How rare? 70 Charger, six cylinder, 3 SPD Manual Column

[ricoman97]

Hello All,
I just picked up a 70 Charger a while back and finally got the fender tag picture as it was separated from the car. How rare of a car is this?
BTW, it is no longer in this form. It is an RT Hemi Clone now.
Thanks in advance
Rich

XH29: Dodge Charger High 2 Door Sports Hardtop

C0G: 225 145HP 1-1BBL 6 CYL
1970 St. Louis, MO, USA

186XXX:   Sequence number

E24:    225 cid 1 barrel 6 Cylinder 145hp
D11:    3 Speed Manual Transmission-Column Shift 6 Cyl.
FK5:    Dark Burnt Orange Metallic Exterior Color
C2K4:    Trim - Charger, Vinyl Bench Seat, Burnt Orange
FK5:    Dark Burnt Orange Metallic Int. Door Frames
2O6:    Build Date: February O6
140863:   Order number

FK5:    Dark Burnt Orange Metallic Top Color
A73: 70 only    Special Value Package - XH29 Charger
M21:    Roof drip rail moldings
M31:    Belt Moldings
N95:    Emissions Control

[6bblgt]

per GG's "white book"

XH29C0G with 3-speed manual = 104 built to US spec. 1970 model year

[6bblgt]

& according to the '70 Charger Registry  *  http://1970chargerregistry.com/production.html

of the 181 /6 (225 cu.in.) powered base '70 Chargers (XH29C0G) * 33 of them went to California (N95 emission package)

per the fender tag, the car had no OPTIONs except for the "emission package" which was a requirement for registration in the state of CA

is there a broadcast sheet?

[ricoman97]

There is no broadcast sheet. I was lucky to get the fender tag...
I appreciate your numbers and info.  I had just never heard of such a car especially with literally no options!

It is definitely a California delivered car. I have a copy of the original title delivered in 5/1970 to a gentleman in Sacramento CA.

[Kern Dog]

That is a pretty rare car. Even so, I can understand the way that you went with it. The car is yours to build as you wish.

[AKcharger]

I would say it's among the RAREST of '70's I have only seen ONE 6 cyl charger in person, that was in a junk yard in 1982

[ht4spd307]

Rare but not desirable

[Alaskan_TA]

Desire depends on the person.

I have a 1970 Valiant 4-door with a 3-speed on the floor, I love it!

Ordered new by a girl in Colorado, 318, A230 3-speed, manual steering, HD manual drum brakes, 3.23 8 3/4" with blackwall tires.

It drives like a mini-Road  Runner. 

[69CoronetRT]

That is a pretty rare car. Even so, I can understand the way that you went with it. The car is yours to build as you wish.

It is an RT Hemi Clone now.


I think someone beat him to it.

[bakerhillpins]

Desire depends on the person.

I have a 1970 Valiant 4-door with a 3-speed on the floor, I love it!

Ordered new by a girl in Colorado, 318, A230 3-speed, manual steering, HD manual drum brakes, 3.23 8 3/4" with blackwall tires.

It drives like a mini-Road  Runner. 

I have a soft spot for those cars and would love to own a few of them. 

[Alaskan_TA]

Me too!

I was not having an easy time finding 1970 up D13 info, so I spent months chasing parts, different transmissions down, linkages & all for a future, detailed article on HH.

[Mytur Binsdirti]

Rare but not desirable

Agreed.

I'd say that it's more desirable now as a Hemi clone than in it's original form.

[pipeliner]

Rare but not desirable

Agreed.

I'd say that it's more desirable now as a Hemi clone than in it's original form.

Its not desirable to me. I hate clones of any kind.

[moparstuart]

Rare but not desirable

Agreed.

I'd say that it's more desirable now as a Hemi clone than in it's original form.

Its not desirable to me. I hate clones of any kind.

Haters gonna Hate

[alfaitalia]

Rare but not desirable

Agreed.

I'd say that it's more desirable now as a Hemi clone than in it's original form.

Its not desirable to me. I hate clones of any kind.

Bit harsh friend. Hate is a strong word. I don't own a clone....no particular want to. But there lots of members I have great respect for on here that have created some incredible clones.....some built to a standard that makes them virtually indistinguishable from the real thing. So full respect to that. If I wanted a Daytona etc...a clone would be the only way that I could get close to one....financially that is.....so I don't see anything wrong with that as long as they don't try and pass it off for something it isn't. I would take it very personally if someone said they hated my car after all the work, heart and soul I'm putting into. Having a point of view is cool....a lot on here wont like my car....hate???....not so cool.

[Mytur Binsdirti]

 I hate clones of any kind.

[ricoman97]

Much appreciated everyone!  I bought it as a clone knowing what I was getting into but I did not get the fender tag until 6 months after the purchase.  Once I saw it, I never saw a car like this.  That being said, value is in the eye of the beholder and right now the decision on this car was made long before I got it and there is no way I am taking it back to it.  I am glad this knowledge is now out there that goofy cars like this were made and some saw it to be the perfect clone candidate...
Thanks all.

[Homerr]

Cool car then & now!

[F8-4life]

I bought a original paint 1968 coronet 440 last year...factory 3 on the tree with a 318.
Manual brakes and steering.
Learned to drive a stick in it and really like the car.
If I found a charger like you descibe, I would leave it bone stock.

[fizz]

WOW nice car and color

[69CoronetRT]

Rare but not desirable

Agreed.

I'd say that it's more desirable now as a Hemi clone than in it's original form.

Its not desirable to me. I hate clones of any kind.

Bit harsh friend. Hate is a strong word. I don't own a clone....no particular want to. But there lots of members I have great respect for on here that have created some incredible clones.....some built to a standard that makes them virtually indistinguishable from the real thing. So full respect to that. If I wanted a Daytona etc...a clone would be the only way that I could get close to one....financially that is.....so I don't see anything wrong with that as long as they don't try and pass it off for something it isn't. I would take it very personally if someone said they hated my car after all the work, heart and soul I'm putting into. Having a point of view is cool....a lot on here wont like my car....hate???....not so cool.

Lol....the only reason to build a clone is to pass it off as something it isn't. Otherwise, why build it?

Building for performance was always cool.
Rebadging to impress people was never cool.

[alfaitalia]

Well that's a fair chunk of the membership you've offended...lol! Obviously I meant trying to pass it off as genuine when selling.....and I'm sure no member here would do that. There are not enough of the genuine article to go around so if you want to own something close then a clone is the answer........There are probably way more clone 'birds and Daytonas than the real thing. Also you don't have to worry so much about driving a clone......many of the real thing are just trailer queens now as they are just too expensive and rare to drive in the eyes of many...pity.

I think that if people are honest, whatever car they build , whether it's a rat, DD, or 100 point show car they are just as much building them to impress others than they are to make themselves happy. Or we works not want to own such special cars....can't wait to show mine off !....and proud to say it....cool or not!

[Lennard]

Lol....the only reason to build a clone is to pass it off as something it isn't. Otherwise, why build it?

Building for performance was always cool.
Rebadging to impress people was never cool.

Here we go again...
Some people just don't give a f**k about what other people think is cool. The only thing that matters is that the owner thinks it's cool. I'm cloning/resto modding my '68 into an R/T. Not to impress anyone, not for the extra money that an R/T is worth (I'm keeping it till I die) but because I didn't want to "cut up" a real R/T. When it's going back on the road, it's going to be 100% better than a factory R/T ever was.
Fyi, I also own a real '69 R/Tse.

[DanielRobert]

Hate is a little much when looking at someones car. Gota figure on "to each their own". I used to argue with my car buddies that if I put a Roadrunner hood on a Satellite or a cowl induction hood on a Malibu meant I liked the look. Not a 'clone' whatsoever. Just like if I put dual exhaust with cool factory tips, and the correct valance for it, was for a look that I liked not because I was cloning my rear end look. Fact is, when I was young, I didn't have the money to buy the real thing so I did what I could to get it to look closer to the real thing. I wasn't trying to impress anyone but myself.  Call it a clone or whatever...its just parts. Hell, if I ran into a good deal on a plain jane 72 Charger, I think I'd get rid of that long hood and put a bulge hood on it. And while I'm at it, spring for the machine gun tips and cutout rear valance. Wait, I'm doing this!

[Kern Dog]

Lol....the only reason to build a clone is to pass it off as something it isn't. Otherwise, why build it?

Building for performance was always cool.
Rebadging to impress people was never cool.

This your opinion, not a fact by any measure.
SOME people are secure enough in themselves that they do not care what others think...They wear what they want and build their car to make THEM happy, not to impress others. Clone cars offer a person the ability to own a desireable model at a much cheaper price even though the VIN tells the true identity. I do not "pass off" my car as a true R/T to anyone. If they were to ask me, I always tell the truth. The 500 model of my year did not have stripes, HD suspension, a 440, etc. The R/T badges/emblems just look better to me as well. I don't care if YOU or any other purist likes my car because nobody gave me money to build it their way. Every cent in my car was from my pocket. It is in no way perfect but it is the way that I like it and I will do with it as I want. I feel the same way toward the OP....Sure, a 225 1970 Charger is rare and unusual but it is also a waste to see such a beautiful car pushed around with such a non performance mill.