Need picture of 1969 hemi power steering hose

[Dragon Slayer]

Looking for a picture of original 69 hemi power steering hose, and where they may be purchased.  Thanks,

[Dragon Slayer]

Seems this is an illusive part to find a picture off.  None on Google or any of the restoration sites.  No complete forum discussions.  Any help here or is this an overlooked area no one pays much attention too?

[hemigeno]

Almost 20 years ago I purchased a NOS '69 Hemi PS pressure hose, but don't have any photos of it pre-installation.  The price wasn't cheap then, and it's probably impossible to find (AND insanely expensive if you do) as a New Old Stock part now.

MegaPartsUSA.com has a '70-71 E-body hose listed.  I don't think anyone is repopping the '69 B-body hose - or at least they weren't back when I was scrounging Hemi parts.  IIRC, the stock Hemi E-body setup still used a Federal PS pump and also used the 90 degree fitting on top of the steering box (which changes the orientation of the PS pressure hose connection).  Whether it fits or would work, I dunno... but it could be worth a shot.

       

Below is a pic of an early 1969 Hemi PS pump and at least part of its original pressure hose.

[Dragon Slayer]

Thank you for the response.  Are you sure that is a 69 Federal pump?  The bracket is the earlier 68 style, and the cap is the small .96 TRW type pump cap (rarely seen).  Usually folks have replaced those with the Federal type cap with the ears.  Solid shaft, also indicates TRW small pump.  Is it possible that is the illusive 68 hose?  Also helping to confirm Federal pumps not used in 1968.  The 1968 parts books only showed the Federal as a C body pump.  Not until 69 parts book do the federal pump (1.02) show up on the Hemi B bodies.  Of course the book can be wrong.  This certainly has been an interesting easter egg hunt.  Thank you again.

[hemi68charger]

...  Is it possible that is the illusive 68 hose?  ...

Man, that sucker took me years to find when I was restoring my original '68 Hemi Charger R/T... Whew...  Good luck on the resto..

[Dragon Slayer]

Just be clear, and I am getting very little feed back from questions asked to professional restorer's, and parts dealers...  Many post I read say "all Hemi B body Cars with Power Steering have Federal Power Steering Pumps.

The Federal pump (sometimes called the Chrysler Pump)  is the 1.06L pump with the shaft with 3/8 thread hole in the middle.  These became the standard in 1969 and forward with Saginaw pump.

The pump shown above is the .96L TRW small pump (solid shaft) by todays naming conventions, and may have even been used on some early 1969 hemi cars??  But in 1969 the small and larger TRW pumps were phased out, and in the 1969 Parts book and service manuals the only pumps were the .94 oval filler tube Saginaw pump, and the 3 variations (operating pressure) of the Chrysler (Federal) 1.06L pump.

Still looking for anyone who has a picture of an original 1969 Federal power steering pressure hose for B bodies. Thank you,

[hemigeno]

The pump shown earlier is a very early '69 (8/21/68 SPD).  It's legit & unrestored.

None of my factory docs show the PS hose, at least the ones I looked through this morning.  Below are the only photos I could find from my old car which shows the PS hose in any detail.  It has the Federal-style pump, threaded shaft, cap w/ ears, etc.  I have no photos of the hose pre-installation.

[Dragon Slayer]

Geno?, Thank you, you have been very helpful.  The service manuals and parts books I have reviewed indicate the Federal pump was a 318 (only) C body pump in 1967/68.  So the small TRW would be correct for the Hemi 67/68. 

The 69 parts manual has a hose package for hemi listed as 3004893.  The problem is that when you go to the parts package section and look it up, there is no 3004893.  When you go to the 70 parts manual it calls out the 3004834, which does have a hose part number listed as 2891084.

What is interesting is that the 69 service manual has a diagram how the hose should be oriented and shows the standard B body hose.  It mentions the hemi is different, but only says the orientation at the gear box changes.

That would support your picture of the Federal 69 hemi pump.  The standard B body curl at the pump, but the 90 bend at gearbox, not the 180 degree loop for non hemi cars without fitting.  I think that would allow the standard B body hose to be used, with the gearbox end being redone to a 90 and removing excess tube.   Thank you again.

[charge69]

A little late to the thread but, here is one !

http://picresize.com/images/rsz_dsc00290.jpg

This is my 1969 Hemi Charger undergoing restoration at the time.

The original pump was rebuilt at a specialty shop here in Houston. 

They, also, Rebuilt the hoses. All the fittings and necessary hardware was used and cleaned up by them but the original rubber hose patterns were unobtanium so, they put on as close as they had.    They did a wonderful job on this.

[Dragon Slayer]

The link does not work, can you post the jpeg? 

[charge69]

MAN, I am sorry for being so computer-illiterate !  I will keep trying to send it to you.  I cannot even find the info for the JPEG .

[charge69]

Hope this works !!

[Dragon Slayer]

Perfect, thank you.  Matches Geno's later 1969 hose.  What is on mine is a similar mod as yours.  I have also seen 70/80 parts items in an after market box with just the center section hose as a hemi replacement.  Makes me wonder if that was a standard mod back in the day.  I imagine parts manufacturers did not want to invest in making a limited # of hoses for a small volume of cars, especially with something not a high failure or replacement wear part.

Mine is a early 69 car built in 68.

[charge69]

Glad I finally found a way to post a picture!  Yeppers, ours are similar but, a little different. My SPD is 314 or March 14th 1969.

Carl

[Dragon Slayer]

Does anyone actually have the part number that was off the hose fitting?  I have looked up the various parts numbers listed in the Part Book and the hoses I have found on the internet are not an exact match.  Geno's and your hose have the same pump end loop as the standard hose for a non hemi charger; but with the correct 90 degree end of the hemi.  Earlier hoses have a loop at the pump more like mine.  Similar to the big block A body cars of 69.  Which the part book implies was the hose for the hemi too. 

[Davtona]

Does anyone actually have the part number that was off the hose fitting?  

Here is the number off an original assembly line 69 Hemi hose. Number is hard to read in pic but it reads 2537703  followed by 95165 and believe it or not there is what appears to be a Penta Star ahead of the number.

[Mytur Binsdirti]

Your battery is ugly & there is no hold down. That is all.