1969 Hemi Charger 500 getting restoration

[Magnumcharger]

This car is being restored at Joey's place in Edmonton Alberta.
As you can see....it's getting the works!

[Ghoste]

Whoohoo!  One more gets preserved.   Any more pics?  Before shots maybe?

[moparfied]

Now thats taking it all the way down!

[tan top]

Whoohoo!  One more gets preserved.   Any more pics?  Before shots maybe?

any idea what the original color is.

[Magnumcharger]

No idea what the original color was, but it was lime green when it was bought on Ebay last fall...

[hemi68charger]

Man !! That'll be sweet.....

[tan top]

No idea what the original color was, but it was lime green when it was bought on Ebay last fall...

   yeah i remember that  C500 now , on ebay , hemi 500 

[moparfied]

The body didn\'t look like it needed that much work in the before picture. That just goes to show you,that you don\'t know what you have until you strip them completly!

[69_500]

So that is the one that was on Ebay? If it is then it is a pretty early production 500. It is the in the first batch or so, because it is prior to any 440 powered 500's that I have information on. The first 25 or so 500's I have are all HEMI's.

[moparfied]

Thats a lot of metal work there,its definatly a worthy car though. the window plug looks ok.

[PocketThunder]

    awe man, i wonder how much that body work will cost...?  ....??

[moparfied]

I do not think they can get hurt on this one being a Hemicar,but a 440 car needing that much work could be risky! Their not pulling anywhere near what the other Mopar aero cars are!

[maxwellwedge]

This car is being restored at Joey's place in Edmonton Alberta.
As you can see....it's getting the works!

I used to own that car. It is an F8 4-speed 4.10. I can't tell you why they would hack the quarters off - it was a very solid car when I sold it 3-4 years ago. Tranny matched - motor long gone. No sheet - just the original fender tag. I bought it out of Escanaba Michigan along with a white, 4-speed 440 Daytona. Had to sell - too many projects! Sold the pair to a guy in Quebec. I have the fender tag info attached.....At least it's getting done!

[moparfied]

I was kind of shocked,when I saw the before pictures,it did not look to me like it needed that much metal work. I expected to see a real rust bucket,that was pulled out of the woods! Maybe they dipped it,and a lot less car came out of the tank,than went in! I bet you wish you still owned those two cars!

[hemigeno]

This car is being restored at Joey's place in Edmonton Alberta.
As you can see....it's getting the works!

I used to own that car. It is an F8 4-speed 4.10. I can't tell you why they would hack the quarters off - it was a very solid car when I sold it 3-4 years ago. Tranny matched - motor long gone. No sheet - just the original fender tag. I bought it out of Escanaba Michigan along with a white, 4-speed 440 Daytona. Had to sell - too many projects! Sold the pair to a guy in Quebec. I have the fender tag info attached.....At least it's getting done!

Maxwell,

Do you still have any fender tag or other info from the Daytona?

BTW, welcome to the site, and to the Aero forum!!!



Geno

[nascarxx29]

The white daytona Maxwell mentions sounds like a car from Fred Mcnally of MI once owned 410786.

[maxwellwedge]

"Maxwell,

Do you still have any fender tag or other info from the Daytona?

BTW, welcome to the site, and to the Aero forum!!"

Hi hemigeno,
Glad to be aboard!
F-tag attached.

nascarxx29,
Yes - I bought both cars from Fred - the daytona is being restored by the people that bought the two from me - there is a link to it - I'll have to find it and post later. They changed the gut from black to red - it is looking good though. Both cars had matching tranny's but no motors. The Daytona had 2 build sheets, the 500 only had the original f-tag.
I also had one of the two SE Daytona's sold new from the same dealership in BC. Mine was 665 - the other was 666 - tag attached.

[hemigeno]

Maxwell,

Thanks for posting that info!!!!

I had seen the 665 car on the Canadian Cars in Barns website, and it's neat to see you on the site here.  Whatever became of that car? 

[maxwellwedge]

Maxwell,

Thanks for posting that info!!!!

I had seen the 665 car on the Canadian Cars in Barns website, and it's neat to see you on the site here.  Whatever became of that car? 

I sold it to a local fellow - He did a resto and still has it. I have not seen it since he did it. Someone told me on the weekend he wanted to contact me....I guess I'm going to see it shortly. I should of kept all three  They all had the same problem though - all needed a resto and all had the original trans but not the motors. That stuff mattered to me more then. I just picked up a nice original paint 6 BBL Bird though. Still looking for a nice 4-speed Daytona.

[Shakey]

This car is being restored at Joey's place in Edmonton Alberta.
As you can see....it's getting the works!

In this link, there is another link to more photos.

Cool stuff.

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,8775.0.html

[hemi68charger]

Maxwell,

Thanks for posting that info!!!!

I had seen the 665 car on the Canadian Cars in Barns website, and it's neat to see you on the site here.  Whatever became of that car? 

I sold it to a local fellow - He did a resto and still has it. I have not seen it since he did it. Someone told me on the weekend he wanted to contact me....I guess I'm going to see it shortly. I should of kept all three  They all had the same problem though - all needed a resto and all had the original trans but not the motors. That stuff mattered to me more then. I just picked up a nice original paint 6 BBL Bird though. Still looking for a nice 4-speed Daytona.

Hey maxwellwedge !!!!

You don't know anyone who would be wishing to get their hands on an original '68 Hemi Charger R/T project for a swap on a Daytona project?

Geno, sorry for the plug... 

Troy

[hemigeno]

Geno, sorry for the plug... 

Hey, if it gets you into a Daytona, I'll let it slide...   

[moparfied]

That red Daytona looks like its all there, I would love to have that car.

[maxwellwedge]

Hey maxwellwedge !!!!

You don't know anyone who would be wishing to get their hands on an original '68 Hemi Charger R/T project for a swap on a Daytona project?

Geno, sorry for the plug... 

Troy

I tried to trade my Hemi Charger for one last year.....No luck. Here are some pics of the pair - I had them sitting outdoors (under a canopy) in a corner of Roger Gibson's shop grounds while I was trying to decide what to do with them. Obviously the wing was removed (would not fit on the transport truck), the fenders were sent to Redi-Strip and the nose was taken off to assess the innards. Should have kept the pair!!!

[hemi68charger]

Hey maxwellwedge !!!!

You don't know anyone who would be wishing to get their hands on an original '68 Hemi Charger R/T project for a swap on a Daytona project?

Geno, sorry for the plug... 

Troy

I tried to trade my Hemi Charger for one last year.....No luck. Here are some pics of the pair - I had them sitting outdoors (under a canopy) in a corner of Roger Gibson's shop grounds while I was trying to decide what to do with them. Obviously the wing was removed (would not fit on the transport truck), the fenders were sent to Redi-Strip and the nose was taken off to assess the innards. Should have kept the pair!!!

Oh my Gosh !!!  That's my dream.. To have two Aero-Dodges...... And we all now which two those are.....

Troy

[69_500]

Welcome to the site, and sorry to hear that you had to let a few cool Mopars go.

Hopefully in the long run you'll find that 4 speed Daytona you want. I am also on the search for one of those. I think everyone who wants one is still looking for one, while people with the money have them all.

[hemigeno]

while people with the money have them all.

You must have me confused with someone else...  Maybe that's why my car is still in pieces after 3+ years?

[moparfied]

Welcome Maxwell,you have had some really cool cars. When I see pictures of that 500,the car looks real solid,I cannot belive the cut all the sheet metal off it. What do you have for cars now?

[johntpr]

What was I thinking when I didn't buy them years ago Maxwellwedge?. It's Roger's fault !

[69_500]

Gene I wasn't pointing my comment at you or at Dave, or at John, or anyone that i know personally. Just a genralization. To the people who buying them now. Not all of the people who are buying them now are, but I'd say the majority is.

I guess generalizations aren't good, well I shouldn't say guess, as I know any kinds of stereotypes aren't good.

[Ghoste]

 I don't think there are any more rabid aero car fans than you so I'd think a little slack is due. 

[hemigeno]

Oh, coming from Danny I definitely didn't take that comment too seriously.  I doubt that anyone else on here did either, but I couldn't resist having a little fun.. 

[Ghoste]

I was being a little tongue in cheek myself.  It's easy to gather that most of you folks already know each other.

[69_500]

tongue in cheek? Hmmm, I tend to let mine hang out a lot when thinking about aero cars. My wife says I talk about them more than anything else.

Anyone else already going crazy waiting on the Cars movie to come out? I've already bought my son 9 books about the movie. As well as hats, and t shirts, and even a set of shoes with the Superbird on them.

[Ghoste]

Not crazy but I am looking forward to it.  Finally there'll be a car movie the family will watch with me.  They likely thought the same thing about the Love Bug remake but after Lindsay Lohan passed on the Charger for the VW, I left them to watch the rest on their own.

[69_500]

I didn't even try to watch the Love Bug movie, but I'm going to definately see the Cars movie. Bought my boy 2 more books this morning for the movie. These have magnets in the shapes of the characters in the movie. So now he has a Superbird magnet, and a magnadoodle that has a superbird on it.

[runninhorn]

This car is being restored at Joey's place in Edmonton Alberta.
As you can see....it's getting the works!

how much does a restoration like that cost?

[hemigeno]

This car is being restored at Joey's place in Edmonton Alberta.
As you can see....it's getting the works!

how much does a restoration like that cost?

An average shop hourly rate is between $35 and $40 / hour (sometimes much more, depending on where you're at), so it adds up fast.  Plus parts, materials, and subcontracted detail/finish work.  It all depends on the car's condition to start with, how many parts can be re-used or refurbished, and to what level the car is restored.  IMHO, too many variables for a simple answer, sorry.

[69_500]

To give a ball park figure, I'd say around $75-85,000. Just a simple guess. But like Gene said it all depends on variables, like amounts of body work, the actual shop doing the work. How much of it is farmed out to another shop, and how many parts can just be cleaned up and reused.

[Ghoste]

I was going to say you wouldn't get change back from a 100,000 dollar bill but it depends on the shop too.

[69_500]

I would say you would drop $100K if it was at Aloha or at maybe Totally Auto or Roger Gibson. But there are some other places that do top shelf work too, that aren't that pricey.

[Ghoste]

I was thinking of RM as an example but they are to pre-war classics what Gibson is to Mopar musclecars.  You win a few ribbons at Pebble Beach or the Mopar Nationals and people start banging on the door.

[69_500]

There are some smaller restoration shops that are doing incredible jobs on these cars too. If I had the money to restore my 500 I can only think of a few places that I'd want to do the work. However I do have some money but rather than restore this car to OEM specs I'm looking for another car instead.

[Ghoste]

Oh I agree 100% and I wasn't bragging the other places up so much as pointing out that the price rises with national recognition.  It doesn't mean they are actually any better obviously, just better known.

[69_500]

To me it does mean they are good though. If a place is nationally recognized that means they have done excellent work in the past that has garnered some recognition at a national stage. Which sometimes its like my dad always said 'you get what you pay for". Sometimes its just a name your paying for, other times its quality work.

[nascarxx29]

That rough 69 Hemi 500 at Carlisle 133983.This Hemi 500 133981
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,8736.msg1227940.html#msg1227940

[69_500]

That rough 69 Hemi 500 at Carlisle 133983.This Hemi 500 133981
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,8736.msg1227940.html#msg1227940

What are you trying to compare on those two cars Dave? Other than both being Hemi cars that were at Carlisle on various years.

[nascarxx29]

Similar in color both came from MI area near close vins.Pure coincedence .Maybe same dealer