73/74 Rallye phasered stripes... once again!

[Nacho-RT74]

Well I'm here trying once again to get interest on the Rallye phasered stripes. By the moments just the red ones since are the only ones I have to take the right color shades.

Since EVER I have been trying this. Definitely is NOT POSIBLE to me at least use the original technique with silkscreen. Way too expensive to make the experiments without a prooved profit.

Phoenix Graphics has being selling these in US$300 ( initially they began selling in $400 ) plus shipping what long time ago I was able to afford but afraid about their product meeting my expectations. Fortunately I requested pics of their actual product what they sent me. Thanks God never bought. Definitely they are way away of what the original product it was. More related to the color shade than the manufacturing technique ( plotter printed ). Color shades are COMPLETELY incorrect!

So I also had to take a side my dream about being silkscreen and will be printed but the graphic designers I found are agreed on work together with me untill I get COMPLETELY satisfied!

I think the expected final price can be on around $240-280 SHIPPED. Using 3M engineering grade reflective sheeting.

I could in fact being able to offer just A SECTION of the stripe, without the need to get a full set if you get a damaged area on your car.

Who could be interested? Or if you know somebody interested?

[Chargerguy74]

I would be interested in a red set and a gold set. Good to know the Phoenix ones aren't correct. I've been contemplated buying a gold set from them to compare with my originals.

[Nacho-RT74]

I made a thread about that maybe couple of years ago and posted the pics

[Nacho-RT74]

Here is the pic they sent me side by side against a NOS one I have... totally incorrect color shades

[400sforever]

I'd be interested for sure. I've got that 77,000 original mile 74 white rallye with the the red reflective side stripes that needs a perfect set. There was a 74 white rallye clone on eBay for a while with those stripes but I never paid close attention to how his looked. I'm assuming he must have got those from performance car graphics.

[Nacho-RT74]

The only reproducer of those as far I know is Phoenix graphics

[400sforever]

Ya you are right, I just called performance car and they were thinking about making them but are not going to. I will have to go take some close up pictures of my originals to compare with what you have

[Nacho-RT74]

here the diff is noticeable between repro and original ( maybe a bit discolored ) on same body color... of course ligh will affect but still way diff

[Nacho-RT74]

and well even more noticable with this, probably car better storaged, so the red is darker of course

I have tried to get same body color comparision to save the optical ilusions

[400sforever]

Ya you are right, they are different. I will go see if I can get some pictures of mine

[Nacho-RT74]

here a more radical comparision

[Nacho-RT74]

of course, being printed will left a trace of the head printing, that can be sliiiiightly noticeable, but even the PG ones are on that way charging $300.

someday will get the funds to make them "silkscreened" like the original ones.]

I won't make these or offer them for sale untill get the matching color shades to the original ones I have in hands. That's a fact

[400sforever]

these are my stripes with the camera flash on

[400sforever]

flash still on camera

[400sforever]

no flash on these pictures. natural light

[400sforever]

no flash

[400sforever]

more..

[400sforever]

that black rallye looks like it has decent stripes on it. I wonder where those came from?

[Chargerguy74]

Damn I love your car.

Nacho, is the silk screen route possible? Any estimate on cost?

[400sforever]

What's the difference between silkscreen and the other printing method? I tried doing a close up of my stripes but it didn't turn out very good. The decal has a rough texture feel to it and almost looks like it's composed of very small little circular bumps

[74magnum]

As per our discussion... Im interested... Just iron out the details.

[Nacho-RT74]

The original printing pattern by small dots is given just right by the silkscreen technique. Just like the old newspapers. It can me emulated by the printer ink injection, but normally printers by ink injection are more "sweeping". That's why you can see the head trace on some printings.

Aside that silkscreen is made by color layers added one by one,
One at a time, while printing makes all colors at once on the sweep.

Ryan, make the first silkscreen set could reach maybe up to $2.5-3K because the tooling required. Is like make several photographies, one by each color to burn the silkscreen. Every piece requires 4 photographies. That makes 16 photographies in total THAT IS if the quarter section photographies can be made in one piece. Hardt to find the machine and sheets to that size. Locally at least.

Of course making maybe 15 stripes sets will be costly effective, but there is not guarantee about that

I have in fact the silkscreen bought! But that's the cheap part.
The photograph layers are the expensive part aside the color compositon job by graphic designer on each color.

I'm pretty sure this could work to every color because as far I have noticed the phasering is the same on all 3 colors available, just needing to decode the darker and the lighter color


The black car? Can't tell if is a survivor or restored what got a NOS set. Hard to find a NOS set in decent conditions able to be used. The NOS set I have was not posible. It is a bit shrunked and transfer paper glued too much

[Chargerguy74]

Yeah, I hear you on the NOS ones. I have all 3 NOS, but I don't think any will make their way onto a car as I don't know how well they'd stick.

2.5-3K is pretty pricey, but I'd rather pay that than 1/10th for the Phoenix stripes. But I also really like these Rallye stripes. Otherwise I'd just go black (and never go back :p). The key is producing stripes that look exactly like the originals, otherwise you'd just end up with more expensive Phoenix stripes. Back when I bought my NOS stripes I passed on a red set that sold for $900 USD (I think Phoenix were the ones who bought them). That price wasn't too out of line either. I think you'd be able to move a few sets in that ballpark. I know a guy that has factory V6R, V6Y, and V6K striped cars that would buy some.

[Nacho-RT74]

I'm not saying they would be rated on that price each, but just the first set. Then the tooling will be the same for each one. Maybe could be more close to $2K. I simply gave up for the moments on that dream.

[74magnum]

Nacho. Are all your pieces unusable or just some of them? How did they shrink?