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fender tags where to get one?

Started by socalcharger, April 28, 2018, 04:04:43 PM

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socalcharger

wheres a good place to get repop fender tags from? without all the BS

69CoronetRT

Quote from: socalcharger on April 28, 2018, 04:04:43 PM
wheres a good places to get repop fender tags from? without all the BS

Good as in made of metal with two holes and some codes or good as in accurate?

A lot of vendors will sell you a bad one. It up to you to make an accurate one.
Seeking information on '69 St. Louis plant VINs, SPDs and VONs. Buld sheets and tag pictures appreciated. Over 3,000 on file thanks to people like you.

green69rt

I have no info on these folks, good or bad, just have them in my list of vendors.

http://www.datatags.com/

69CoronetRT

Quote from: green69rt on April 28, 2018, 08:19:52 PM
I have no info on these folks, good or bad, just have them in my list of vendors.

http://www.datatags.com/

He's the one that made the bad tag on my car for a previous owner.
Seeking information on '69 St. Louis plant VINs, SPDs and VONs. Buld sheets and tag pictures appreciated. Over 3,000 on file thanks to people like you.

green69rt

That's disappointing, that's the only source I have.

kent


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He's the one that made the bad tag on my car for a previous owner.
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Bad tag means a juiced up tag? Wrong made up codes??
Kent

69CoronetRT

Quote from: kent on April 29, 2018, 02:22:56 PM


He's the one that made the bad tag on my car for a previous owner.
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Bad tag means a juiced up tag? Wrong made up codes??
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Codes that shouldn't be on there and codes for items that didn't come on the car. I was new and dumb. 16 years and looking at 1,000s of tags later, I'm a little smarter but some tag makers aren't. The still take money and put out bad tags.

People wouldn't accept such poor quality on other reproduction parts but they still shell out good money for bad tags

Seeking information on '69 St. Louis plant VINs, SPDs and VONs. Buld sheets and tag pictures appreciated. Over 3,000 on file thanks to people like you.

kent

Thanks for the reply 69CoronetRT. 
Same old story. Original owner took the tag off and misplaced it, and I have the wrong build sheet.  I'm the second owner of a 23k mile 70 Charger 500 with just a few options.  Would love to get a fender tag but no way of proving what the car originally had. And I have been at this long enough that I would sooner have no tag than a fake one. I wish they would have kept the records.
Thanks again.
Kent

69CoronetRT

Quote from: kent on April 29, 2018, 05:18:15 PM
Thanks for the reply 69CoronetRT. 
Same old story. Original owner took the tag off and misplaced it, and I have the wrong build sheet.  I'm the second owner of a 23k mile 70 Charger 500 with just a few options.  Would love to get a fender tag but no way of proving what the car originally had. And I have been at this long enough that I would sooner have no tag than a fake one. I wish they would have kept the records.
Thanks again.

I know. I have the same situation; no documentation.

Sometimes none is better than bad. Bad may bring up questions you don't want asked.
Seeking information on '69 St. Louis plant VINs, SPDs and VONs. Buld sheets and tag pictures appreciated. Over 3,000 on file thanks to people like you.

Ghoste


orange383

The tag is missing on my car also. Apparently the previous owners brother took it off when working on the car and put it his tool box for safe keeping.
There was a guy in my car club that sells classic cars that lives just round the corner from the previous owner and knew him. I asked if he would enquire about the tag next time he saw him. He wanted paying and knowing it wouldn't be cheap and I had no money left after buying the car and being made redundant I didn't pursue it any further. That was 9yrs ago now so little chance of getting hold of it now.

I still have my Charger though which is the main thing. But it is slightly annoying knowing it could still be out there somewhere.

CRW-FK5

Quote from: 69CoronetRT on April 28, 2018, 09:45:33 PM
Quote from: green69rt on April 28, 2018, 08:19:52 PM
I have no info on these folks, good or bad, just have them in my list of vendors.

http://www.datatags.com/

He's the one that made the bad tag on my car for a previous owner.
Bad as in not made of metal with 2 holes in it or bad as in inaccurate?


Y1CHARGER

When that happens, I'd say you need to blame the person who ordered it more than the person who made it.  The person who ordered it could have given false documents, etc. and it's not the fault of the tag guy to have believed and trusted the customer.   :Twocents:

69CoronetRT

Quote from: Y1CHARGER on May 01, 2018, 04:20:02 PM
When that happens, I'd say you need to blame the person who ordered it more than the person who made it.  The person who ordered it could have given false documents, etc. and it's not the fault of the tag guy to have believed and trusted the customer.   :Twocents:

Maybe....

If I offer my services to provide widgets, I need to have at lease some minimal level of proficiency in making widgets.

If I offer my services to make fender tags, I have to at least have some level of proficiency in knowing layouts and proper coding. After that, if I rely on the customer, then I am absolved of some liability, but if someone hires me to make a 69 LR tag but I lay it out like a 69 StL tag, then I have probably violated implied warranty of fitness. The product provided to the customer does not meet at least minimal standards of fitness for application.

The responsibility goes both ways.

Implied Warranty of Fitness

Some purchases come with what is called an implied warranty of fitness. This means that a product is guaranteed for a specific purpose, beyond the lower threshold of merchantability. So if you asked a salesperson to recommend a blender specifically for making frozen cocktails, but the one that's recommended turns out to not have enough power to crush ice cubes, then you may return the item under its implied warranty of fitness.

That means sales of consumer goods that work perfectly fine, just not for the customer's planned and stated use, may breach an implied warranty of fitness. The warranty usually is implied through the salesperson's assurance or recommendation of an item for a specific purpose.
Seeking information on '69 St. Louis plant VINs, SPDs and VONs. Buld sheets and tag pictures appreciated. Over 3,000 on file thanks to people like you.

Alaskan_TA

Quote from: Y1CHARGER on May 01, 2018, 04:20:02 PM
When that happens, I'd say you need to blame the person who ordered it more than the person who made it.  The person who ordered it could have given false documents, etc. and it's not the fault of the tag guy to have believed and trusted the customer.   :Twocents:

If all the fake tag makers did not offer their services to make fake tags, then the customers that wanted fake tags would have no where to go.  :Twocents:


69CoronetRT

Quote from: CRW-FK5 on May 01, 2018, 09:52:55 AM
Quote from: 69CoronetRT on April 28, 2018, 09:45:33 PM
Quote from: green69rt on April 28, 2018, 08:19:52 PM
I have no info on these folks, good or bad, just have them in my list of vendors.

http://www.datatags.com/

He's the one that made the bad tag on my car for a previous owner.
Bad as in not made of metal with 2 holes in it or bad as in inaccurate?



See post 6.
Seeking information on '69 St. Louis plant VINs, SPDs and VONs. Buld sheets and tag pictures appreciated. Over 3,000 on file thanks to people like you.

Challenger340

Quote from: socalcharger on April 28, 2018, 04:04:43 PM
wheres a good place to get repop fender tags from? without all the BS

Can you please define "without all the BS" ?
Only wimps wear Bowties !

green69rt

So, is there any hope of getting a good tag?  Or should I just use my old, beat up, rusted tag?

Y1CHARGER

Quote from: green69rt on April 28, 2018, 08:19:52 PM
I have no info on these folks, good or bad, just have them in my list of vendors.

http://www.datatags.com/
This company will do a great job duplicating what you have, contact them and you'll probably send them a pencil rubbing or a picture of your tag and you will get a nice product in return.  The problems come from the people that provide false info to the tag company and then others blame the tag company and not the person who actually created the fraud.

69CoronetRT

Quote from: Y1CHARGER on January 23, 2019, 07:47:04 PM
Quote from: green69rt on April 28, 2018, 08:19:52 PM
I have no info on these folks, good or bad, just have them in my list of vendors.

http://www.datatags.com/
This company will do a great job duplicating what you have, contact them and you'll probably send them a pencil rubbing or a picture of your tag and you will get a nice product in return.  The problems come from the people that provide false info to the tag company and then others blame the tag company and not the person who actually created the fraud.

See post 6. They made my tag without supporting documentation. They made my tag with errors meaning they didn't know what was or wasn't supposed to be on the tag.

The person that creates the fraud is the tag maker as they blindly and willingly take money to make known bad tags. The customer cannot make the tag ergo they can't commit the fraud.

Don't hide behind the "well the customer said..." crap. You either make a legit documented accurate tag or you make a fraud. There is no gray area wiggle room.
Seeking information on '69 St. Louis plant VINs, SPDs and VONs. Buld sheets and tag pictures appreciated. Over 3,000 on file thanks to people like you.

Y1CHARGER

Quote from: 69CoronetRT on January 24, 2019, 12:47:17 AM
Quote from: Y1CHARGER on January 23, 2019, 07:47:04 PM
Quote from: green69rt on April 28, 2018, 08:19:52 PM
I have no info on these folks, good or bad, just have them in my list of vendors.

http://www.datatags.com/
This company will do a great job duplicating what you have, contact them and you'll probably send them a pencil rubbing or a picture of your tag and you will get a nice product in return.  The problems come from the people that provide false info to the tag company and then others blame the tag company and not the person who actually created the fraud.

See post 6. They made my tag without supporting documentation. They made my tag with errors meaning they didn't know what was or wasn't supposed to be on the tag.

The person that creates the fraud is the tag maker as they blindly and willingly take money to make known bad tags. The customer cannot make the tag ergo they can't commit the fraud.

Don't hide behind the "well the customer said..." crap. You either make a legit documented accurate tag or you make a fraud. There is no gray area wiggle room.
I can read Thank You, But for the situation at hand, green69rt has a rusty tag that he wants remade, and the company he's asking about will do a great job for him.  If you don't want to use this company, then that's your prerogative, 

maxwellwedge

Quote from: green69rt on January 23, 2019, 06:56:07 PM
So, is there any hope of getting a good tag?  Or should I just use my old, beat up, rusted tag?
If your tag is still totally legible (sometimes flipping it over will show more) and if you want a pristine identical one - that's fine.....as long as you keep your old tag as backup. You can check with Frank Badalson as well....he has a source that makes them too.

green69rt

Quote from: maxwellwedge on January 24, 2019, 02:11:46 PM
Quote from: green69rt on January 23, 2019, 06:56:07 PM
So, is there any hope of getting a good tag?  Or should I just use my old, beat up, rusted tag?
If your tag is still totally legible (sometimes flipping it over will show more) and if you want a pristine identical one - that's fine.....as long as you keep your old tag as backup. You can check with Frank Badalson as well....he has a source that makes them too.

Both tags are in good to fair shape and I could use them.  The dash tag has some rust on the back but the paint on the front is worn off at the ends.  lettering is still very good.  The fender tag is just bent up some and looks like it has about 10 layers of paint.  I could use both with some work, just wondering about new ones.   I will, absolutely, keep them if I get new ones.  I have a book with tags, build sheets, original sales invoice and dealer prep sheet so nothing gets thrown away.  :yesnod:

Oh, and I can read all the codes so I don't need anyone to decode them, just stamp what I tell them.

birdsandbees

Dash tag you can just respray and stencil (ECS has the dry rub). Or as I did, because I f'd up the stencil, taped off the Chrylser logo.. sprayed,, rubbed out the tape line and cleared. Through the window you can't tell.  Fender tag, hit it with paint stripper and see how it looks. If you want a new one use Dave Wise at MMC Detroit LLC. He will want at least a photo of the tag, dash VIN, body stamps and possibly a broadcast sheet copy if you have one. No monkey business from Dave if you can't connect the dots on your car. No extra bogus codes, just what your car came with. Had him do one for my Bird and it was at least 30 emails and proofs back and forth before the tag was manufactured.
1970 'Bird RM23UOA170163
1969 'Bee WM21H9A230241
1969 Dart Swinger LM23P9B190885
1967 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S
1966 Plymouth Satellite HP2 - 9941 original miles
1964 Dodge 440 62422504487

green69rt

Quote from: birdsandbees on January 24, 2019, 03:26:14 PM
Dash tag you can just respray and stencil (ECS has the dry rub). Or as I did, because I f'd up the stencil, taped off the Chrylser logo.. sprayed,, rubbed out the tape line and cleared. Through the window you can't tell.  Fender tag, hit it with paint stripper and see how it looks. If you want a new one use Dave Wise at MMC Detroit LLC. He will want at least a photo of the tag, dash VIN, body stamps and possibly a broadcast sheet copy if you have one. No monkey business from Dave if you can't connect the dots on your car. No extra bogus codes, just what your car came with. Had him do one for my Bird and it was at least 30 emails and proofs back and forth before the tag was manufactured.

Good info.  The rust on my VIN tag is on the back so not visible.  I'm going to try you way.