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What is the fastest 1/8 mile, 1/4 mile 68, 69,70 Charger in here?

Started by Harper, December 17, 2017, 12:14:32 PM

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Harper

QuoteInflating the front tires beyond their max is dangerous and the dumebst thing ive ever heard of. I would never reccomend that. All it would potentially do is change the reaction time by a few ten thousandths

maybe so but there are a lot of ppl who believe in doing this...it helps
if your bracket racing i can see where it would not matter, Kentucky Bowling Green, Miss Gulf Port, hattisburg, Georgia Reynolds
never had an issue, never was told to lower my pressure... ::)
1968 Dodge Charger
1969 Dodge Charger (GL Clone)
1951 F1 Ford 302 EFI, Automatic
1965 F100 Ford Straight 6, 3 speed on column (all original)

70sixpkrt

Quote from: Harper on December 18, 2017, 09:31:32 PM
yea but that all depends on a lot of factors, temp out, tire pressure, what RPM he's leaving at etc. i figured 12.7 at worst. i guess 12.4 may would be possible. But that would be in an ideal situation

for instance what FRONT tire pressure were you running 70sixpkrt? inflate those suckers up to 60 or more and see what happens...same as pushing a wheel barrow with a flat tire vs full inflated. :)

32 psi on all 4 BFG. I'm no racer but just wanted a car that would run mid 12's. It's a 4 speed car and leaving the line at idle.


440-6pk, 4-speed, Dana 60 with 3:54  
13.01 @107.93 (street tires spinning all the way down)

Harper

Quote70sixpkrt
that is an absolute clean car. If that run was on regular BFG's that was excellent.
1968 Dodge Charger
1969 Dodge Charger (GL Clone)
1951 F1 Ford 302 EFI, Automatic
1965 F100 Ford Straight 6, 3 speed on column (all original)

Kern Dog

Quote from: c00nhunterjoe on December 19, 2017, 01:18:52 PMInflating the front tires beyond their max is dangerous and the dumebst thing ive ever heard of.

I guess you have never heard of the following:

People that have sex with prostitutes without wearing a rubber.
People that use heroin and share needles.
People that ride motorcycles at 100 mph between cars in traffic while doing so without a helmet.
People that piss into the wind.
Letting thousands of Syrian immigrants into the country.
Government paying thugs to stay out of gangs.
Naked snow skiing.
The polar bear club.
Running with the bulls in Spain.
Messing with Sasquach.

Bronzedodge

Quote from: c00nhunterjoe on December 18, 2017, 07:02:38 AM
Not following... if i run 93 octane, and dump c12 in the tank, it will make no difference, despite popular myths. And on top of that, it smells different, so if its a tagged and insured street class, you will get caught as soon as you start the car. So the fuels in question must not be typical race fuels, thus why i am inquiring.

Joe is correct.  Not to hijack the thread, but a fuel's octane rating can be thought of as "how SLOW it burns"  In other words, if you don't have the squeeze that needs 108 octane, you'll slow down using it.
Mopar forever!

garner7555

Quote from: Bronzedodge on December 20, 2017, 04:20:35 AM
Quote from: c00nhunterjoe on December 18, 2017, 07:02:38 AM
Not following... if i run 93 octane, and dump c12 in the tank, it will make no difference, despite popular myths. And on top of that, it smells different, so if its a tagged and insured street class, you will get caught as soon as you start the car. So the fuels in question must not be typical race fuels, thus why i am inquiring.

Joe is correct.  Not to hijack the thread, but a fuel's octane rating can be thought of as "how SLOW it burns"  In other words, if you don't have the squeeze that needs 108 octane, you'll slow down using it.

Exactly.   Octane doesn't add power.    A really hot engine that requires high octane should have a lot of power, but not from the octane.
69 Charger 440 resto-mod

c00nhunterjoe

Quote from: Kern Dog on December 19, 2017, 11:03:43 PM
Quote from: c00nhunterjoe on December 19, 2017, 01:18:52 PMInflating the front tires beyond their max is dangerous and the dumebst thing ive ever heard of.

I guess you have never heard of the following:

People that have sex with prostitutes without wearing a rubber.
People that use heroin and share needles.
People that ride motorcycles at 100 mph between cars in traffic while doing so without a helmet.
People that piss into the wind.
Letting thousands of Syrian immigrants into the country.
Government paying thugs to stay out of gangs.
Naked snow skiing.
The polar bear club.
Running with the bulls in Spain.
Messing with Sasquach.

:rofl:  yes, ive heard of all of those things. I would just like to see some proof that putting 60 pounds of air in a 35 pound max pressure tire is a good thing, by actual scientific fact, not "because thats what the guys i ran with do"

Aussiemadonmopars

Quote from: 440 on December 18, 2017, 09:51:05 PM
Here a video on the Aussie Charger.

Cool story worth a watch

https://youtu.be/-n7rtkX7nl4
I saw it a few times on the streets of Perth here. If the cops ever saw it they would of thrown the book at him I'm sure. Like he says in the video - we have to take our cars to the US in order not to not be noticed and enjoy the freedom. We live in a police state here where they clamp down massively on Hoons or Hoonish behavior. If it looks like it's doing 100 mph standing still at a traffic light then guaranteed you'll get pulled over.

440

Same situation here in SA which is known as the nanny state, luckily we are moving to Victoria soon. My Charger was road registered in NSW but I couldn't register it here. Some of the hoon laws are also BS in my opinion, as well as having to get things like disk brake conversions engineered to be legal and ...... don't get me started, lol.

Harper

QuoteI would just like to see some proof that putting 60 pounds of air in a 35 pound max pressure tire is a good thing, by actual scientific fact, not "because thats what the guys i ran with do"
::)

you can run 25 psi in your tires if you like, drag a boat anchor or whatever. I will use every advantage i come across. thats just like Nitrous is NOT for everyone. Some ppl like NA, some turbos and some superchargers. If we all did the same thing this old world would be quite boring.  :cheers:
1968 Dodge Charger
1969 Dodge Charger (GL Clone)
1951 F1 Ford 302 EFI, Automatic
1965 F100 Ford Straight 6, 3 speed on column (all original)

c00nhunterjoe

Quote from: Harper on December 20, 2017, 06:59:22 PM
QuoteI would just like to see some proof that putting 60 pounds of air in a 35 pound max pressure tire is a good thing, by actual scientific fact, not "because thats what the guys i ran with do"
::)

you can run 25 psi in your tires if you like, drag a boat anchor or whatever. I will use every advantage i come across. thats just like Nitrous is NOT for everyone. Some ppl like NA, some turbos and some superchargers. If we all did the same thing this old world would be quite boring.  :cheers:

Overinflating your tires has nothing to do with building a nitrous or turbo motor. I still ask to see the evidence where overinflating them made your car faster? At most it will have a marginal effect on your reaction time because raising or lowering the pressure a few psi changes the rollout rate of the tire. Now this is only true of a drag style or old school bias tire. Your bfg radial ta will have no difference because its a radial. So please educate me on how you are correct.

Harper

QuoteOverinflating your tires has nothing to do with building a nitrous or turbo motor.

like i said you can do what you want to do. It made my car faster and I will do it again. period  :2thumbs:

QuoteAt most it will have a marginal effect on your reaction time because raising or lowering the pressure a few psi changes the rollout rate of the tire.

it has Nothing to do with reaction time nor roll out...its the entire length of the track that makes the difference.
so run lower pressure in your rear tires to, see what that does. other than traction it does matter how wide your tire patch is correct? i mean why run a 15 wide tire on the rear if you can get away with a 10 or 10.5 inch wide tire and get the traction you want? it slows you down, that is a fact. There is a happy medium on rear tire inflation vs over inflation as well as the front. If you don't believe it that's your prerogative.



QuoteNow this is only true of a drag style or old school bias tire. Your bfg radial ta will have no difference because its a radial. So please educate me on how you are correct.

i ran radial front tires on my,s street car, my early bracket car as well as on my purpose built race car (skinnys on my race car).
as a NOTE i didn't just show up on street night and make a all out blind wild pass and not be able to repeat it,
I documented which lane i ran it, whether it spun or hooked, which rear tire pressure, what the outside temp was, barometric pressure was, humidity, my engine temp, my reaction times, my mph, my 60 ft, the time, and even what RPM i left at and where i shifted at, I can promise you I did test, i documented it and it worked for me. If you choose to believe something else or do something different, thats ok. No harm no foul. I not just talking out my ass like you seem to insinuate. 
this is NOT my first rodeo, maybe you believe your answer to be correct, well so do I. :brickwall: lets let it go at that.

1968 Dodge Charger
1969 Dodge Charger (GL Clone)
1951 F1 Ford 302 EFI, Automatic
1965 F100 Ford Straight 6, 3 speed on column (all original)

c00nhunterjoe

Quote from: Harper on December 20, 2017, 10:19:41 PM
QuoteOverinflating your tires has nothing to do with building a nitrous or turbo motor.

like i said you can do what you want to do. It made my car faster and I will do it again. period  :2thumbs:

QuoteAt most it will have a marginal effect on your reaction time because raising or lowering the pressure a few psi changes the rollout rate of the tire.

it has Nothing to do with reaction time nor roll out...its the entire length of the track that makes the difference.
so run lower pressure in your rear tires to, see what that does. other than traction it does matter how wide your tire patch is correct? i mean why run a 15 wide tire on the rear if you can get away with a 10 or 10.5 inch wide tire and get the traction you want? it slows you down, that is a fact. There is a happy medium on rear tire inflation vs over inflation as well as the front. If you don't believe it that's your prerogative.



QuoteNow this is only true of a drag style or old school bias tire. Your bfg radial ta will have no difference because its a radial. So please educate me on how you are correct.

i ran radial front tires on my,s street car, my early bracket car as well as on my purpose built race car (skinnys on my race car).
as a NOTE i didn't just show up on street night and make a all out blind wild pass and not be able to repeat it,
I documented which lane i ran it, whether it spun or hooked, which rear tire pressure, what the outside temp was, barometric pressure was, humidity, my engine temp, my reaction times, my mph, my 60 ft, the time, and even what RPM i left at and where i shifted at, I can promise you I did test, i documented it and it worked for me. If you choose to believe something else or do something different, thats ok. No harm no foul. I not just talking out my ass like you seem to insinuate. 
this is NOT my first rodeo, maybe you believe your answer to be correct, well so do I. :brickwall: lets let it go at that.



Thanks, your words speak volumes for why noone should ever follow that advice.

INTMD8

Quote from: Bronzedodge on December 20, 2017, 04:20:35 AM
Not to hijack the thread, but a fuel's octane rating can be thought of as "how SLOW it burns"  In other words, if you don't have the squeeze that needs 108 octane, you'll slow down using it.

All gasolines, pump or race fuel have very similar burn rates. 

Higher octane is higher resistance to auto ignition and detonation, not slower burning. Still there is some variance and some of the fastest burning fuels are race fuel (would be a problem on nearly 20k rpm F1 cars).

That being said, agreed that you can realize a power loss in a mild combination that does not require race fuel as some race fuel has a lower energy value (btu/lb) than pump gas.
69 Charger. 438ci Gen2 hemi. Flex fuel. Holley HP efi. 595rwhp 475rwtq

Harper

QuoteThanks, your words speak volumes for why noone should ever follow that advice.
whatever ::) the point of the thread was to see how fast ppl who time their cars have run not to have a pissing match... :slap:

so how fast you ever been at the track (in your own car) coondog? just curious... ;)
1968 Dodge Charger
1969 Dodge Charger (GL Clone)
1951 F1 Ford 302 EFI, Automatic
1965 F100 Ford Straight 6, 3 speed on column (all original)

funknut

Over-inflating fronts is old news.  Everybody knows all the really fast guys run a 1/2 fill on the front tires.  Increases sidewall strength and keeps the front end down.   ;)

c00nhunterjoe

Quote from: Harper on December 21, 2017, 12:53:33 PM
QuoteThanks, your words speak volumes for why noone should ever follow that advice.
whatever ::) the point of the thread was to see how fast ppl who time their cars have run not to have a pissing match... :slap:

so how fast you ever been at the track (in your own car) coondog? just curious... ;)

156 mph in the 1/4.

Harper

1968 Dodge Charger
1969 Dodge Charger (GL Clone)
1951 F1 Ford 302 EFI, Automatic
1965 F100 Ford Straight 6, 3 speed on column (all original)


Harper

1968 Dodge Charger
1969 Dodge Charger (GL Clone)
1951 F1 Ford 302 EFI, Automatic
1965 F100 Ford Straight 6, 3 speed on column (all original)

c00nhunterjoe


INTMD8

Quote from: c00nhunterjoe on December 22, 2017, 12:46:40 PM
Nhra supergas. Runs a 9.90 every time.

I would find frustration in holding back a mid 8 second car to run 9.90. 
69 Charger. 438ci Gen2 hemi. Flex fuel. Holley HP efi. 595rwhp 475rwtq

c00nhunterjoe

Its an artform to do it consistantly. Car should run low 8s all out. During that 9.90 pass, about 3 seconds of it is at idle going down the track. Some guys in the class are in the 180mph range.....

INTMD8

Quote from: c00nhunterjoe on December 23, 2017, 12:23:26 PM
Its an artform to do it consistantly. Car should run low 8s all out. During that 9.90 pass, about 3 seconds of it is at idle going down the track. Some guys in the class are in the 180mph range.....

I'm sure the consistency would be tough, I would just want to let it eat :D

Or at least move it to an 8.90 index, sounds like everyone has enough power  :2thumbs:
69 Charger. 438ci Gen2 hemi. Flex fuel. Holley HP efi. 595rwhp 475rwtq

c00nhunterjoe

Supercomp is 8.90 index. Most of them are dragsters. 180+ in those guys.