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wheel question and raisin rear question

Started by Bandit72, May 06, 2006, 12:24:53 PM

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Bandit72

i'm wanting to get more of an "old school" hotrod look out of my 72 charger and i have afew questions...1 what is the widest police rim available (those black steel slotted rims that came on alot of cudas), 2. What is the widest tire/rim combo i can fit under the back (15 inch rims, big meaty tires) 3. What is the best way to raise the rear end up an inch or two (my buddy has some 1 1/2 inch lift blocks he said i could have if i wanted them, but i've also heard of longer shackles and air shocks)...any help is appreciated

thanks

later  :icon_smile_cool:
Daddy ran whiskey in a big black dodge
bought it at an auction at the masons lodge,
Johnson County Sherriff painted on the side,
just shot a coat of primer then he looked inside,
well him and my uncle tore that engine down,
I still remember that rumblin' sound.....

Steve P.

Air shocks, shackles, coil over helper shocks all SUCK.. They will do more harm than good.  Lift blocks only work if your axle is UNDER your springs. Yours should not be. If it was you would be 3 inches higher now..

First figure out what you want from your car and will the car handle what you want it to do.. Raising the rear puts more weight on the front. That's NOT a good thing. Also doing this will change the cars driving characteristics. Traction will go to hell as well as cornering. That's why 99.9% of muscle cars do not sit high in the sky out back.
Steve P.
Holiday, Florida

Bandit72

i'm not necessarily looking for sky high in the back, just higher than the front..

(edit) like this car, this is exactly what i'm looking for
Daddy ran whiskey in a big black dodge
bought it at an auction at the masons lodge,
Johnson County Sherriff painted on the side,
just shot a coat of primer then he looked inside,
well him and my uncle tore that engine down,
I still remember that rumblin' sound.....

terrible one

Looks like that car just has some 2" or so longer spring hangers in the back.

Steve P.

Steve P.
Holiday, Florida

mikepmcs

Quote from: Bandit72 on May 07, 2006, 12:45:16 PM
i'm not necessarily looking for sky high in the back, just higher than the front..

(edit) like this car, this is exactly what i'm looking for

that thing is beeeeefy!!!
Life isn't Father Knows Best anymore, it's a kick in the face on a saturday night with a steel toed grip kodiak work boot and a trip to the hospital all bloodied and bashed.....for reconstructive surgery. But, what doesn't kill us, makes us stronger, right?

Bandit72

Quote from: terrible one on May 07, 2006, 01:54:37 PM
Looks like that car just has some 2" or so longer spring hangers in the back.

where can i get longer hangers?

later  :icon_smile_cool:
Daddy ran whiskey in a big black dodge
bought it at an auction at the masons lodge,
Johnson County Sherriff painted on the side,
just shot a coat of primer then he looked inside,
well him and my uncle tore that engine down,
I still remember that rumblin' sound.....

8WHEELER

Quote from: Bandit72 on May 07, 2006, 08:03:52 PM
Quote from: terrible one on May 07, 2006, 01:54:37 PM
Looks like that car just has some 2" or so longer spring hangers in the back. :Twocents:

where can i get longer hangers?

laterĀ  :icon_smile_cool:


I wish they did not make longer rear hangers, they just ark the rear part of the spring making it flat,
and makes the car handle poorly. If you use a 6in hanger it will only raise the car one to two inch's.
I like big tires that fit in the wheel wells my   :Twocents:

Dan
74 Dart Sport 360, just for added fun.

Steve P.

Steve P.
Holiday, Florida

Bandit72

Quote from: 8WHEELER on May 07, 2006, 09:29:20 PM
Quote from: Bandit72 on May 07, 2006, 08:03:52 PM
Quote from: terrible one on May 07, 2006, 01:54:37 PM
Looks like that car just has some 2" or so longer spring hangers in the back. :Twocents:

where can i get longer hangers?

later  :icon_smile_cool:


I wish they did not make longer rear hangers, they just ark the rear part of the spring making it flat,
and makes the car handle poorly. If you use a 6in hanger it will only raise the car one to two inch's.
I like big tires that fit in the wheel wells my   :Twocents:

Dan

then what other options are there? you guys have eliminated, shocks, blocks, and shackles, and there is no way i can afford to get my leaf springs re-arched or anything like that
Daddy ran whiskey in a big black dodge
bought it at an auction at the masons lodge,
Johnson County Sherriff painted on the side,
just shot a coat of primer then he looked inside,
well him and my uncle tore that engine down,
I still remember that rumblin' sound.....

8WHEELER

I use lowering blocks on my red 68 and have never had a problem. If you use blocks to raise the car, make
sure its not more than 2in, if so you will run into pinion angle problems.

Dan
74 Dart Sport 360, just for added fun.

Bandit72

Quote from: 8WHEELER on May 08, 2006, 10:40:50 PM
I use lowering blocks on my red 68 and have never had a problem. If you use blocks to raise the car, make
sure its not more than 2in, if so you will run into pinion angle problems.

Dan

except it's like steve said earlier and i failed to realize when the idea rolled through my head, i would have to have the springs on top of the axel for blocks to work....hmmm i'll keep pondering on it for awhile, i might still end up with the shackles until i can afford some taller springs, which i plan to do in a year anyway

later  :icon_smile_cool:
Daddy ran whiskey in a big black dodge
bought it at an auction at the masons lodge,
Johnson County Sherriff painted on the side,
just shot a coat of primer then he looked inside,
well him and my uncle tore that engine down,
I still remember that rumblin' sound.....

74Charger

Quote from: terrible one on May 07, 2006, 01:54:37 PM
Looks like that car just has some 2" or so longer spring hangers in the back.

I would bet that those shackles have an overall length of 8-10".  My car came with the longer shackles on it.  It will do for now.  Until I figure out what exactly I want to with the car.  I kinda like the stance for now.  But to each his own.   
74' Charger
03' 2500 4x4 CTD

deputycrawford

You haven't shown us a picture of your car yet. You might just have weak springs and the shackles will make them much worse. If you must use shackles then get these.http://www.magnumhp.com/drivesusp.php
scroll down until you see the adjustable shackles. I use them with my new X/HD  R/T springs from Manciniracing.com The combo works well. I had them at the center(stock) height until I put on my Drag Radials. The 28" tall tires liked the highest setting. Remember that I am also using new springs. The shackles will make bad springs bend backward. A disaster waiting to happen.
If it ain't wide open; it ain't running.        Rule number one in motocross racing: Pin it; row the gear box; and wait until you hit something.     At work my motto is: If you need me, call someone else.

Bandit72

it's not that my springs are worn out, they still have plenty of arch to them and it still rides fine. Like i said before i'm just looking for more of a "hot rod" of the 70's look

later  :icon_smile_cool:
Daddy ran whiskey in a big black dodge
bought it at an auction at the masons lodge,
Johnson County Sherriff painted on the side,
just shot a coat of primer then he looked inside,
well him and my uncle tore that engine down,
I still remember that rumblin' sound.....

deputycrawford

Ok, then. Go for the MagnumHP adjustable shackles as I did. Like I said, I did it to set a certain ride height for my rear tires. I am happy with my purchase.
If it ain't wide open; it ain't running.        Rule number one in motocross racing: Pin it; row the gear box; and wait until you hit something.     At work my motto is: If you need me, call someone else.