1970 Six Pack Charger R/T 4speed visit

[hemi68charger]

Saw this 1970 Charger R/T on ebaymotors and saw it was at an exotic car dealership here in Houston. So, thought I'd jump into the ole Daytona and go for a visit. Love the 70 v-codes.. It is about one of two sort of cars I'd give up the Superbird for.. This car is pretty darn solid.. Needs a bunch of small detailing items, but for me that doesn't distract too much....

[hemi68charger]

More. Had a real nice 70 Chevelle SS there too.

[moparnation74]

Nice car overall...Just needs some detailing as you said...

What in the heck banged the drivers side valve cover like that....

[moparchris]

Troy,
Did you get a sense that they would be open to trades on the Charger?  Especially for a more expensive car, i.e. their Charger and $ for another car?

[cbrestorations]

That is a sharp car

[hemi68charger]

Troy,
Did you get a sense that they would be open to trades on the Charger?  Especially for a more expensive car, i.e. their Charger and $ for another car?

With any business, I'm sure they are open for discussion..

Heck, if you just want something different and a project to finish, when the Superbird is done with paint, I'll trade ya..... 

[chapel40]

What were they asking for it?

[hemi68charger]

What were they asking for it?

Think close to $80,000

[F8-4life]

Wrong shifter boot right?

[Wingnut426]

No wheel opening moldings.  I would bring a set of rears to make sure the quarters where correct.     WINGNUT

[Kern Dog]

That Chevelle was RED ? When was the last time you saw a RED Chevelle?
(Every car show)
That Charger in B5 looks great! I was tempted to change the color of mine from Flame Red to B5. I love B5 but I don't think I am going to go that route now.

[hemi68charger]

No wheel opening moldings.  I would bring a set of rears to make sure the quarters where correct.     WINGNUT

Very smart...
From looking in the trunk, under the rockers and in the complex area of the bottom corners of a Charger, I couldn't see any evidence of panel replacement. I looked at all the spot welds ( not that those areas could have been saved and worked around ), but didn't see anything inside the trunk. Inside the trunk in the area of the filler panel, quarter and rear window bottom corners was very clean, no evidence of work up in there... 

[shart70rt]

That does look nice. I live about 100 miles away, will stop to view it next time I am in Houston.

Stephen
Silsbee

[UFO]

No wheel opening moldings.  I would bring a set of rears to make sure the quarters where correct.     WINGNUT

Optional on R/T. Although that idea would as you mention tell if they are correct.

[darbgnik]

I have the factory wheel well moldings off of my car taped together, and hung up in the shed. Never going back on this car! Maybe the next guy.

[Kern Dog]

I like how they look on these cars.

[VegasCharger]

Optional on R/T. Although that idea would as you mention tell if they are correct.

So wheel well moldings were optional on R/Ts? Only 70 Charger R/Ts and not 68 or 69?

[6bblgt]

CHARGER wheel lip mouldings:

1968 - STANDARD ALL
1969 - STANDARD ALL
1970 - STANDARD Charger 500 (XP29), OPTIONAL Charger R/T (XS29), Not-Available Charger (XH29)

[VegasCharger]

CHARGER wheel lip mouldings:

1968 - STANDARD ALL
1969 - STANDARD ALL
1970 - STANDARD Charger 500 (XP29), OPTIONAL Charger R/T (XS29), Not-Available Charger (XH29)

Okay thanks for that info. 

Now that I know that, another reason why 70 Chargers are my least favorite of the 2nd gens. EVERY 2nd gen Charger looks way better with the wheel well trim in place. Just my 2¢

[darbgnik]

So because you could opt out of something if you didn't prefer them, like myself, it's you're least favorite year? Tough crowd......... hahaha


Who likes choices anyways.

[VegasCharger]

So because you could opt out of something if you didn't prefer them, like myself, it's you're least favorite year? Tough crowd......... hahaha


Who likes choices anyways.

No that's just another notch in the belt and not solely the reason for the 70 Charger dislike. 

Like who was responsible for adding the door hood scoops on the RTs?? Over the door scallops, one of the most iconic features of the 2nd Chargers. That guy should've been fired for even presenting it at the oval table.

It's all good. I'll take a 70 Charger over any E Body and I don't want to turn this thread in a 68-69-70 debate.

[darbgnik]

So because you could opt out of something if you didn't prefer them, like myself, it's you're least favorite year? Tough crowd......... hahaha


Who likes choices anyways.

No that's just another notch in the belt and not solely the reason for the 70 Charger dislike. 

Like who was responsible for adding the door hood scoops on the RTs?? Over the door scallops, one of the most iconic features of the 2nd Chargers. That guy should've been fired for even presenting it at the oval table.

It's all good. I'll take a 70 Charger over any E Body and I don't want to turn this thread in a 68-69-70 debate.

I agree, if there was any place to add non functional scoops, over the door scallops isn't one of them....

[hemi-hampton]

Over the door scallops is the perfect spot for those scoops.

[hemi68charger]

Over the door scallops is the perfect spot for those scoops.

I personally dig the scoops.....

[alfaitalia]

Surely they should not be called scoops (fake or otherwise) as they face the rear. A scoop would face the front ...no? Maybe vents or exits or whatever! I don't mind them even though I'm not big 70 fan...just a pity they cover what for me is one of the main things that make a Charger look like a Charger.

[dual fours]

Wheel moldings are a nice touch, it finishes out the car. No wheel moldings make the car look finished for circle track racing, no extras to get torn off in a close encounter. Now the door scoops, I would call vents if they were functional so to me It just remind me of gills, like on a fish but still not functional. But when a Charger pulled up along side you some night at the signal light back in the day with door scoops, you would know your up against a 440ci. What a rush that was.    

[RJS]

I know Charger pricing is an animal all it's own but 80K for that???  I could spend a bunch to correct it and then have a nice but not exceptional car IMHO.

I'm really not fond of Blue interiors either but I know that is just personal taste.
Ron 

[6pkrtse]

I agree that the door indention are one of my many favorite things about a 68-70 Charger. My red 70' R/T S.E. has the R/T door scoops & I have always hated them but since they belong on the car, they stay.

[DAY CLONA]

I agree that the door indention are one of my many favorite things about a 68-70 Charger. My red 70' R/T S.E. has the R/T door scoops & I have always hated them but since they belong on the car, they stay.

I'm just the opposite, the 70 door scoops look right at home covering up those scallops, and the 70 front bumper and grille seem just so natural to the shape of the car's lines, the 68-69 front bumper looks like a last minute band aid solution as to what to hang there, the 69 grille with the splitter center divide just looks out of place and distracting, the 68 grille is just too barren a detail-less cavity, I can't even stomach the 68 tail lights....sorry but the 70 Charger R/T is the pinnacle of the 2nd gen Chargers

[alfaitalia]

Nah! What other car has the front bumper right the way around the radiator grille....none as far as I know...well at least none done quite like that. Just looks weird to my eye. I can take or leave the side panels...but it does cover a nice detail imo. I've NEVER seen a 70 in the UK (not saying there isn't one somewhere)...because everyone one wants a 68 or 69. I agree that the 68 was a little plain at the front...but the 70 just over did it with all the chrome around the "mouth" like a girl past her prime and trying a bit too hard with too much lipstick! Lots of manufacturers seem to make the same mistake. Take the Audi TT for example. The first one was nearly prefect if a little plain Jane....take two was just about prefect. But then it all goes horribly wrong with the next one.....reminded me of a hooker past her prime and hoping that by pretending to be something she's not she might drum up some trade..lol!
But of course beauty is verymuch in the eye of the beholder and every b body Charger saved is a great thing. I would not say no to one at the right price....just as long as I could get the parts to clone it into a 69. Lol!

[Kern Dog]

When I bought my 70 in 2003, my intention was to swap a 1969 front end on it. After a short while, the original 1970 styling just grew on me. I'm not the Purist type. I like what looks right to me.
The loop bumper and recessed grille of the 1970 looks great to me now. The 1970 R/T door treatment? Nah...I have never liked it for a few reasons. They are NON functional and cover the scallops. The optional pinstripes that came instead of the Bumble Bee stripe wasn't a favorite of mine either.
I love the 68 models. The open grille, the round taillights....Great on the outside but the 1970 interiors are far nicer if you are into factory stock stuff.

[BDF]

I agree that the door indention are one of my many favorite things about a 68-70 Charger. My red 70' R/T S.E. has the R/T door scoops & I have always hated them but since they belong on the car, they stay.

I'm just the opposite, the 70 door scoops look right at home covering up those scallops, and the 70 front bumper and grille seem just so natural to the shape of the car's lines, the 68-69 front bumper looks like a last minute band aid solution as to what to hang there, the 69 grille with the splitter center divide just looks out of place and distracting, the 68 grille is just too barren a detail-less cavity, I can't even stomach the 68 tail lights....sorry but the 70 Charger R/T is the pinnacle of the 2nd gen Chargers

Even EF8 GREEN ones?   

[DAY CLONA]

I agree that the door indention are one of my many favorite things about a 68-70 Charger. My red 70' R/T S.E. has the R/T door scoops & I have always hated them but since they belong on the car, they stay.

I'm just the opposite, the 70 door scoops look right at home covering up those scallops, and the 70 front bumper and grille seem just so natural to the shape of the car's lines, the 68-69 front bumper looks like a last minute band aid solution as to what to hang there, the 69 grille with the splitter center divide just looks out of place and distracting, the 68 grille is just too barren a detail-less cavity, I can't even stomach the 68 tail lights....sorry but the 70 Charger R/T is the pinnacle of the 2nd gen Chargers

Even EF8 GREEN ones?   

No turd greens, browns or golds...or piss yella

[Dragon Slayer]

Troy, What brand wheels and size are on your Daytona?

[hemi68charger]

Troy, What brand wheels and size are on your Daytona?

They are from Bart Wheels... It is my understanding these are the same wheels/pattern that Bart made for the NASCAR Grand National teams back in the early 70's when the new slotted wheels became the norm ( used to help with the cooling of the brakes ). They are 15x8's with a 4" back-spacing. The issue with this is the outside of the wheel/tire is pretty darn close to the wheel opening. I have to be careful with I turn the tires all the way, they will contact the upper wheel opening and ultimately, and with fear, rub against the wheel-lip molding. As you know, the front wheel-lip molding on a Daytona is VERY unique..... I have 255/60R/15's all the way around....

[BDF]

I agree that the door indention are one of my many favorite things about a 68-70 Charger. My red 70' R/T S.E. has the R/T door scoops & I have always hated them but since they belong on the car, they stay.

I'm just the opposite, the 70 door scoops look right at home covering up those scallops, and the 70 front bumper and grille seem just so natural to the shape of the car's lines, the 68-69 front bumper looks like a last minute band aid solution as to what to hang there, the 69 grille with the splitter center divide just looks out of place and distracting, the 68 grille is just too barren a detail-less cavity, I can't even stomach the 68 tail lights....sorry but the 70 Charger R/T is the pinnacle of the 2nd gen Chargers

Even EF8 GREEN ones?   

No turd greens, browns or golds...or piss yella

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