XX29L9B217178 Charger 500

[held1823]

original f3 car, according to the fender tag and build sheet

https://www.vanguardmotorsales.com/inventory/3197/1969-dodge-charger-500

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[70 sublime]

Says new gas tank but there are a lot of dents in it near the front

[hemi68charger]

Slick way to do the back glass stainless trim if you don't have the original.......

[70 sublime]

So is it worth any less because it is not the same colour green as on fender tag ?

[tallzag]

Yes

[69_500]

I don't recall this car being numbers matching when it was for sale at Carlisle, I think 10+ years ago. I can't recall what year it was though, but there was a Y2 Hemi 500 4 speed car for sale that year too. XX29J9B210740.

Of course this is all off top of my head, as I am driving home from work. If I am wrong I will correct it when I get home.

[Stevetona]

I like the color but I would prefer it in its original born-with baby poo F3.  

[DAY CLONA]

Wow... the "fit" of panels, components, trim, etc is just horrible on this car!.....almost 6 figures for that?... sad

[nascarxx29]

 lakeland florida dan andrews car

[farm966]

I like the exterior color, but the interior color on top of the exterior is um, well, maybe a little much for me.   

[Simonic]

The fit on the passenger side headlight surround is awful....And how hard is it to fit an armrest....One of them looks like a banana 

[1969daytona]

The fit on the passenger side headlight surround is awful....And how hard is it to fit an armrest....One of them looks like a banana 

That was the first thing that went true my mind to.
How is it possible to get the headlight surrounding so wrong if the baskets/front clip is okay?

K-E

[62 Max]

The fit on the passenger side headlight surround is awful....And how hard is it to fit an armrest....One of them looks like a banana 

That was the first thing that went true my mind to.
How is it possible to get the headlight surrounding so wrong if the baskets/front clip is okay?

K-E

Depends on which picture you are lookong at.

[Stevetona]

Looks like the real numbers matching engine would like to have a word with the imposter.

https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/2712367/anyone-know-this-charger-500.html#Post2712367

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Looks like the real numbers matching engine would like to have a word with the imposter.

https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/2712367/anyone-know-this-charger-500.html#Post2712367

 this don't look good ... it had to happen at one time ! the original motor turning up , actually this is not the first time ive heard this happening, i'm sure the Hemi owners will or more likely to have had or going to have this happen as their value increases & more cars that were previously unknown or suposadly destroyed in the 70s , make a return as a perfectly restored car with matching numbers motor.

[70 sublime]

How come the vin on the motor in the car has letters and numbers that looked like they are raised and not stamped in ??

[white]

I looked at this car a few years ago I noticed the rear window trim was not correct. Overall not a bad car.

[chargervert]

I don't know what you guys are complaining about, the only thing better than one matching numbers engine, is two matching numbers engines, right? Lol

[moparstuart]

I don't know what you guys are complaining about, the only thing better than one matching numbers engine, is two matching numbers engines, right? Lol

right  LOL   always nice to have a spare     

[Aero426]

So is it worth any less because it is not the same colour green as on fender tag ?

Considering how nice F6 looks, arguably not significantly less.

Fender tag appears to be a repop.

[chargervert]

Buyer to Vanguard salesman. ....is that 500 matching numbers? Salesman to buyer ......twice times!

[Aero426]

Regardless of the block in the car,  any time I see a Facebook post from an attractive chick for a sought after part (that only one guy needs), it makes me wonder how legit it is.    

[RallyeMike]

Regardless of the block in the car,  any time I see a Facebook post from an attractive chick for a sought after part (that only one guy needs), it makes me wonder how legit it is.   

  I was thinking the same thing.

It's a "Who done it?" 

[DAY CLONA]

How come the vin on the motor in the car has letters and numbers that looked like they are raised and not stamped in ??

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[Ghoste]

True story- not that many years ago we had a 69 Camaro turn up at auction that the seller described to us as numbers matching.  Upon the cars arrival it was determined that the engine had been restamped.  When we called the seller out on it and told him the engine in the car was NOT numbers matching he told us, "yes it is, I know for sure its numbers matching because I stamped the numbers in the block myself".

[70 sublime]

I guess numbers matching and original numbers matching motor mean two totally different things   

[chargervert]

True story- not that many years ago we had a 69 Camaro turn up at auction that the seller described to us as numbers matching.  Upon the cars arrival it was determined that the engine had been restamped.  When we called the seller out on it and told him the engine in the car was NOT numbers matching he told us, "yes it is, I know for sure its numbers matching because I stamped the numbers in the block myself".

Now that there is some funny shit!  A real wizard! I had a 71 G 440 HP engine that the top pad looks like monkeys stamped the numbers in it. I bought a 71 Charger R / T  from my friend, and he wanted to keep the engine block, so I traded him my block,for the matching numbers engine block, and the matching numbers engine blocks top pad looked like the same monkeys stamped that one too!

[odcics2]

Slick way to do the back glass stainless trim if you don't have the original.......

Subtract 3-4K from the asking price to buy the real stuff!!!   

[hemi68charger]

I guess numbers matching and original numbers matching motor mean two totally different things   

Man, it IS getting to point of splitting hairs....... And I don't have much to give up any more....... :-)

[ksquared]

Regardless of the block in the car,  any time I see a Facebook post from an attractive chick for a sought after part (that only one guy needs), it makes me wonder how legit it is.    

OK, in case anybody is wondering, I tried to find the information for the (661) 202-7659 phone number listed in the Facebook posting.  For this one it turned up still questionable, all I could find was Gwendolyn Dacie at Katherine Manor Ct. in Hamilton OH.  Attempting to find Gwendolyn Dacie or any information about her proved to be difficult so far.  It is strange because the 661 area code with 202 should be out in California, maybe Riverside or Commerce.  I found another mention of Gwendoly Dacie on Sword Court in Santa Maria California, so maybe that is the previous address or maybe the current address.

[DonC1]

661 area code is Santa Clarita, just outside of LA - So Cal.

[odcics2]

A lot of folks move and keep their phone number.   

Not like the old days!

[ksquared]

A lot of folks move and keep their phone number.   

Not like the old days!

With cell phones it is now very common.

The other number I found for Gwendolyn Dacie was an (808) 212-xxxx number, which is in Santa Maria, California.

I'd be interested if anybody has tried to call the 661 phone number listed in the Facebook post.

[wingcarenvy]

I have a friend who collects unrestored Mopars. One of the cars he owns came with a 340 long block in a crate directly from the Plymouth dealer. It still had the warranty instructions for the mechanic. In the instructions from Ma Mopar it tells the mechanic to stamp the VIN in the new block. No extra or special markings were discussed. After seeing this I figure that there are a lot of "restamped" blocks done out there that are merely just warranty engines from back in the day.

[moparstuart]

I have a friend who collects unrestored Mopars. One of the cars he owns came with a 340 long block in a crate directly from the Plymouth dealer. It still had the warranty instructions for the mechanic. In the instructions from Ma Mopar it tells the mechanic to stamp the VIN in the new block. No extra or special markings were discussed. After seeing this I figure that there are a lot of "restamped" blocks done out there that are merely just warranty engines from back in the day.

wow interesting  info    

[Impkidd]

I have a friend who collects unrestored Mopars. One of the cars he owns came with a 340 long block in a crate directly from the Plymouth dealer. It still had the warranty instructions for the mechanic. In the instructions from Ma Mopar it tells the mechanic to stamp the VIN in the new block. No extra or special markings were discussed. After seeing this I figure that there are a lot of "restamped" blocks done out there that are merely just warranty engines from back in the day.

    Wow, if you could send us a pic of those instructions, that could change the classic car world significantly. Then we can study the type of font used and depth to stamp the blocks....

[wingcarenvy]

I have a friend who collects unrestored Mopars. One of the cars he owns came with a 340 long block in a crate directly from the Plymouth dealer. It still had the warranty instructions for the mechanic. In the instructions from Ma Mopar it tells the mechanic to stamp the VIN in the new block. No extra or special markings were discussed. After seeing this I figure that there are a lot of "restamped" blocks done out there that are merely just warranty engines from back in the day.

    Wow, if you could send us a pic of those instructions, that could change the classic car world significantly. Then we can study the type of font used and depth to stamp the blocks....

I will see what I can do.

[tan top]

I have a friend who collects unrestored Mopars. One of the cars he owns came with a 340 long block in a crate directly from the Plymouth dealer. It still had the warranty instructions for the mechanic. In the instructions from Ma Mopar it tells the mechanic to stamp the VIN in the new block. No extra or special markings were discussed. After seeing this I figure that there are a lot of "restamped" blocks done out there that are merely just warranty engines from back in the day.

    Wow, if you could send us a pic of those instructions, that could change the classic car world significantly. Then we can study the type of font used and depth to stamp the blocks....

I will see what I can do.

interesting  info !! would love to hear more about this if you get the chance 

[Ghoste]

I wonder how many dealers actually bothered to stamp.  Flat rate=fix it fast and get to the next one.

[5hunert]

Interesting, both the body tag and build sheet show C21 Buddy Seat but it appears to have a C16 center console.  Any guesses why?

[Ghoste]

Swapped out during the restoration.

[WB General Lee]

Recently the matching motor appeared on Facebook. The person was trying to reunite the car with it. Not sure what the outcome will be as the car is supposed to have a matching #s block already in it.

[Mopar Nut]

The car is listed near me today.

[held1823]

The car is listed near me today.

that listing will get someone scammed

[alfaitalia]

I thing a man of his experience knows that. If its not Ill have two at that price please!.....even in that vomit (or should that be Kermit!) inducing colour.