 150mph.  :nana:

42TIM

Quote from: ACUDANUT on January 03, 2019, 07:32:00 PM
Nacho, remember 73-74's could no faster than 120. On 71-72 it went up to 150mph.  :nana:

That's mean :-)

CDN72SE

Usually UPS damages my stuff; looks like seller should have used a stiffer cardboard box than that. I would ask for better packaging for the next one.
1972 Charger SE