POSTING PICS AND UPDATES THE RESTORATION AS IT UNFOLDS ON MY 69 DAYTONA CLONE

[kevs1969daytona]

Secondly and more importantly and any input would be insightful.  The 727 needs a  rebuild, the floor and pedals are coming out amyways should I change this car to a 4 SPEED

[70 sublime]

Secondly and more importantly and any input would be insightful.  The 727 needs a  rebuild, the floor and pedals are coming out amyways should I change this car to a 4 SPEED

Is this just a picture or is it a real kit ?
How much are they asking for this if it is a kit ?
Just curious

Yes standards are more fun 

[kevs1969daytona]

Sent an email to them waiting for a reply, they need to know the horsepower and size on engine 

http://www.brewersperformance.com/

[Charger-Bodie]

Secondly and more importantly and any input would be insightful.  The 727 needs a  rebuild, the floor and pedals are coming out amyways should I change this car to a 4 SPEED

The short answer for me is "yes". Everything is mor fun with a manual. Shop around if you can though cause you will pay extra for the convenience of one stop shopping. Sometimes that can be a good thing too.

[kevs1969daytona]

Thats 2 vote for a 4 speed anyone have any info on brewers performance

[DAY CLONA]

Thats 2 vote for a 4 speed anyone have any info on brewers performance

You'll be dropping $4K USD + for a Brewers rebuilt 4spd set up... not worth it IMHO (respected vendor/quality components, but outdated application wise), consider a 5 or 6 spd Tremec TKO600 or T56 6spd, for about the same coin, you'll get more components, a better transmission, and a more versatile car in the end.... RPM, mileage and fun factor wise

I'd recommend Silver Sport Transmission (SST) in Tenn.

[1969daytona]

Thats 2 vote for a 4 speed anyone have any info on brewers performance

You'll be dropping $4K USD + for a Brewers rebuilt 4spd set up... not worth it IMHO (respected vendor/quality components, but outdated application wise), consider a 5 or 6 spd Tremec TKO600 or T56 6spd, for about the same coin, you'll get more components, a better transmission, and a more versatile car in the end.... RPM, mileage and fun factor wise



I'd recommend Silver Sport Transmission (SST) in Tenn.

Outdated maybe. But the 833 i superior to the Tremec if you are going to use it hard.

K-E

[kevs1969daytona]

Wow silver sport has a conversion kit as well thanks

https://shiftsst.com/mopar/

[kevs1969daytona]

BREWER'S PERFORMANCE, INC
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10510 STATE ROUTE 571
LAURA, OH 45337-8799
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Item Weight Quantity Item Description Unit Price Amount
0.26 1.00 PB5300 PILOT ROLLER BEARING, 1.815" O/D 18.95 18.95
22.62 RAM1023PKG RAM 10.9" 23SPL B&B STR DISC/PP/PP 459.95
BOLTS/T/O BRG/TOOL PKG
24.00 1.00 MC75209 McLEOD 10.5" 23SPL PERF DISC/PP/T/O 411.42 411.42
BRG/TOOL PKG
24.34 CDF1023PKG CENTERFORCE DUAL FRICTION 10.5" 23 559.95
SPL, T/O BRG & ALIGN TOOL PKG
0.28 1.00 BP910 PRESSURE PLATE BOLT PKG SET/6, 12.95 12.95
9/16" HEX HEAD
11.44 1.00 BH513R-263 BELLHOUSING W/PIVOT 70-2 BB 329.95 329.95
REPRO, 4.805" HOLE
0.44 1.00 BP-BHBB BELL HOUSING TO ENGINE BOLT SET 24.95 24.95
BB
0.10 1.00 BHSS10 BELLHOUSING STARTER SEAL, BIG 12.95 12.95
BLOCK 10.5"
0.20 1.00 BP-ST STARTER HARDWARE PKG 11.95 11.95
1.38 1.00 CF702N CL FORK 66-74 BB/70-4 E/71-4 B SB NEW 89.95 89.95
0.26 1.00 FB300 FORK BOOT, BELLHOUSING, ALL 23.95 23.95
2.78 1.00 DC10 BELL HOUSING DUST COVER 10.5" BB 99.95 99.95
STEEL
0.02 5.00 DCB 5/16-18 X 11/16" BOLTS, EACH 0.95 4.75
1.00 MISC REBUILT TRANSMISSION 23 SPLINE 1,499.95 1,499.95
1.00 TPC TRANSMISSION PACKAGING CHARGE 49.95 49.95
7.74 1.00 GL4SL STA-LUBE GEAR OIL, 1 GALLON GL4 39.95 39.95
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10510 STATE ROUTE 571
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85-90 WEIGHT
0.30 1.00 BP-TB TRANSMISSION TO BELLHOUSING 5.95 5.95
BOLT/WASHER KIT
4.10 1.00 TC668 TRANSMISSION CROSSMEMBER 66-69 B 139.95 139.95
4-SPEED, REPRODUCTION
1.22 TM2272P TRANSMISSION MOUNT 66-70 B, 66-72 69.95
A, NEW, POLY
3.96 1.00 SM4076A HURST COMP+ SHIFTER MECH 219.95 219.95
W/CLAMP/BOLTS
3.10 1.00 SP6789IK INSTALL KIT FOR COMP+ 201.82 201.82
B-BODY/OVERDRIVE
2.30 1.00 SH057R SHIFT HANDLE 68-9 B CONSOLE, 200.00 200.00
BOLT-ON REPRO
0.01 1.00 LN244 LOCKNUT, SHIFT BALL 3/8x24 7.95 7.95
0.20 1.00 SB213 WOODGRAIN SHIFTER BALL 3/8-24 39.95 39.95
1968-74
1.58 1.00 FT171 FLOOR TUNNEL 1966-70 B, 159.95 159.95
REPRODUCTION 20 GA
0.54 1.00 SB074R SHIFT BOOT 70 B NON-CONS, 59.95 59.95
REPRO---USE UNDER CONSOLE
0.04 4.00 SBBS-2 SHIFT BOOT TO FLOOR SCREW, EACH 0.95 3.80
19.26 1.00 CS66B CARPET SET 66-70 B BLACK, 4-SPEED 179.95 179.95
0.20 1.00 RIL REVERSE INDICATOR LAMP, ALL 68 & UP 89.95 89.95
0.12 1.00 BLH BACKUP LIGHT HARNESS 68-72 MOST 31.95 31.95
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10510 STATE ROUTE 571
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Item Weight Quantity Item Description Unit Price Amount
PARTS TO CONVERT AUTO CONSOLE:
1.98 1.00 CON-BKT-B CONSOLE BRACKETS 66-70 B 4-SPEED, 99.95 99.95
SET, REPRODUCTION
9.00 1.00 CON-TPK6970 4-SPEED CONSOLE TOP PLATE KIT 599.95 599.95
1969-70 B-BODY WOODGRAIN
0.48 1.00 SB454 SHIFT BOOT 68-9 B CONS UPPER 99.95 99.95
(HURST) REPRO--DISCONTINUED
7.00 1.00 CON-SC CONSOLE SIDE COVER 66-70 B 69.95 69.95
4-SPEED, REPRODUCTION--CUT AUTO
CONSOLE SIDE TO CLEAR FLOOR
TUNNEL
2.22 1.00 CCS CONSOLE CARPET STRIPS 66-70 B 4SP 89.95 89.95
BLACK
0.36 1.00 CON-MLDG-PR CONSOLE MOLDINGS (PAIR) 66-70 B 179.95 179.95
4-SPEED, REPRODUCTION
FREIGHT SHIPPING CHARGES TO BE
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TOTAL 5,915.94

[DAY CLONA]

Outdated maybe. But the 833 i superior to the Tremec if you are going to use it hard.

K-E

If your going all out drag racing, yes the 833 is the superior animal in stock form, although the Tremec can be modified for use in the 1000-1500 hp range if so desired, but an OD is not practical nor needed for a race only vehicle if going in a straight line, road course is a completely different story where an OD has a benefit over a 833, even a modified OD 833....

I'll assume the OP is more interested in a nice cruiser, so why not take advantage of a modern OD, then he's not limited to his choice of rear gears, RPM range, poor MPG, or stuck driving on the highway in the low speed lane because he can't keep up with minivan's running OD transmissions... 

[DAY CLONA]

TOTAL 5,915.94

If that's USD?, then the price increase is a good $1K+ higher than I told you it would be  

For that price you could step into a new T56 6spd from SST with the same basic parts list that Brewers quoted you, plus get a 10,000 RPM balanced new driveshaft/yoke/joints included, and a 3 year warranty...if you do decide to go TKO or T56 go with the hyd throw out bearing set up, SST also has pedals/shifters/etc...SST is a one stop shop for a Tremec install, you won't have to worry about sourcing misc items

If your interested talk to Jeff Kaufman at SST for quotes/pricing/application

FYI: TKO600 5spds last I recall were in the $3500 to $5K range depending on what you required transmission and component wise...but generally you'll find the 6spd is comparable in price to the 5 spd, and in some applications actually less than the 5 spd for the same application, whatever you decide 4,5 or 6 speed, it'll be a lot more fun to drive than the slush box that's in it now...

mike

[kevs1969daytona]

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- No refunds on special order or used parts
Warranty Info - www.shiftsst.com/warranty
Silver Sport Transmissions is your one stop solution for powertrain conversions!
• SST PerfectFit™ TREMEC 5 & 6 speed conversions
• SST mulit speed A41 automatic overdrive
• GM and Pace Performance crate engines and accessories
• GM 12 bolt and Ford 9" axle kits
• EPAS Performance Electric Power Steering
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**MORE INFO NEEDED** to determine speedometer gear - requires tire size and rear axle
ratio from customer
1 0.00T
Transmission backup light connector pigtails come with a factory-correct molded connector
and 9 in. wire leads.
1 0.00T
HD roller pilot bearing, Mopar SB/BB/G3 Hemi to SST TREMEC TKO 1 0.00T
Transmission to bellhousing hardware - Ford/Mopar 1 0.00T
Rubber mount to crossmember hardware 1 0.00T
Rubber mount to transmission hardware 1 0.00T
Speedometer connection hardware, includes clip, bolt, lock washer and o-ring 1 0.00T
Clutch Pivot Mount--Bellhousing hardware 1 0.00T
Shifter handle 5/16-18 hardware 1 0.00T
Installation manual, SST TREMEC TKO, Mopar B body 1962-1970 1 0.00T
Customer invoice and warranty paperwork 1 0.00T
Lube Pack, Speedometer Cable, input shaft, Specially formulated, calcium based grease for
cables.
1 0.00T
Kit subtotal - Silver Sport Transmissions TREMEC® TKO 5 speed package for 1966-1970
Mopar B body. Includes all 0.00 items listed above.
3,999.00
SST reproduction bellhousing for Mopar big block B/RB engines and TREMEC TKO
installation. Dual starter mounting for 130 & 143 tooth flywheels. Includes steel inspection
cover and hardware, Made in USA.
1 450.95T
143 tooth billet steel flywheel for Mopar internally balanced B/RB engines with 6 bolt crank
flange. Induction hardened ring gear, Made in USA.
1 340.00T
Chevy/Mopar/Ford Flywheel Bolts, set of 6 1 11.95T
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Silver Sport Transmissions is your one stop solution for powertrain conversions!
• SST PerfectFit™ TREMEC 5 & 6 speed conversions
• SST mulit speed A41 automatic overdrive
• GM and Pace Performance crate engines and accessories
• GM 12 bolt and Ford 9" axle kits
• EPAS Performance Electric Power Steering
• FAST Shipping
• EXCELLENT customer service
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2250 Stock Creek Blvd
Rockford TN 37853
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SST Advanced Friction™ STR clutch set.
• 11"
• 26 spline
• Sprung hub disc design with Marcel cushion
• Full face organic friction
• Light pedal effort
• Smooth street characteristics
• 450 Torque capacity
• Release bearing and alignment tool included
1 249.95T
GM/Mopar Pressure plate bolt, Set of 6 - ARP bolts also available 1 16.95T
SST round shifter handle for 1962-1970 Mopar B body with console and TREMEC TKO.
(Add SLM-ADAPRH-C) Triple chrome plated and Made in USA
1 159.95T
Adapter, SST round handle to 1962-1970 Mopar B body console with TREMEC TKO 1 0.00T
Classic style 5 speed shift knob, white. 3/6"-16 thread w/locknut 1 29.95T
Shifter boot for 1962-1970 Mopar B body using SST round shifter handle. High quality
reproduction.
1 79.99T
Chrome shift boot trim bezel for Mopar round handle or pistol grip shifter boots. High quality
reproduction.
1 41.94T
Reproduction pedal set for Mopar B body, 1966-1970. Includes brake and clutch pedal,
kingpin, housing, pedal pads, hardware and installation instructions. Made in the USA by
SST!
1 299.95T
Complete hydraulic clutch actuator system for 1966-1970 Mopar B body with SST TREMEC
TKO 5 speed. Includes:
• Pedal connection and all other hardware
• No-guesswork fabricated firewall mount for master cylinder
• Fluid reservoir and supply hose
• Braided steel pressure line
• High quality Wilwood master cylinder
• Super HD FTE concentric slave cylinder
• CSC mounting retainer (will be installed here if ordered with transmission)
• Instructions
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Wilwood EXP 600 Plus Super High-Temp Racing Brake Fluid 290-6209, DOT 4, Super
Hi-Temp, 626 Degrees Fahrenheit, 16.9 fluid oz. Bottle
1 21.95T
Pennzoil® Synchromesh Gear Oil 3 pack. Synchromesh Fluid is designed to offer optimal
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Silver Sport Transmissions is your one stop solution for powertrain conversions!
• SST PerfectFit™ TREMEC 5 & 6 speed conversions
• SST mulit speed A41 automatic overdrive
• GM and Pace Performance crate engines and accessories
• GM 12 bolt and Ford 9" axle kits
• EPAS Performance Electric Power Steering
• FAST Shipping
• EXCELLENT customer service
• POSITIVE ONLINE REVIEWS with many listed on Facebook
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[kevs1969daytona]

More strip down today kinda on the fence about the manual tranny expensive

[moparstuart]

Thats 2 vote for a 4 speed anyone have any info on brewers performance

You'll be dropping $4K USD + for a Brewers rebuilt 4spd set up... not worth it IMHO (respected vendor/quality components, but outdated application wise), consider a 5 or 6 spd Tremec TKO600 or T56 6spd, for about the same coin, you'll get more components, a better transmission, and a more versatile car in the end.... RPM, mileage and fun factor wise

I'd recommend Silver Sport Transmission (SST) in Tenn.

I second the 5 speed conversion   , will stop all your overheating issues also   

[DAY CLONA]

Thats 2 vote for a 4 speed anyone have any info on brewers performance

You'll be dropping $4K USD + for a Brewers rebuilt 4spd set up... not worth it IMHO (respected vendor/quality components, but outdated application wise), consider a 5 or 6 spd Tremec TKO600 or T56 6spd, for about the same coin, you'll get more components, a better transmission, and a more versatile car in the end.... RPM, mileage and fun factor wise

I'd recommend Silver Sport Transmission (SST) in Tenn.

I second the 5 speed conversion   , will stop all your overheating issues also   

I would have Jeff at SST quote out the T56 6spd, it should come out close or maybe a few bucks cheaper than the 5 spd TKO...

If the OP wants to shave a few bucks off he could source his own 4 spd pedals, and eliminate the hyd TOB from the TKO package, but having done TKO's with mechanical linkage and hyd TOB's, it's a day and night comparison, IMHO I wouldn't touch mechanical linkage in a swap anymore...

[kevs1969daytona]

Ok found this on Kijiji a complete set.  Guy said its out of a 1962 440, I think that would fit mine 1970 440 anythoughts

Tremec 5 speed TK0600.64 Transmission for sale. Complete hydraulic clutch assembly - complete with reservoir and master cylinder. Chrysler Big Block CNC aluminum bell housing. Chrysler Big Block Billet Steel flywheel. Track slayer stage 1 ceramic clutch kit. Installation manuals and receipts. Approximately 1200 miles on system. Used for street only - not abused. Transmission drive shift yoke. Shifter stick complete with boot.

[Lighthorseman]

Cooooooool.  You'll need the pistol grip for sure though. 

[kevs1969daytona]

Seeing if it fits  and no pistol grip I really like the 69 brown ball with the long shifter

[70 sublime]

Maybe ask why he took it out of his car in the first place ??

[kevs1969daytona]

Seemed very honest said he hooked it up to his 680 hp 440, said it had too much of a cam and when he drove the car just jerked way too much in the the first 2 gears, hard to drive.

[moparstuart]

Thats 2 vote for a 4 speed anyone have any info on brewers performance

You'll be dropping $4K USD + for a Brewers rebuilt 4spd set up... not worth it IMHO (respected vendor/quality components, but outdated application wise), consider a 5 or 6 spd Tremec TKO600 or T56 6spd, for about the same coin, you'll get more components, a better transmission, and a more versatile car in the end.... RPM, mileage and fun factor wise

I'd recommend Silver Sport Transmission (SST) in Tenn.

I second the 5 speed conversion   , will stop all your overheating issues also  

I would have Jeff at SST quote out the T56 6spd, it should come out close or maybe a few bucks cheaper than the 5 spd TKO...

If the OP wants to shave a few bucks off he could source his own 4 spd pedals, and eliminate the hyd TOB from the TKO package, but having done TKO's with mechanical linkage and hyd TOB's, it's a day and night comparison, IMHO I wouldn't touch mechanical linkage in a swap anymore...

i love my 6 speed but it was alot of cutting  , I said 5 speed because its almost a bolt in , just a little massage here and there No cutting .

[moparstuart]

Ok found this on Kijiji a complete set.  Guy said its out of a 1962 440, I think that would fit mine 1970 440 anythoughts

Tremec 5 speed TK0600.64 Transmission for sale. Complete hydraulic clutch assembly - complete with reservoir and master cylinder. Chrysler Big Block CNC aluminum bell housing. Chrysler Big Block Billet Steel flywheel. Track slayer stage 1 ceramic clutch kit. Installation manuals and receipts. Approximately 1200 miles on system. Used for street only - not abused. Transmission drive shift yoke. Shifter stick complete with boot.

with this you wont need a manual trans floor either , just one square hole in the top of the automatic tunnel , if you can steal it for 2500 or so its a good deal 

[kevs1969daytona]

Sean and I went to take some measurements from 2 real Daytona's rear window and nose cone setup from a private collection.  Super nice guy letting us dig around his cars.  

[DAY CLONA]

Seeing if it fits  and no pistol grip I really like the 69 brown ball with the long shifter

From the tailshaft mods and assorted other parts, it looks like an American Powertrain TKO....IMHO I'd pass on it

[kevs1969daytona]

So I bit the bullet and got the Tremec TKO 600 from Redcliff Alberta, which is about 350 miles from where I live.  Timing was good because I was in actually already going to Taber Alberta for the Policeman Ball.  Anyways it was about $3700 all in, thats about $2900 USA.  He paid few years back $5200 USA.  Very nice older guy says maybe 800 miles on it. Cross my fingers.  P.S. the center mount is were all B body Mopars shifters are located according to SST transmissions.