HAVE VIDEO NOW PG 3 ! JUST GOT THIS 1969 DAYTONA CLONE WITH SUPER WEIRD HISTORY

[Lighthorseman]

...I took the Daytona into Sherwood Park today...  

If you're in this area, keep your eyes peeled for an R4 red Daytona.  Shows up occasionally at the Tuesday night meet at Timmy's on Wye, and the Friday meet at White Oaks.

[aerolith]

Your Daytona looks great Kev!

I should think the motor got overheated with the lack of grille openings?
The UK 440ci Jensens suffered tremendously with overheat gremlins and bearing failure.
(I have a couple of 1970 date coded 440's here but they are race spec and 5000 miles away.)

I'm sure you can sort the motor real quick if there is no crank damage?

Good luck with the Daytona, as she is SWEET!!!

Aerolite

[kevs1969daytona]

Not too sure if the crank is toast the motor guy just took it around the block said it's a bad rod. Oil Pressure is 35psi  at 2000 rmp when hot.  I have another 440 in pieces and a 413 in pieces as well that came with the Daytona, not too sure if I should gon with the 70 block or 73 that's already in it. heres a youtube video of the bad engine in the car.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WcqoH54m-A&feature=em-upload_owner

[Daytona R/T SE]

Sounds more like a clatter than a knock to me.

A bad rod bearing has a deep thunk! thunk! sound to it.

The "Motor Guy" might just be out to make a buck off of you.

35 psi hot isn't that bad.

You could have a bad lifter, or a pushrod may be shoving it's way through a rocker arm.

Or one of the pushrods could be bent.

I'd pull the valve covers off and check things out.  

[kevs1969daytona]

Had another engine guy come by, says when it revs the oil pressure goes down, or fluctuates which means she about to turn into a hand grenade, throw a rod.  If I take the value covers off and remove the " rocker arm bar" sorry if that not correct way of saying this. Is it simple as tightening snug back on after I roll the push rod on a straight surface such as  glass ??.  Starts fine, no knock unless under load as per the video.

Heres another video close up, sorry its my 16 yr old son filming engine sound like crap.  Turning into a hang grenade.  FYI when I was in the Army always pull the grenade from the pin, not the pin from the grenade, or there might be a problem.  LOL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60pNiSc6nAw&feature=em-upload_owner

[alfaitalia]

Not the best sound quality...at least on my PC speakers.....but as said above, nothing there sounded "heavy" enough to be rod knock to my ears.

[70 sublime]

Think I would try taking all the belts off the front and see if you can make it make the same sound
Would eliminate a few other things to check

[tan top]

  through my computer speakers , sounds like a rod bearing knock  

[Aero426]

There is a reason it was sold with the engine not running and vague answers to questions,

[aerolith]

Hi kev,

Deffo sounds like rod knock!
Put the microphone on the floor near the oilpan, that will pick up the knock better.
I had a guy drive over to my place once with 'rod-knock', for me to have a listen too, big mistake!
It was only a mile but that was enough to wreck the crankshaft into a scrap piece!
Do not run the engine anymore, it will be getting worse by the minute, NO, by the SECOND!!!

Low oil pressure at idle is ok, but it should go up to 60+lbs at 2000 rpm.

413 is a truck motor at best (except 1962 block), but a 70 440 block is a super-rare piece indeed, its a no-brainer...

Aerlithic

[Moparsaver]

Definitely a lower end noise.    And yes it will get worse ... Then be a catastrophic failure if you let it get that far.      Please don't ask how I know.   

[kevs1969daytona]

Thanks for the advice I have pulled the battery cable no more running the engine I will tow it to the engine shop.

[Daytona R/T SE]

Thanks for the advice I have pulled the battery cable no more running the engine I will tow it to the engine shop.

I'd still take the valve covers off and have a look.

Eliminate the simple/cheap possibilities first,

Before you start writing big checks to the "engine shop"

The 440 in my Imperial made one hell of a racket after I backed off after passing a car at wide open throttle.

I thought I hurt it...BAD.

Come to find out one of the lifters had stuck, allowing the pushrod to jump around and make all kinds of noise.

Pull the valve covers and take a look.

It's free and you just might save a few thousand bucks...

[kevs1969daytona]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9LcttS5FFY

Is this normal for these heads and rockers

[A383Wing]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9LcttS5FFY

Is this normal for these heads and rockers

yes

[Highbanked Hauler]

"Then he checks the VIN under the rear molding it does not match the VIN last numbers are 32508 not even close to the VIN"

You need to find out why.   

Possible used quarter or trunk channel. Mine has used quarters on it but I never welded the original  numbers back in.

[djcarguy]

 

[THE CHARGER PUNK]

This car was on Kijiji for over a few year for 30k it's got a home made nose cone & wing and has a custom plug mounted too high up. I had a friend check it out and the rear frame rails are rusty. It's a good 10footer.

[kevs1969daytona]

its at the body ahop now getting completely redone wit proper back window.   https://www.facebook.com/anythingmuscle/

[alfaitalia]

its at the body ahop now getting completely redone wit proper back window.   https://www.facebook.com/anythingmuscle/

Cool....the way he wrote the comments , its almost as if he thinks its the real thing!

[Alaskan_TA]

Then he checks the VIN under the rear molding it does not match the VIN last numbers are 32508 not even close to the VIN, which according to him the dash was replaced .  

Any news on the dash VIN not matching the body numbers?

[kevs1969daytona]

Yea replaced the quarters last year no more second VIN

[Alaskan_TA]

Yea replaced the quarters last year no more second VIN

Wow.