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Wow is this price really true!

Started by miller, May 01, 2006, 09:31:28 PM

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miller

May 01, 2006, 09:31:28 PM
i was searching nada today and i ran across a price that to me was astonishing...

http://www2.nadaguides.com/default.aspx?LI=1-22-1-5013-0-0-0&l=1&w=22&p=1&f=5014&c=11&m=1052&d=2446&y=1969&s=69515&o=10969&z=00000&da=-1


to think that my little old 318 is worth that makes my heart sing, it shows me that putting all the money i have spent into it (on a highschoolers budget mind you) is worth while!

so do you think this is the true pricing?

2005 Harley Davidson 1200 Sportster Custom - Maggie
2012 370Z NISMO - Courtney
1979 Corvette L-82 - Lilly
1969 Dodge Charger R/T Clone - Vanessa

Dave22443

#1
May 01, 2006, 09:39:58 PM
Holy Smackdown!

I don't think it was very long ago that I looked at mine and it said the high number (I can dream can't I?) was $37,500.  Now its sitting at $43,400  :o

Still won't sell it though  :icon_smile_big:

America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
- Abraham Lincoln

Bandit72

#3
May 01, 2006, 10:02:31 PM
Daddy ran whiskey in a big black dodge
bought it at an auction at the masons lodge,
Johnson County Sherriff painted on the side,
just shot a coat of primer then he looked inside,
well him and my uncle tore that engine down,
I still remember that rumblin' sound.....

Silver R/T

#4
May 01, 2006, 11:30:11 PM
http://www.cardomain.com/id/mitmaks

1968 silver/black/red striped R/T
My Charger is hybrid, it runs on gas and on tears of ricers
2001 Ram 2500 CTD
1993 Mazda MX-3 GS SE
1995 Ford Cobra SVT#2722

BB1

#7
May 02, 2006, 07:09:04 AM
You guys  ::) Don't click on the engine option once you clicked on the car. Your just adding 20% to what already is.

Delete my profile

miller

#8
May 02, 2006, 02:23:32 PM
the reason i added the 440 on mine is because my car is origanly a 318, thus i selected that, but it will shortly have a 440 in it... makes sense doesnt it?

2005 Harley Davidson 1200 Sportster Custom - Maggie
2012 370Z NISMO - Courtney
1979 Corvette L-82 - Lilly
1969 Dodge Charger R/T Clone - Vanessa

73rallye440magnum

#9
May 02, 2006, 07:34:35 PM
I can't see fetching 20-25k for mine once its completed... I think NADA is a little off when it comes to muscle car values. Maybe a little optomistic for sellers and pessimistic for buyers.
WTB- 68 or 69 project

Past- '73 Rallye U code, '69 Coronet 500 vert, '68 Roadrunner clone, XP29H8, XP29G8, XH29G0

BigBlockSam

#10
May 02, 2006, 07:48:18 PM
wow! my 68 r/t is worth $80000. show me the money!
I won't be wronged, I wont be Insulted and I wont be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to others, and I require the same from them.

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TruckDriver

#11
May 02, 2006, 08:41:44 PM
PETE

My Dad taught me about TIME TRAVEL.
"If you don't straighten up, I'm going to knock you into the middle of next week!" :P

THE COLONEL

#12
May 02, 2006, 09:22:00 PM
Here's The Colonel.  If it would go for that............... :o

http://www2.nadaguides.com/default.aspx?LI=1-22-1-5013-0-0-0&l=1&w=22&p=1&f=5014&c=11&m=1052&d=2446&y=1969&s=69515&o=10966|10970&z=00000&da=-1

Well, its not putting in the factory air on the link, but that was another 10% :o
"THE COLONEL....DIFFERENT RANK...SAME ATTITUDE"

89MOPAR

#14
May 03, 2006, 02:41:02 AM
 NADA prices are a bit high , yes ?

AND They are all for RETAIL sale , not private.   

PS- Until you sell your car, it really is something you are just putting money into. Not getting money out of.
77 Ram-Charger SE factory 440 'Macho' package
03 Ram Hemi 4x4 Pickup
Noble M400
72 Satellite Sebring Plus +

CB

#15
May 03, 2006, 11:48:02 AM
Quote from: 89MOPAR on May 03, 2006, 02:41:02 AM
PS- Until you sell your car, it really is something you are just putting money into. Not getting money out of.

yea, that's right... money pit...
1968 Dodge Coronet 500

41husk

#16
May 03, 2006, 01:09:06 PM
That looks good on paper but my cars aint put any money in my pocket they just keep my pockets empty :'(
1969 Dodge Charger 500 440/727
1970 Challenger convertible 340/727
1970 Plymouth Duster FM3
1974 Dodge Dart /6/904
1983 Plymouth Scamp GT 2.2 Auto
1950 Dodge Pilot house pick up

JimShine

#17
May 03, 2006, 01:31:58 PM
Quote from: miller on May 02, 2006, 02:23:32 PM
the reason i added the 440 on mine is because my car is origanly a 318, thus i selected that, but it will shortly have a 440 in it... makes sense doesnt it?

Not really. I believe they are speaking of factory options. I do not understand why they have that selection. But I do not believe that a factory 318 converted to 440 would book that much. It would no doubt be closer to the factory 318 value. maybe a little bit more as it would entice a driver who doesn't have the money for a factory 440 car.

41husk

#18
May 03, 2006, 01:45:25 PM
either way I think there values are a bit on the high side.
1969 Dodge Charger 500 440/727
1970 Challenger convertible 340/727
1970 Plymouth Duster FM3
1974 Dodge Dart /6/904
1983 Plymouth Scamp GT 2.2 Auto
1950 Dodge Pilot house pick up

Mike DC

#19
May 04, 2006, 05:59:38 AM
 
I think a factory 318 with a 440 will be worth about as much as the 318 car plus several thousand bucks for the 440 setup.  No correlation to what a factory R/T is worth in most cases. 

But carefully built factory R/T clones seem to bring more money on average than a decent 318-to-440 street machine clone, even if the street machine clone is mechanically well-done.

 

limey

#20
May 04, 2006, 06:37:06 AM
Well according to this the $20k I've just spent on mine isnt too bad

http://www2.nadaguides.com/default.aspx?LI=1-22-1-5013-0-0-0&l=1&w=22&p=1&f=5014&c=11&m=1052&d=2446&y=1968&s=69470&z=00000&da=-1

Does seem a little high for current US prices though....even though they have been skyrocketing for some time.....
Limey
Put your hand on a hot stove for a minute, and it seems like an hour. Sit with a pretty girl for an hour, and it seems like a minute. THAT'S relativity. -- Albert Einstein

41husk

#21
May 04, 2006, 07:31:45 AM
I would part with either of my cars for those prices.
1969 Dodge Charger 500 440/727
1970 Challenger convertible 340/727
1970 Plymouth Duster FM3
1974 Dodge Dart /6/904
1983 Plymouth Scamp GT 2.2 Auto
1950 Dodge Pilot house pick up

mopar1

#22
May 04, 2006, 08:12:51 AM
Quote from: Silver R/T on May 01, 2006, 11:30:11 PM
not too bad
http://www2.nadaguides.com/default.aspx?LI=1-22-1-5013-0-0-0&l=1&w=22&p=1&f=5014&c=11&m=1052&d=2450&y=1968&s=69473&o=11021&z=99207&da=-1
Shakey I don't want to dissapoint you.I believe you are not supposed to add the engine size as it asked you for that information already.There is something about a default on the top regarding engine displacement.

regards

BB1

#23
May 04, 2006, 10:17:30 AM
Note: Engines listed in parenthesis after model: Do not add for engine in option section. (i.e. 2 Door Sdn (440) - includes the 440 engine.)
:P
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JimShine

#24
May 04, 2006, 11:35:13 AM
Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on May 04, 2006, 05:59:38 AM
 
I think a factory 318 with a 440 will be worth about as much as the 318 car plus several thousand bucks for the 440 setup.  No correlation to what a factory R/T is worth in most cases. 

But carefully built factory R/T clones seem to bring more money on average than a decent 318-to-440 street machine clone, even if the street machine clone is mechanically well-done.

 

I agree with that. But I think to get the clone money it has to be a real clone and have more than a '78 440 dropped in. It needs to have the full treatment. But still, I think the price would still be at best maybe somewhere half way between the 318 and the R/T price points.

rollingthunder

#25
May 04, 2006, 11:44:23 AM
life's to short have a blast before its gone.

694spdRT

#26
May 05, 2006, 08:17:21 AM
I would have to agree with the overall value on mine but, the high retail value is very unlikely. Somewhere in between average and high seems realistic. I don't agree with a 10% increase for an original 4 speed car though....20% to 25% is more accurate.

http://www2.nadaguides.com/default.aspx?LI=1-22-1-5013-0-0-0&l=1&w=22&p=1&f=5014&c=11&m=1052&d=2450&y=1969&s=69525&o=10968&z=00000&da=-1

Adding the engine option on top of the value that already has it included will really throw off your final value. That value is already figured into the base R/T price according to the side note. I don't quite agree with adding 30% for a 440 engine when it was never offered in anything except the R/T so the program must make some consideration for engine transplants.
1968 Charger 383 auto
1969 Charger R/T 440 4 speed
1970 Charger 500 440 auto
1972 Challenger 318
1976 W200 Club Cab 4x4 400 auto 
1978 Ramcharger 360 auto
2001 Durango SLT 4.7L (daily driver)
2005 Ram 2500 4x4 Big Horn Cummins Diesel 6 speed
2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited 5.7 Hemi

Charger_Fan

#28
May 05, 2006, 12:40:06 PM

The Aquamax...yes, this bike spent 2 nights underwater one weekend. (Not my doing), but it gained the name, and has since become pseudo-famous. :)

resq302

#29
May 05, 2006, 01:17:12 PM
Brian
1969 Dodge Charger (factory 4 speed, H code 383 engine,  AACA Senior winner, 2008 Concours d'Elegance participant, 2009 Concours d'Elegance award winner)
1970 Challenger Convert. factory #'s matching red inter. w/ white body.  318 car built 9/28/69 (AACA Senior winner)
1969 Plymough GTX convertible - original sheet metal, #'s matching drivetrain, T3 Honey Bronze, 1 of 701 produced, 1 of 362 with 440 4 bbl - auto

Mike DC

#30
May 05, 2006, 11:44:39 PM
 
Like so many issues with values in the old car hobby, I think we have a certain amount of denial at work. 

A lot of the official sources for values of these cars would rather tell people what the car "should be" worth than the amount that it actually trades for most of the time.  They often take years to acknowledge siesmic shifts in the hobby. 


The great example is the high-quality clones of factory Hemi cars: 
Lately these clones are selling for a lot more than just the combined price of the base model car and the Hemi crate motor in it.  But there are a lot of sources still insisting that only factory muscle cars are worth anything more than the base models. 

 
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