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don't buy cheap stuff....

Started by thallium, August 11, 2005, 10:04:16 PM

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thallium

Lesson for all the younger memebers.   Don't buy cheap stuff. It ends up costing you more time and money than just going out and buying the good stuff the first time.     Today I needed to buy a solder gun. So I went to Pep Boys and bought some chineese solder gun for 22 bucks.   I brought it home and sat there trying to solder some wires together on the charger. It ends up I take the thing back to Pep Boys because the gun does not get hot enough to even melt the solder. I went to Home Depot and bought a Weller solder gun for $8 extra dollars, $30 total and had the part soldered in less than 30 seconds after I got everything set up.

So for the younger crowd, don't waste your time on the cheap crap. You'll end up wasting more time and money in the long run. I know this,   and still sometimes don't even follow from my own life experiences.

IBsmokin

you always get what you pay for, so my moto is; "always try to buy the best!!!!"

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IBsmokin

dont buy cheap welfare sand paper toilet paper just to save a few bucks, buy Chamaine Ultra, and have yourself a soft wiping experience!!!

and use less squares at same the time, and no worries about your finger ripping thru and leaving you with chocolate tips!!!     LOL

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I bought that solder gun that you seen on TV where it is cordless, heats up fast, and within a few seconds is cool enough to touch! Man I have to admit that thing is great! Havent burnt myself yet lol! ::)
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Old Moparz

I have to agree, most of the time you get what you pay for, but sometimes buying something cheap is the better way to go. My first tool chest when I was about 17 was a cheap, $40 POS. When the drawers were filled with tools, the bottom of the drawer sagged & wouldn't open. I eventually ended up with a Craftsman for about $100 that I still have, but have outgrown it ages ago. I shopped for a bigger one, but they were expensive, & I found one that is made in stainless steel from Taiwan. It has double wall construction, roller ball bearing tracks for the drawers, & the welds are ground smooth. This roll-away & top chest weighed over 400 pounds empty .   :o

I found it at Sam's Club for $650, it's 42" wide, & about 60" tall & came with the drawer liners. The closest set up to this at Sears was double the price. I try to avoid Chinese tools, like the 150 piece ratchet set for $9.95, but this tool box was very impressive for the price. I have a few drawers filled completely & they open & close effortlessly. Sam's Club seems to have replaced the 42" one with a 31" now for $550, but I heard Costco has the 42".

Here's what it looks like:
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SirNik73

lol. my friend has that 42" box from costco. and its the nicest tool box I've ever seen. my other friend has a snap-on box and its got scrapes in the paint... but my friend with the stainless... NO PAINT to wreck. there is a difference between cheap and "inexpensive"
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bull

My dad taught me a lesson in buying cheap stuff because he's been buying cheap stuff his whole life and getting burned time after time. You would think he would have learned by the age of 68 but no. He's always been the guy who spends a dollar to save a dime.

I don't always buy the most expensive stuff because I think a lot of that is just a marketing ploy. I typically buy name brand stuff when it comes to tools, like Craftsman or Husky, but I pretty much always avoid the cheapo crap. Ever once in a while I'll wander into Harbor Freight for certain items like air wands or tool bags but 90% of the time their stuff is junk. Why buy a piece of junk three or four times when you could pay for something once and have it last? I'm not interested in making several trips to the store trading in junk for something that works. I'd rather get the project over with.

The only thing I don't like about the stainless boxes I've seen so far is that none of them sit low and wide. They're all stackers, and I like to have an area to work on. I almost bought a Hammerhead box at Costco but the thing was about 5 1/2 feet tall. No place to work. Stainless is hard to get clean too.

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Silver R/T

Quote from: IBsmokin on August 11, 2005, 10:14:02 PM
dont buy cheap welfare sand paper toilet paper just to save a few bucks, buy Chamaine Ultra, and have yourself a soft wiping experience!!!

and use less squares at same the time, and no worries about your finger ripping thru and leaving you with chocolate tips!!!   LOL

or recycle your newspaper, wipe your butt and save yourself money lol
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Brock Samson

 i always avoid the cheap stuff,.. and go straight to the primo stuff,.. then I'll work down... comparing features and reputations, research helps,.. But I'll ask the sales people too.
One problem with them is sometimes they will try to streer you to the slow sellers which languish on the shelves for a reason, that's where the internet comes in,.. sometimes i'll go to the store see what's up, go to competitors and act like i don't know,.. then get on the internet and research the stuff,.. then i go back and make a choice and try to get a deal,..
  It takes a while, but at least i don't feel ripped off and regret my impulsiveness...
  This really pays off on big ticket items, like cars and guitars and furnature.
  kinda fits under the heading,   measure twice, cut once.

Recharger

Quote from: Stratocharger on August 12, 2005, 12:21:34 AM
sometimes i'll go to the store see what's up, go to competitors and act like i don't know,.. then get on the internet and research the stuff,.. then i go back and make a choice and try to get a deal,..

That's a good plan.   I always try to be thorough too, with larger purchases.   I always ask any sales guys a few questions I actually know the answer to before I start asking my real questions.   If I know the guy's full of     :icon_bs:   I just move on, or find a differen't rep.  

Brock Samson

 ya that's allways a good plan,.. when i bought my '99 300 M the idiots said it was a '03 300 M Special, i went thru two salesmen and the manager and wound up embarrassing all three of them, they were so damn ignorant,..
;D

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Charger_Fan

Coming from the auto parts industry, I can usually spot cheap Tiawan crap a mile away...same goes with those travelling flower (or perfume) salesmen, they head toward me from across he parking lot & before they're 20 feet away from me, I'm already bellowing "I don't wanna buy ANYTHING from you!!!" They get this hurt look on their faces & turn the other way. :D Friggin' dicks. :D :D

Same goes with 99.2% of the tools out there...for me, anyway.
If it's amazingly cheap, stay the hell away...it would be less painful to shoot your toe off with a nail gun. :smilielol:

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Charger Aficionado

In Regards to:  don't buy cheap stuff....  This does not apply with two things:  Women and Booz...  Anyone Agree?  I like my women and my alchol CHEAP as I can GET.

TheGhost

Quote from: Charger Aficionado on August 12, 2005, 01:37:21 AM
In Regards to:  don't buy cheap stuff....  This does not apply with two things:  Women and Booz...  Anyone Agree?  I like my women and my alchol CHEAP as I can GET.

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Quote from: Charger Aficionado on August 12, 2005, 01:37:21 AM
In Regards to:  don't buy cheap stuff....  This does not apply with two things:  Women and Booz...  Anyone Agree?  I like my women and my alchol CHEAP as I can GET.

I would agree on that, only I heard "old wise advice" - If you dont pay the wh..e, you'll pay the doctor   :ahum:
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TruckDriver

You dont have to tell me about cheap stuff. I was married to a woman for 10 years :D
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bull

Quote from: DodgeChargerGuy on August 12, 2005, 05:02:55 AM
I was married to a woman for 10 years :D

At least you got the gender right.

Old Moparz

Quote from: bull on August 12, 2005, 12:12:29 AM

My dad taught me a lesson in buying cheap stuff because he's been buying cheap stuff his whole life and getting burned time after time. You would think he would have learned by the age of 68 but no. He's always been the guy who spends a dollar to save a dime.



Hey Bull,

Your dad isn't related to my dad, is he?  :smilielol:  I swear I just had this conversation with my sister a week ago. I know he means well, but you should see all the strange tools, gadgets & whatever else he picks up for himself, or as gifts for the holidays. I think he has stock in the "AS SEEN ON TV" ads. I know have a small Harbor Freight warehouse in my basement of things that will either break or injure you if you try to use them. The one thing that my 6 year old daughter likes, is the combination "Radio-Flashlight-Siren-Strobe-Ear-Assault-Weapon"
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Charger_Fan

Quote from: Old Moparz on August 12, 2005, 09:33:29 AM
The one thing that my 6 year old daughter likes, is the combination "Radio-Flashlight-Siren-Strobe-Ear-Assault-Weapon"
Geez, my wife gave me one of those for Christmas one year...I just said "thanks, hon" as sincerely as I could. ::)

The Aquamax...yes, this bike spent 2 nights underwater one weekend. (Not my doing), but it gained the name, and has since become pseudo-famous. :)

dkn1997

Quote from: IBsmokin on August 11, 2005, 10:14:02 PM
and leaving you with chocolate tips!!!   LOL

Now, That's funny.

With some very specialized tools that you may only use once or twice, sometimes it is ok to cheap out a bit.  But for sockets and other stuff you use a lot, I would consider Husky or Craftsman the absolute bare minimum as far as quality. 

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Quote from: 69bananabeast on August 11, 2005, 10:38:41 PM
buy cheap , you get cheap

so, does this concept apply to everything? even escorts in vegas? :D
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Mopar440+6

Quote from: Silver R/T on August 11, 2005, 10:09:51 PM
go out and buy snap on lol

Shaddap you!  >:( The only tools I own are Snap-On and Milwaukee! (Of course Im slightly biased because my grandfather was a Snap-On dealer for 25 years :D ) But trust me in some cases even Snap-On tools and equipment aren't the best choice. All my hand tools are Snap-On but I would NEVER even look at another Snap-On welder again...
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IBsmokin

well for the same price of a up town high class escort you can buy 50 project crack hores!  50 to 1, just like the Perry and Earndhart arguement, its all about the numbers man!!!  so do you guys still go for the numbers????

chrisII

Quote from: Silver R/T on August 11, 2005, 10:09:51 PM
go out and buy snap on lol


    YOUVE gotta be kidding me!!  in an ideal world , sure. but when a set of 3/8 shallow sockets is like $135 on a good day a guy cant afford to fill a tool box without puting a second mortgage on his house. and heaven forbid the poor guy who doesnt own a house and accepts credit form the crooks, at 20% apr or more. theese tools are supposed to be for guys to make a living with but when it takes 1/2 of your paycheck every week to pay off what ya owe what do you have for a living?
   the guy i work with gives me crap about not buying snap on. I have snap on ratchets, and extenshons. but my sockets and wrenches are craftsman or equal quality. I almost never break one, and if i do i can get it replaced that night rather than wait 2 or 3 weeks for the guy in his truck to show up

bull

Yea, no joke. I appreciate the quality of Snap-On tools but I really cannot afford them. I think the company makes it hard on the salesmen to sell the stuff and make a living because the prices are so high. A friend of mine owns a Snap-On 1/4" drive set and he's totally paranoid about losing it because he says it will cost him something like $350 to replace it. Jeez. I'd rather spend $70 for one at Sears and enjoy a little peace of mind.

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craftsmen is awsome our toolbox is 15 years old and still holds up. you can still see the red under all the stickers.
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I have had my Craftsman tools for over 25 years now. I've had to replace 1 ratchet, 3 sockets, & 1 screwdriver.  I still have my top tool box! I have also had good luck with Mac tools [bottom tool chest] and S-K Tools.
Stay away from those junk peddlers like Harbor Freight and their chinese/Pakistan/Taiwanese garbage.
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mysil bergsprekken

I agree, Go for the expensive stuff, it is going to pay off in the long run.
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mysil bergsprekken

Quote from: Charger Aficionado on August 12, 2005, 01:37:21 AM
In Regards to:  don't buy cheap stuff....  This does not apply with two things:  Women and Booz...  Anyone Agree?  I like my women and my alchol CHEAP as I can GET.
Disagree completely... but I guess it depends how one looks at it.
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Chryco Psycho

Some tools you just have to buy good quality or you are wasting your time , snap ring pliers , micrometers , even wrenches & sockets etc , flare nut wrenches just have to be good steel so they do not flex & strip nuts + it has to fit in tight places .
I was shown a demonstration years ago by Snap On , they had a coupling nut & they put my craftsman wrench on one end & a Snap on flank drive on the other end & squeezed until the Craftsman stripped the nut which is what we all expected but they switched the wrenches around & put the Snap on wrench where the nut was stripped & the Craftsman on the good part of the nut & again squeezed until the nut stripped , the Snap on held on better where it was stripped than the Craftsman did on the good part & the Craftsman again stripped the nut first !! When doing restorations getting nuts out without stripping them is a huge time saver but in time & replacing hardware .
 I have yet to be convinced a Snap on Hammer is worth the extra cash although the dead blow hammers are nice . Weller makes a good product too, still have the one I bought as a teen , works great  :2thumbs:

elacruze

I have a Snap-On airport tool cabinet from the '50s. It's so sturdy it still has the non-roller drawer pulls, which they quit making..well before I bought my first Snap-On tool box...
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was out driving in western Indiana and saw one of these. Not really rare but is in Indiana.  ;)

Couldnt get a picture of the car but it was this model and color.

         
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dang that post was to be in rarest car seen topic  :shruggy:
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mysil bergsprekken

Quote from: Slowpoke on November 03, 2011, 08:26:15 PM
dang that post was to be in rarest car seen topic  :shruggy:
just change/modify it then...
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FLG

Anyone check the date of this thread, blast from the past  :coolgleamA: