Centerforce vs Mcleoad clutch?

[cavemanno1]

Hi guys,

I'm about to order a clutch kit for my '68 r/t  18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60charger but don't know which one to buy,centerforce or Mcleoad?
Will need an 11" clutch!

You guys prefer any over the other or they are all good!
Went to Mcleoad's site but I could not find any 11" clutch kit for an 18 spline trans!

Thanks,

[Ghoste]

I like the Centerforce myself.  They seem to take the abuse and being stuck in traffic with the old high pressure Borg and Beck gets old fast.

[Troy]

I only have a Centerforce behind a 383 and it's not even the heavy duty one. All my others have McLeod.

Intersting, I don't see them listed at Brewer's any more:
http://www.brewersperformance.com/products.php?cat=253

Mancini lists them:
http://www.manciniracing.com/mcleod1.html

Passon lists them:
https://www.passonperformance.com/component/virtuemart/?page=shop.browse&category_id=36

Troy

[70sixpkrt]

I've always used Mcleod disc-260151, pressure plate plate-360153. They don't make the pressure plate anymore. The disc they still make. You would have to send yours to them and they will rebuild it for you. Don't know anything about Centerforce. I need to do a clutch job also this winter.

[1970Moparmann]

I only have a Centerforce behind a 383 and it's not even the heavy duty one. All my others have McLeod.

Intersting, I don't see them listed at Brewer's any more:
http://www.brewersperformance.com/products.php?cat=253

Mancini lists them:
http://www.manciniracing.com/mcleod1.html

Passon lists them:
https://www.passonperformance.com/component/virtuemart/?page=shop.browse&category_id=36

Troy

Troy, what is your opinion?

Thanks.

[Troy]

I only have a Centerforce behind a 383 and it's not even the heavy duty one. All my others have McLeod.

Intersting, I don't see them listed at Brewer's any more:
http://www.brewersperformance.com/products.php?cat=253

Mancini lists them:
http://www.manciniracing.com/mcleod1.html

Passon lists them:
https://www.passonperformance.com/component/virtuemart/?page=shop.browse&category_id=36

Troy

Troy, what is your opinion?

Thanks.

On what? I chose the McLeod Borg & Beck because they are the original style. It may not matter much if McLeod stopped making them (it sounds like McLeod have had several owners recently and the latest has trimmed their lineup). Sitting in traffic really works your muscles though! I think the 11" 18 spline has about 700 ft/lbs and I think the pedal is 1:6 ratio. Whatever the real numbers, it's stiff! They don't slip (in my experience). The diaphragm style clutches are way easier on your body and are popular. I have heard people having them stick at the track though - not anything I have personally experienced. Remember to remove the over-center spring (don't chop your hand off!) from the pedal assembly when using the diaphragm style.

McLeod and Centerforce make several "levels" of clutches. I only have experience with single disc street style setups. I have a RAM clutch in my 70 Mach 1 and have had zero problems with it.

Troy

[BLK 68 R/T]

IMO, I would run the centerforce. I had one (dual friction) in my 68 GTX and loved it. Like Troy mentioned, just make sure you remove the large spring from the clutch pedal under the dash. The centerforce clutch is a diaphragm style clutch so pedal effort is greatly reduced vs the 3 finger Borg & Beck style.  

[69wannabe]

I only have a Centerforce behind a 383 and it's not even the heavy duty one. All my others have McLeod.

Intersting, I don't see them listed at Brewer's any more:
http://www.brewersperformance.com/products.php?cat=253

Mancini lists them:
http://www.manciniracing.com/mcleod1.html

Passon lists them:
https://www.passonperformance.com/component/virtuemart/?page=shop.browse&category_id=36

Troy

Troy, what is your opinion?

Thanks.

On what? I chose the McLeod Borg & Beck because they are the original style. It may not matter much if McLeod stopped making them (it sounds like McLeod have had several owners recently and the latest has trimmed their lineup). Sitting in traffic really works your muscles though! I think the 11" 18 spline has about 700 ft/lbs and I think the pedal is 1:6 ratio. Whatever the real numbers, it's stiff! They don't slip (in my experience). The diaphragm style clutches are way easier on your body and are popular. I have heard people having them stick at the track though - not anything I have personally experienced. Remember to remove the over-center spring (don't chop your hand off!) from the pedal assembly when using the diaphragm style.

McLeod and Centerforce make several "levels" of clutches. I only have experience with single disc street style setups. I have a RAM clutch in my 70 Mach 1 and have had zero problems with it.

Troy

I'm glad to hear i'm not the only one running a RAM clutch. I have a RAM powergrip in my charger and it works great,been in there for several years now and so far so good. It is good for the leg muscles tho.....

[HPP]

McCleod also makes a diaphragm version similar to the Centerforce.  No first hand experiecne with either.

[c00nhunterjoe]

I ran the centerforce dual friction in mine. Never slipped or gave any issue sidestepping the clutch on slicks.

[pipeliner]

I only have a Centerforce behind a 383 and it's not even the heavy duty one. All my others have McLeod.

Intersting, I don't see them listed at Brewer's any more:
http://www.brewersperformance.com/products.php?cat=253

Mancini lists them:
http://www.manciniracing.com/mcleod1.html

Passon lists them:
https://www.passonperformance.com/component/virtuemart/?page=shop.browse&category_id=36

Troy

Troy, what is your opinion?

Thanks.

On what? I chose the McLeod Borg & Beck because they are the original style. It may not matter much if McLeod stopped making them (it sounds like McLeod have had several owners recently and the latest has trimmed their lineup). Sitting in traffic really works your muscles though! I think the 11" 18 spline has about 700 ft/lbs and I think the pedal is 1:6 ratio. Whatever the real numbers, it's stiff! They don't slip (in my experience). The diaphragm style clutches are way easier on your body and are popular. I have heard people having them stick at the track though - not anything I have personally experienced. Remember to remove the over-center spring (don't chop your hand off!) from the pedal assembly when using the diaphragm style.

McLeod and Centerforce make several "levels" of clutches. I only have experience with single disc street style setups. I have a RAM clutch in my 70 Mach 1 and have had zero problems with it.

Troy

I'm glad to hear i'm not the only one running a RAM clutch. I have a RAM powergrip in my charger and it works great,been in there for several years now and so far so good. It is good for the leg muscles tho.....

Got the Ram HD myself but with a Hydraulic set up lol.

[pettybird]

Centerforce dual friction all day long.  Also, DON'T take out the overcenter spring...it ramps up effort way too much.  Instead I replaced the clutch fork return spring with a much stiffer spring (Autozone sells them in Help packages as clutch springs for a Toyota) and the pedal is as light as a modern car.  You need just enough spring tension below to overcome the overcenter's 'lock the pedal to the floor' antics.  I can rip off no-lift shifts all day with this setup and the engagement is perfect at any speed or RPM.