is this vin correct

[ht4spd307]

xp29m9b210635 as its coming up as a 440 3x 2 barrel special order

[Mytur Binsdirti]

How about XP29H9B?

[ht4spd307]

thats what my thought was when my mate sent the bad photo only thing thats threw me is its an original 4 speed sure grip rear would this be normal for a 383

[bakerhillpins]

Must be the M in the engine digit that has it coming up as a 6pk 440 car? Only 440 6pk that comes to mind is the A12 Coronet Super Bee which I believe has a M in the VIN.

The XP29 is for a Charger Premium 2 door sports hardtop (not RT), H is 383 4bbl HP, 9 is 69', B is Hamtramck

thats what my thought was when my mate sent the bad photo only thing thats threw me is its an original 4 speed sure grip rear would this be normal for a 383

Yes, you could get a 69 383 car with a sure grip rear and a 4spd.  I don't believe the Axle packages were available in 383 cars though so it would be in an 8.75 rear end, not a Dana. I think you can find this stuff in the dealer periodicals that are online at https://www.hamtramck-historical.com/.

[ht4spd307]

was a 69 charger available with tri carbs or not

[Mytur Binsdirti]

was a 69 charger available with tri carbs or not

[hemi-hampton]

"Must be the M in the engine digit that has it coming up as a 6pk 440 car? Only 440 6pk that comes to mind is the A12 Coronet Super Bee which I believe has a M in the VIN."



Bakerhillpins, Don't forget 69 1/2 Roadrunner. The only other car to come with that 6 pak option in 69. No Charger came with that option in 69. With the very bad pic I'm guessing it's a H or a factory mistake if M.LEON.

[440 Fanatic]

Were any Chargers ever offered with a 3-2BBL option?   I might be wrong,  but I don't think they were.

[Bronzedodge]

No six packs in '69, but they made a bunch in 70.

[Ghoste]

And 71.  A couple snuck out in 72.  Also, there were two axle packages available for the 484 with a four speed.  A 3.55 one and a 3.91 version and each included Sure Grip pllus a few other features.  Codes were A36 and A31 respectively.

[bakerhillpins]

Bakerhillpins, Don't forget 69 1/2 Roadrunner. The only other car to come with that 6 pak option in 69. No Charger came with that option in 69. With the very bad pic I'm guessing it's a H or a factory mistake if M.LEON.

  I did forget that one.

[ht4spd307]

i'll try and get a better picture tomorrow.so if it is an M its a typo

[maxwellwedge]

"Must be the M in the engine digit that has it coming up as a 6pk 440 car? Only 440 6pk that comes to mind is the A12 Coronet Super Bee which I believe has a M in the VIN."



Bakerhillpins, Don't forget 69 1/2 Roadrunner. The only other car to come with that 6 pak option in 69. No Charger came with that option in 69. With the very bad pic I'm guessing it's a H or a factory mistake if M.LEON.

And the M Code Darts and Barracuda's. They were 440-4

[maxwellwedge]

i'll try and get a better picture tomorrow.so if it is an M its a typo

Definitely an H

[birdsandbees]

I'm with maxwell, that is definitely a ma mopar H.

[ht4spd307]

verified it is a H

[ht4spd307]

The diff

[Alaskan_TA]

Were any Chargers ever offered with a 3-2BBL option?   I might be wrong,  but I don't think they were.

Yes.

Here is a link to the page that shows it for 1969 - http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/images/dealerships/DealershipDataBook/1969/69_Charger0011.jpg

[BLK 68 R/T]

The diff

Dana 60

[BLK 68 R/T]

Were any Chargers ever offered with a 3-2BBL option?   I might be wrong,  but I don't think they were.

Yes.

Here is a link to the page that shows it for 1969 - http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/images/dealerships/DealershipDataBook/1969/69_Charger0011.jpg

Not on chargers though for 1969.

[6bblgt]

Were any Chargers ever offered with a 3-2BBL option?   I might be wrong,  but I don't think they were.

Yes.

Here is a link to the page that shows it for 1969 - http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/images/dealerships/DealershipDataBook/1969/69_Charger0011.jpg

did you read the question correctly or what engine on that page has 3-2bbls?  

[ht4spd307]

common combo 383 4 speed dana rear ?

[Mytur Binsdirti]

common combo 383 4 speed dana rear ?

No such animal from the factory. What you simply have is a 383 4 barrel car that someone stuck a Dana in. That's it, case closed.

[hemi68charger]

common combo 383 4 speed dana rear ?

No such animal from the factory. What you simply have is a 383 4 barrel car that someone stuck a Dana in. That's it, case closed.

totally agree...

[ht4spd307]

the car is totally unmolested but totally rusted out every thing in the car looks original

[ht4spd307]

inside 4 speed air con car wrong seats

[ht4spd307]

this car was dragged out of the earth

[ht4spd307]

outside

[Mytur Binsdirti]

Most likely, it was originally an automatic.

Judging by those pictures, I'd say the rear end is worth more than the rust it's attached to.

[Alaskan_TA]

I see a 4-speed hump, but yeah, parts car at best.

Start with the Dana & save any small parts that are good & then off to the crusher for the rest.

[ht4spd307]

original 4 speed car not convinced about the diff as the  dana looks to be same patina as the rear of the car

[hemi-hampton]

original 4 speed car not convinced about the diff as the  dana looks to be same patina as the rear of the car

What does the Fender tag say,Let me guess, no fender tag, no broadcast sheet & no window Sticker. Does it have a Title or any other Paper work? LEON.

[hemi-hampton]

I see a 4-speed hump, but yeah, parts car at best.

Start with the Dana & save any small parts that are good & then off to the crusher for the rest.

I agree 100%, except I've seen people in here try to Restore worse cars.  LEON.

[hemigeno]

original 4 speed car not convinced about the diff as the  dana looks to be same patina as the rear of the car

Those rear springs are not from an R/T (795 / 965).  There also doesn't appear to be a vapor return line.

That axle might have been installed in this car for a long time, but that clock didn't start at Hamtramck.  Dana's were paired (by Chrysler, in passenger cars) only with a 440 or 426, never the 383.  Even if it WAS an R/T - which it is not - you could not get A/C and a Dana60 together (at least in '69).

[Alaskan_TA]

Which brings up another question.

Do the body numbers match the VIN?

If the Dana is original to the car, the VIN is not original to the body, so which is it?

[ht4spd307]

Tags are on the car but option tag is rusty unreadable  its not an r/t as stated on the first post its a xp not xs car its an a/c 4 speed car originally .like i said the vin tag reads H not M as first thought .Just trying to clear this up for the uneducated potential buyer .As its the dana that was throwing me as it looked original to the car being 4 speed and originally thinking it was a M code on the dash tag made the car seem something special. This is why the questions were being asked not because i'm trying to make up something thats not! I'm not the owner nor the seller but thanks all for your input  i'll let the potential buyer know.

[Alaskan_TA]

The Dana should have a date code on the passenger side rear of the axle tube along with a BOM number (Bill of Materials) & they are application specific.

If you can find that set of stamped numbers & post a clear photo it would help us tell you what it may have originally came from.

[Mytur Binsdirti]

original 4 speed car not convinced about the diff as the  dana looks to be same patina as the rear of the car

By your own admission, "the car was dragged out of the earth" which mean that it was put out to pasture years ago.  It's a 49 year old car with an equally as old rear end that someone swapped out at some time in it's life, so yeah, the "patina" would be the same.

[bakerhillpins]

Tags are on the car but option tag is rusty unreadable 

In some situations you can remove the fender tag and make a rubbing from the underside and get readable (although a mirror image) copy of it. load the digital image onto a PC image program and mirror it back to normal.

[rarefish]

Were any Chargers ever offered with a 3-2BBL option?   I might be wrong,  but I don't think they were.

Yes.

Here is a link to the page that shows it for 1969 - http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/images/dealerships/DealershipDataBook/1969/69_Charger0011.jpg

Barry, I'm baffled by this. I don't see a 3-2BBL option on the 1969 Data Book page that you posted. Were you thinking a 383-2BBL ?

[Alaskan_TA]

I miss-read it sorry.

None of the 1969 data books have a 440-6 option listed since it came out after the data books were printed.

It was only available on the Road Runner & Super Bee when it came out though.