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OK here we go.... 68' Charger price

Started by 44070dart, October 07, 2017, 04:35:37 PM

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44070dart

Have a chance at a 68' .. solid car ..needs paint, but body straight, very little rust, no holes /needs vinyl roof, but roof solid /car solid underneath
runs/drives well, but drive train has not been rebuilt in 20 plus years..glass in good shape .. seats recovered in wrong style but in very good condition..  is R/T but not original 440 /727, so I don't think R/T matters ..its all there ....... mid $20's ?? ...... looking for opinions

Mytur Binsdirti

Besides the bubbles in the front of the rear quarter, the lower portion of the fender looks bad & the corner piece on the lower rear of the quarter looks suspicious. Very little rust means that previous bodywork is probably hiding even more bad stuff.

More pictures needed.

44070dart

Have no other pictures of body at this time that show any rust issues..

F8-4life

I'd say its worth 15-20k realistically.

Mytur Binsdirti

Looks like it's a candidate for a full restoration. Is there a fender tag?

44070dart


ws23rt

Quote from: 44070dart on October 07, 2017, 07:54:24 PM
why fender tag

Why -what- about fender tag?

It is a part of identification. It identifies options the car was produced with. Some folks like to know as much as possible about a car before they buy. More information is always good.

44070dart

I've found once they lose the original engine that importance pretty much goes out the window.. as far as value

ws23rt

Quote from: 44070dart on October 07, 2017, 08:44:20 PM
I've found once they lose the original engine that importance pretty much goes out the window.. as far as value

The original engine block seems to be a big deal for many but it is just one piece of a package with many parts.
The question of value is the top question most are asking. ---Value is a motivator for those that are in the business of fixing and selling cars. Potential value (or loss) also is a deal killer for someone that has a hard time turning money into pleasure.---A bank account is cool beans but hard to have fun with day to day.--  (BTW days go by at a constant rate of 365 per year.)  

Buyers are the ones that answer the questions of value but we tend to only see asking prices. --Value for a 48 year old car is a moving target at best. Not something found clearly on a chart. When the folks with money (that tend to push prices as they do) buy before they die --the market may spike for a time. Next will be the family selling cars that used to be bought by people that are gone.--Tick-Tick-Tick.


70 sublime

I think the fender tag question came up because in the last picture posted you can see the inner fenders and under the hood painted black but there is a blue space where the tag should be and clearly has been removed since black paint
next project 70 Charger FJ5 green

6bblgt

the "fact" that it was/is a R/T has a huge impact on value whether or not the original "born with" engine is there

an originally turquoise/white interior with black vinyl top 440 automatic non-numbers driver is going to far surpass the value of a triple-green 318 car with the same drivetrain currently in it

I'd doubt there are many driver 1968 Charger R/Ts, that are that "intact" for $20K  :shruggy:

& yes the existence of a fender tag, broadcast sheet and/or nay other documentation matter $$-wise.  :Twocents:

VegasCharger


Homerr

Quote from: 44070dart on October 07, 2017, 04:35:37 PM
....is R/T but not original 440 /727, so I don't think R/T matters ...

R/T matters even if it won't be numbers matching.

Moparpoolman

If these are your thoughts: "is R/T but not original 440 /727, so I don't think R/T matters"  and  "why fender tag"  and  "I've found once they lose the original engine that importance pretty much goes out the window.. as far as value"
you might be better off buying a non-RT that is ready to drive and in much better condition for the money.

44070dart

I just sold a 69 Cobra that had lost its 428 some time ago and its value was halved even with a well built 460.. NOW a cobra is not 68' Charger  I know, but the cobra's have a value of about 28/30 K when intact .. I would be very happy finding a 68' with a 318 in good condition for 25k, but that is pretty difficult as I have been looking for some time.. what is the value of an R/T over a 318 when the 440 is gone ..its basically same car .. don't you feel that the loss of the heart of the car diminishes the overall value by a large percentage .. I have to look at the purchase value, as this is a BIG expense for me as a old gray beard and I don't want to start out underwater with the purchase, although I'll probably wind up there eventually as we all do......... thanks for input

darbgnik

Seems to me, any Charger with a VIN starting with XS is always held to be more valuable than one with an XP, such as mine.

Original drivetrain, fender tag, and build sheet always increase value from there, but so does condition and sought after options.

How many times have I been asked if mine was an R/T? A lot more than if I've been asked if the engine was original.
Brad

1970 Charger 500. Born a 318, AC, console auto, now 440/727
Build thread:  http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,127291.0.html

Troy

There's a lot more to an R/T than just a bigger engine (suspension, brakes, etc.) - not to mention the rarity. An R/T with no drive train at all still has a fair amount of value. Pricing Chargers is a little different from a lot of other cars because, overall, the base models were very similar to the performance models. They were a premium priced car even in the barest form, the body and interior was basically unchanged across the entire model line (as opposed to having various trim packages), and the production run was fairly low (even considering the sales success of 68). If you compare those same things to the Coronet model line it's pretty clear. Also, in 68 there weren't a lot of factory options so pricing in many cases hinges on the existence of specific options (4-speed, Track Pack, 8-track radio, etc.) or color combinations (red, black, etc) that were very limited production but highly sought after today. So there's a lot more to it than a character in the VIN number. Basically, every little thing seems to affect price in some way on these cars.

My dad had a 69 Torino that he loved. A while back I had the opportunity to trade one of my cars for a 69 Cobra 4-speed and I thought it would be cool to help him relive his youth. After researching the cars I passed on the deal. Those things don't seem to hold much value at all. Mostly because they're not "mainstream" I guess. Not popular with the typical muscle car nut. Heck, Hemi Satellites can be had cheap(ish) if you're looking for comparisons. I suppose my point is that you have to have an exceptional car to bring the big bucks when it's something that isn't wildly popular to begin with. Any deficiency at all can tank the price.

On this car, I can only seem to notice all the stuff that needs fixed/repaired. Nearly everything seems like it's going to need touched. If there's rust hiding then I'm not sure it's much better than a lot of cars that initially look worse. Examples are the seats, cracked console, incorrect arm rests, windlace trim, mirrors. All of which are easy and possibly cheap repairs but that's just what I see right off. I can't see the condition of the grill or any of the chrome trim. I'm imagining things like the door handles, gas cap, taillights, and vinyl top trim are pitted. Can't see the trunk floor or frame rails. Thankfully, I am not a buyer but I wouldn't give anywhere near mid-20s for it unless I was certain all the metal underneath was nice and solid.

If you're looking for something to wow people while you're cruising the wheels off it then buy it and drive it. As a restoration candidate, I would go over every single inch thoroughly because it costs the same to replace quarters, rockers, rear valance, dutchman, trunk pans, and roof on a car you can see through but the "buy in" is a lot less.

Troy
Sarcasm detector, that's a real good invention.

Chad L. Magee

Quote from: Troy on October 08, 2017, 03:00:26 PM
Heck, Hemi Satellites can be had cheap(ish) if you're looking for comparisons. I suppose my point is that you have to have an exceptional car to bring the big bucks when it's something that isn't wildly popular to begin with. Any deficiency at all can tank the price.

Yes, I agree.  Hemi Satellites are considered the ground state starting point of those wanting to get into the original 426 Hemi cars.  Only the 1968 Hemi Roadrunners were produced in larger numbers with that engine.  However, many people prefer the looks of the 1968-70 B-Bodies to those eariler (or later) in the series, so they tend to be in higher demand overall....
Ph.D. Metallocene Chemist......

charger_fan_4ever

This car is in northeast. If it was any good at all it would have sold a month ago when it was listed IMO.

R/t or not if no fender tag and engine gone and bondo over rust you may be paying mid 20s for a car that needs to be stripped to  bare shell and reddo metal work ect. ie basically the same shape as a 10k project car if interior and engine can be all reused.

IMO this car is only a "good" buy if you plan on just doing a body job ie not totally dismantling and fix it as a driver if you pay over 20k. If you plan on stripping it to make it perfect pass on it unless price is south of 20k especially without a fendertag or build sheet.