Went to look at a 68 Charger possibly R/T project car today

[70 sublime]

So i went to look at a striped out shell of a 68 Charger today
Took no pictures before anyone asks

The guy bought a fancy newer Mustang and wants to sell the Dodge

Car is very stripped out from a body shop that was going to start on it
1/4s cut off but the number in the trunk lip is still there
8 1/4 rear end just to hold it up

It has an XS29 VIN number on the dash that is just laying in the car
No proof that that dash is from that car and with out a build sheet never will

Guy selling the car says from his research it must be a real R/T because it still had the original double fuel lines ( looked the same crusty as rest of car)

Question  Did 68 come with the double lines ?
              Just big block cars ?

The lines looked like they were both the same size and after working on my car I do not think one was a 3/8 either
XS29L8 , 7339 , 7336

[Kern Dog]

ALL cars had one fuel line and one vent line. The vent line is 1/4" but the fuel line could be 5/16" for slantys, 318s, 383s but the 440 and Hemi had a 3/8" line.

[6bblgt]

440 & HEMI had an additional 1/4" fuel return line from front to back

the vent line is just from the tank thru the trunk into a rear frame rail

I can confirm a body number as possibly correct (or IMPOSSIBLE) for a specific '68 Charger VIN

NO fender tag?

[Mytur Binsdirti]

Look for the wider radiator opening, torque boxes, rear frame rail gussets and the pinion snubber reinforcement. That'll tell if it's a Hemi car or not.

[70 sublime]

440 & HEMI had an additional 1/4" fuel return line from front to back

the vent line is just from the tank thru the trunk into a rear frame rail

I can confirm a body number as possibly correct (or IMPOSSIBLE) for a specific '68 Charger VIN

NO fender tag?

So the double line means at least a 440 or 426 ?
The 69 I am working on right now is a 383 car and it only has one 3/8 gas line
The 68 car did not have the torque boxes so not a hemi

So do you have a list of VIN and body numbers that you have collected and can tell if the if the numbers are close enough together to be right ?

Another thing I was wondering about is the torsion bars as they are still in the car
How many sizes were there for 68 ?
Just small block and bigger big block size ?
What diameter should a 440 R/T car have ?

[6bblgt]

440 & HEMI had an additional 1/4" fuel return line from front to back

the vent line is just from the tank thru the trunk into a rear frame rail

I can confirm a body number as possibly correct (or IMPOSSIBLE) for a specific '68 Charger VIN

NO fender tag?

So the double line means at least a 440 or 426 ? YES
The 69 I am working on right now is a 383 car and it only has one 3/8 gas line should be 5/16"
The 68 car did not have the torque boxes so not a hemi

So do you have a list of VIN and body numbers that you have collected and can tell if the if the numbers are close enough together to be right ? YES

Another thing I was wondering about is the torsion bars as they are still in the car
How many sizes were there for 68 ? 4
Just small block and bigger big block size ?
What diameter should a 440 R/T car have ?

1968 b-body torsion bars:
#775/774 - .86" dia. = /6
#777/776 - .88" dia. = 318 & 383
#779/778 - .90" dia. = OPTIONAL
#781/780 - .92" dia. = 426 & 440

[F8-4life]

Buy it as an xp with incorrect dash.

[Kern Dog]

My 70 Charger was a 318 car. The original lines were a 1/4" vent line right next to the 5/16" fuel line.

[cdr]

My 70 Charger was a 318 car. The original lines were a 1/4" vent line right next to the 5/16" fuel line.

true for 1970, but not for 68,69

[Mike DC]

   

1968 b-body torsion bars:
#775/774 - .86" dia. = /6
#777/776 - .88" dia. = 318 & 383
#779/778 - .90" dia. = OPTIONAL
#781/780 - .92" dia. = 426 & 440

IIRC Dodge Chargers in particular got the 0.90" bars standard on 318 and 383s.  Not sure about the Chargers with slant-6 motors.

   

[Kern Dog]

My 70 Charger was a 318 car. The original lines were a 1/4" vent line right next to the 5/16" fuel line.

true for 1970, but not for 68,69

Thank you. That makes sense since it seems that there were several changes for 1970, especially fuel and emission related.

[Mopar Nut]

Didn't California cars only have the fuel vent lines?

[tan top]

 did you happen to notice if it had the Factory installed   drivers side , exhaust hanger mounting bracket , for the factory  duel exhaust cars , ie  383 hp  440 & hemi cars .. not that it means much could of easily been added ... but  could be another part of the puzzle to consider etc

[70 sublime]

did you happen to notice if it had the Factory installed   drivers side , exhaust hanger mounting bracket , for the factory  duel exhaust cars , ie  383 hp  440 & hemi cars .. not that it means much could of easily been added ... but  could be another part of the puzzle to consider etc

Yes it had two exhaust hanger brackets

[6bblgt]

NO 1968 383HP Chargers - simply 383 4bbl (383HP was Road Runner & Super Bee ONLY for 1968)

[tan top]

NO 1968 383HP Chargers - simply 383 4bbl (383HP was Road Runner & Super Bee ONLY for 1968)

thanks for the correction ,  I keep forgetting that one       

sorry for the confusion guys !!      

[Mytur Binsdirti]

Here's a good picture of the Hemi add ons:

Torque boxes, snubber reinforcement & rear frame rail gussets.....

[IDAREYOU!]

70 sublime. I just went out and measured the torsion bars for you. Using a Mitutoyo vernier I'm coming up with .930 as the most common measurement. Hope this helps.

[Kern Dog]

Here's a good picture of the Hemi add ons:

Torque boxes, snubber reinforcement & rear frame rail gussets.....

Thanks. Where are the frame rail gussets? I have a 70 Charger 500 and I can't recall my rear frame rails looking any different.

[70 sublime]

Here's a good picture of the Hemi add ons:

Torque boxes, snubber reinforcement & rear frame rail gussets.....

Thanks. Where are the frame rail gussets? I have a 70 Charger 500 and I can't recall my rear frame rails looking any different.

I believe the gussets are at the very back on the short section of frame rail that holds the rear of the leaf spring
Looks like little triangles are added to it in this location

[Kern Dog]

Yeah, I guess I need more detailed pictures of my car to show.

[Kern Dog]

...OR is it the flat metal between the frame rail and leaf spring shackle

[6bblgt]

YES

[Kern Dog]

Thanks again. I added the torque boxes to mine along with 3x3 home made frame connectors. I've wondered if my torque boxes hung lower than stock.

[70 sublime]

Back in the day of getting a 68 Charger new could you get a 440 in an XP car or as soon as you wanted a 440 it turned into an XS car ?
You wanted a little extra to pull the camper trailer but did not want a factory hot rod

[Kern Dog]

Sorry, no. There were no factory installed 440 engines in anything but R/T models. The dealers could swap in any factory engine that they wanted but the 426 and 440 engines only came as part of the R/T package.

[Troy]

Back in the day of getting a 68 Charger new could you get a 440 in an XP car or as soon as you wanted a 440 it turned into an XS car ?
You wanted a little extra to pull the camper trailer but did not want a factory hot rod

Sorry, no. There were no factory installed 440 engines in anything but R/T models. The dealers could swap in any factory engine that they wanted but the 426 and 440 engines only came as part of the R/T package.

Right, the most powerful engine in a "base model" Charger was a 383 4bbl. Same concept today - if you want a V6 in a car that comes with a 4 cylinder standard you'll have to move up on the options list along with it (usually nicer interior, trim, cruise control, etc.). My dad and I have this conversation a lot... the more loaded with options the car is the more you want the "big engine". The GTX is a perfect example. Sure, they may be fast but it seems like a lot had a buddy seat, air conditioning, column shift automatic, and so on. The heavier duty suspension also rode nicely on the highway. When you're a big wig and need to impress your clients/golf buddies you can't very well do it in a Slant Six Dart with radio delete and rubber floor mats. The Charger was already a premium priced car so even the base model could come with the nice interior and all the chrome.

Troy

[6bblgt]

the GTX was exclusively bucket seats until '70, just like the Charger

[70 sublime]

Let s talk about VIN numbers vs SO numbers

On all 1968 Dodge Chargers made when all the VIN numbers are in sequential order will that make the SO numbers in the same order and also be sequential ?

[Troy]

the GTX was exclusively bucket seats until '70, just like the Charger

Fixed it.

Troy

[moparstuart]

the GTX was exclusively bucket seats until '70, just like the Charger

Fixed it.

Troy

the 70 GTX bench with the fold down arm rest are super cool and rare 

[70 sublime]

Went for another look at the car last night and made an offer of $4500 cash that I had with me for most of the car and parts but no sale
There were very few metal pieces that were left on the car that did not require some work
Firewall looked fine and the inside of the cowl ( where the fresh air vents come through look good)
Who ever took it apart got a little carried away with the air chisel and even cut a slice in the inner roof frame that was still left on the car
It does have the R/T VIN number on the dash with an L for 440
Still no way to tie it directly to the car shell SO number with out a build sheet
The car was a 10 year project with lots and lots of money to spend to to fix what is there and buy all the parts and all the bits that go on the parts that are not there

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-classic-cars/peterborough/1968-charger-r-t/1277262334?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true

1968 Charger R/T Peterborough Peterborough Area image 1
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Date Listed   28-Jun-17
Price   
$8,000.00
Address   K0L2W0
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Make   Dodge
Model   Charger
Year   1968
Kilometers   1,000,000
For Sale By   Owner
Description
Real xs29 1968 charger r/t. Only 17,665 made. This car is a rusty skeleton. It was stripped by a body shop and has no panels. It will need partial rear rails, floor pans and all sheet metal.

The front subframe, cowl, firewall and engine bay are solid.

I have a very nice 1969 grille. Nice 1968 valance and lights for the rear. Good hood. Seats. 4 doors, 2 are power windows.
A few front valances. Bumpers. Various parts. Tinted windshield from an air car. Two 5.7 hemis. One is knocking but is from a 300c so it has the car intake and accessories. One hemi ram truck engine.
The grilles are selling for over $2000 us. This is a real R/T. It is a major project.

Ontario ownership in my name.

If your serious come check it out. $8000 or best reasonable cash offer.

24 visits and the lowballing has started already. If you don't like the condition or the price please don't respond. I have seen what r/t tags sell for themselves. I know what the grills sell for on ebay. I will only consider cash offers in person.

[alfaitalia]

To be fair to the seller , I don't think many would consider $4500 to be a "reasonable cash offer" on a car advertised for $8000 !....even if it was well overpriced in the first place!

[70 sublime]

To be fair to the seller , I don't think many would consider $4500 to be a "reasonable cash offer" on a car advertised for $8000 !....even if it was well overpriced in the first place!

I guess you have not seen any pictures of what the car really looks like

I was not getting the newer hemi stuff either

[Troy]

To be fair to the seller , I don't think many would consider $4500 to be a "reasonable cash offer" on a car advertised for $8000 !....even if it was well overpriced in the first place!

I agree. I've pulled cars off the market for that.

If that grill is absolutely perfect he may be right - otherwise he's got what I call "Barrett Jackson Syndrome". Just because a 500 original mile Hemi car in #1 condition with documentation back to the original owner's room number in the maternity ward sold for half a million it doesn't mean all the rest are worth the same. I have a pile of grills I'd let go if I could get $2,000 each for them! But seriously, if someone wanted a 68 R/T because it's an R/T then the 69 grill is mismatched. Same with the modern Hemis. He needs to sell separately if he wants to maximize profit. Bundling in this case makes no sense. It sounds like he's basically selling a dash any way.

Realizing that $8k Canadian is about $6,200 USD... I bought all the usable metal that he has as a "front clip" for $500. Well, this may have a roof and some rear structure too. Add that to the $2,000 grill and another $500-600 for the doors and valances and maybe $500 for the seats if the frames are good and you're at $3,500-3,600 for the "car". A used Hemi around here is about $1,000. The broken one I don't know but it would be nice to have the car specific pieces. So that's ~$1,600 for the VIN. Throw in $20k for AMD panels, labor, and paint and you've got a decent starting point.

Troy

[tan top]

Went for another look at the car last night and made an offer of $4500 cash that I had with me for most of the car and parts but no sale
There were very few metal pieces that were left on the car that did not require some work
Firewall looked fine and the inside of the cowl ( where the fresh air vents come through look good)
Who ever took it apart got a little carried away with the air chisel and even cut a slice in the inner roof frame that was still left on the car
It does have the R/T VIN number on the dash with an L for 440
Still no way to tie it directly to the car shell SO number with out a build sheet
The car was a 10 year project with lots and lots of money to spend to to fix what is there and buy all the parts and all the bits that go on the parts that are not there

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-classic-cars/peterborough/1968-charger-r-t/1277262334?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true

1968 Charger R/T Peterborough Peterborough Area image 1
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Date Listed   28-Jun-17
Price   
$8,000.00
Address   K0L2W0
View map
Make   Dodge
Model   Charger
Year   1968
Kilometers   1,000,000
For Sale By   Owner
Description
Real xs29 1968 charger r/t. Only 17,665 made. This car is a rusty skeleton. It was stripped by a body shop and has no panels. It will need partial rear rails, floor pans and all sheet metal.

The front subframe, cowl, firewall and engine bay are solid.

I have a very nice 1969 grille. Nice 1968 valance and lights for the rear. Good hood. Seats. 4 doors, 2 are power windows.
A few front valances. Bumpers. Various parts. Tinted windshield from an air car. Two 5.7 hemis. One is knocking but is from a 300c so it has the car intake and accessories. One hemi ram truck engine.
The grilles are selling for over $2000 us. This is a real R/T. It is a major project.

Ontario ownership in my name.

If your serious come check it out. $8000 or best reasonable cash offer.

24 visits and the lowballing has started already. If you don't like the condition or the price please don't respond. I have seen what r/t tags sell for themselves. I know what the grills sell for on ebay. I will only consider cash offers in person.

[tan top]

 

[tan top]

 

[IDAREYOU!]

Went for another look at the car last night and made an offer of $4500 cash that I had with me for most of the car and parts but no sale
There were very few metal pieces that were left on the car that did not require some work
Firewall looked fine and the inside of the cowl ( where the fresh air vents come through look good)
Who ever took it apart got a little carried away with the air chisel and even cut a slice in the inner roof frame that was still left on the car
It does have the R/T VIN number on the dash with an L for 440
Still no way to tie it directly to the car shell SO number with out a build sheet
The car was a 10 year project with lots and lots of money to spend to to fix what is there and buy all the parts and all the bits that go on the parts that are not there

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-classic-cars/peterborough/1968-charger-r-t/1277262334?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true

1968 Charger R/T Peterborough Peterborough Area image 1
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Date Listed   28-Jun-17
Price   
$8,000.00
Address   K0L2W0
View map
Make   Dodge
Model   Charger
Year   1968
Kilometers   1,000,000
For Sale By   Owner
Description
Real xs29 1968 charger r/t. Only 17,665 made. This car is a rusty skeleton. It was stripped by a body shop and has no panels. It will need partial rear rails, floor pans and all sheet metal.

The front subframe, cowl, firewall and engine bay are solid.

I have a very nice 1969 grille. Nice 1968 valance and lights for the rear. Good hood. Seats. 4 doors, 2 are power windows.
A few front valances. Bumpers. Various parts. Tinted windshield from an air car. Two 5.7 hemis. One is knocking but is from a 300c so it has the car intake and accessories. One hemi ram truck engine.
The grilles are selling for over $2000 us. This is a real R/T. It is a major project.

Ontario ownership in my name.

If your serious come check it out. $8000 or best reasonable cash offer.

24 visits and the lowballing has started already. If you don't like the condition or the price please don't respond. I have seen what r/t tags sell for themselves. I know what the grills sell for on ebay. I will only consider cash offers in person.

You offered me $4000 for the car and $500 for the grill. I realize that is $4500 combined but the grill is worth more than $500. I really didn't want my car posted here. I could have done that myself. Up here in the great white north chargers and parts are pretty hard to find and expensive. This is in canadian dollars. Why do you feel the need to discuss my car here? I told you I did not want pics. of my car on here. So you go ahead and post the kijiji link.

You tried to dispute it as an r/t but couldn't. It has two fuel lines, larger torsion bars, and drivers exhaust hanger. You have 1579 posts and I had to educate you on this and so numbers. You want the car but don't want to pay.
I sold the front seats for $700 last night and the windshield for $400. We just ebayed a grill that wasn't as nice as this and someone hit the buy it now at $1500 us. It went overseas.

You had an attitude when you were here I didn't care for. Now I see all this. I'm always checking out dodgecharger.com. I never post. I never wanted my first posts to be like this.

I always wanted a 68 R/T. I may still build it into my dream car. I sold the seats because I like the pro-touring look. I sold the windshield because it was tinted and I didn't have all tinted glass. I did not post more pics. because I don't want my car associated with a rebody. I was going to fix it. It has been stripped by a body shop to redo it. I have seen many cars on the forum like this. I have seen $15000 cars look like this when they were going to be restored, once they were stripped. He also wanted the power window doors. Which are rusty but complete.

Sorry for the rant folks at dodgecharger.com
If this is not an acceptable post please delete it. I would appreciate it if you delete the whole thread if you do.

[cdr]

 

[70 sublime]

Went for another look at the car last night and made an offer of $4500 cash that I had with me for most of the car and parts but no sale
There were very few metal pieces that were left on the car that did not require some work
Firewall looked fine and the inside of the cowl ( where the fresh air vents come through look good)
Who ever took it apart got a little carried away with the air chisel and even cut a slice in the inner roof frame that was still left on the car
It does have the R/T VIN number on the dash with an L for 440
Still no way to tie it directly to the car shell SO number with out a build sheet
The car was a 10 year project with lots and lots of money to spend to to fix what is there and buy all the parts and all the bits that go on the parts that are not there

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-classic-cars/peterborough/1968-charger-r-t/1277262334?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true

1968 Charger R/T Peterborough Peterborough Area image 1
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Date Listed   28-Jun-17
Price   
$8,000.00
Address   K0L2W0
View map
Make   Dodge
Model   Charger
Year   1968
Kilometers   1,000,000
For Sale By   Owner
Description
Real xs29 1968 charger r/t. Only 17,665 made. This car is a rusty skeleton. It was stripped by a body shop and has no panels. It will need partial rear rails, floor pans and all sheet metal.

The front subframe, cowl, firewall and engine bay are solid.

I have a very nice 1969 grille. Nice 1968 valance and lights for the rear. Good hood. Seats. 4 doors, 2 are power windows.
A few front valances. Bumpers. Various parts. Tinted windshield from an air car. Two 5.7 hemis. One is knocking but is from a 300c so it has the car intake and accessories. One hemi ram truck engine.
The grilles are selling for over $2000 us. This is a real R/T. It is a major project.

Ontario ownership in my name.

If your serious come check it out. $8000 or best reasonable cash offer.

24 visits and the lowballing has started already. If you don't like the condition or the price please don't respond. I have seen what r/t tags sell for themselves. I know what the grills sell for on ebay. I will only consider cash offers in person.

You offered me $4000 for the car and $500 for the grill. I realize that is $4500 combined but the grill is worth more than $500. I really didn't want my car posted here. I could have done that myself. Up here in the great white north chargers and parts are pretty hard to find and expensive. This is in canadian dollars. Why do you feel the need to discuss my car here? I told you I did not want pics. of my car on here. So you go ahead and post the kijiji link.

You tried to dispute it as an r/t but couldn't. It has two fuel lines, larger torsion bars, and drivers exhaust hanger. You have 1579 posts and I had to educate you on this and so numbers. You want the car but don't want to pay.
I sold the front seats for $700 last night and the windshield for $400. We just ebayed a grill that wasn't as nice as this and someone hit the buy it now at $1500 us. It went overseas.

You had an attitude when you were here I didn't care for. Now I see all this. I'm always checking out dodgecharger.com. I never post. I never wanted my first posts to be like this.

I always wanted a 68 R/T. I may still build it into my dream car. I sold the seats because I like the pro-touring look. I sold the windshield because it was tinted and I didn't have all tinted glass. I did not post more pics. because I don't want my car associated with a rebody. I was going to fix it. It has been stripped by a body shop to redo it. I have seen many cars on the forum like this. I have seen $15000 cars look like this when they were going to be restored, once they were stripped. He also wanted the power window doors. Which are rusty but complete.

Sorry for the rant folks at dodgecharger.com
If this is not an acceptable post please delete it. I would appreciate it if you delete the whole thread if you do.

Well then if that is the way you feel I can fill in the rest of my story from what I saw or did not see

I offered $4000 for the shell with the tail light panel ( laying on the floor with one set of tail lights in it) the seats and the white doors that had the busted window in one of them
I offered $500 for the grill

You were keeping the other set of tail lights , the windshield , the hood,the red doors and all the hemi parts you had listed in your ad so I was not offering $4500 for everything you had listed in your ad that you were asking $ 8000 for

You did not want any pictures posted on the condition of your car so I respected your wishes and never took any
Only pictures the world have seen is of the poor pictures you took that show nothing about what the true shell looks like
The only picture you have shows the car from the front with a hood that came from a car with a carb fire ( that is warped) and if you look real carefully at it you can tell there is no roof skin on the car
From what I saw there was not one piece of your car from the firewall back that did not need fixing or replacing

YOU were the one that kept saying the word rebody not me so that was RED FLAG number one for me
You did not want me to take the SO number and the VIN number to see how well they match up when one person replied in this thread saying that he could tell if they COULD have been born together or COULD NOT have been born together
But no you did not want me to let those numbers out on the web to as you put it to Joe Mopar that thought they knew what they were talking about
RED FLAG number two
Why did the person you bought the car from make a fake fender tag up for the car that had the matching SO number on it that called the car everything you said it was but also called it a 4 spd car which it never was originally ?
You never showed it to me but kept saying you had it

Any Dodge Charger that is worth the asking price on kijiji is ALWAYS sold in the first 12 hours of the listing

How come I was the only one to have made the trip to see it  almost a week later ??

My offer was more than fair for what was there and it would have been on me to find out if the shell you have was with out a doubt the one that the VIN came on and truly worth fixing

You also told me you bought the grill for $300 a couple months ago and I offered you $500 for it cash that I had with me

But then again you have done your research and been reading on this forum for a little over 40 hours so you know all there is to know Charger but have never fixed one up yet
While I have had over a dozen 68 69 70 Chargers over my life time and worked on them all

Good luck with your sale  

[IDAREYOU!]

Went for another look at the car last night and made an offer of $4500 cash that I had with me for most of the car and parts but no sale
There were very few metal pieces that were left on the car that did not require some work
Firewall looked fine and the inside of the cowl ( where the fresh air vents come through look good)
Who ever took it apart got a little carried away with the air chisel and even cut a slice in the inner roof frame that was still left on the car
It does have the R/T VIN number on the dash with an L for 440
Still no way to tie it directly to the car shell SO number with out a build sheet
The car was a 10 year project with lots and lots of money to spend to to fix what is there and buy all the parts and all the bits that go on the parts that are not there

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-classic-cars/peterborough/1968-charger-r-t/1277262334?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true

1968 Charger R/T Peterborough Peterborough Area image 1
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Date Listed   28-Jun-17
Price   
$8,000.00
Address   K0L2W0
View map
Make   Dodge
Model   Charger
Year   1968
Kilometers   1,000,000
For Sale By   Owner
Description
Real xs29 1968 charger r/t. Only 17,665 made. This car is a rusty skeleton. It was stripped by a body shop and has no panels. It will need partial rear rails, floor pans and all sheet metal.

The front subframe, cowl, firewall and engine bay are solid.

I have a very nice 1969 grille. Nice 1968 valance and lights for the rear. Good hood. Seats. 4 doors, 2 are power windows.
A few front valances. Bumpers. Various parts. Tinted windshield from an air car. Two 5.7 hemis. One is knocking but is from a 300c so it has the car intake and accessories. One hemi ram truck engine.
The grilles are selling for over $2000 us. This is a real R/T. It is a major project.

Ontario ownership in my name.

If your serious come check it out. $8000 or best reasonable cash offer.

24 visits and the lowballing has started already. If you don't like the condition or the price please don't respond. I have seen what r/t tags sell for themselves. I know what the grills sell for on ebay. I will only consider cash offers in person.

You offered me $4000 for the car and $500 for the grill. I realize that is $4500 combined but the grill is worth more than $500. I really didn't want my car posted here. I could have done that myself. Up here in the great white north chargers and parts are pretty hard to find and expensive. This is in canadian dollars. Why do you feel the need to discuss my car here? I told you I did not want pics. of my car on here. So you go ahead and post the kijiji link.

You tried to dispute it as an r/t but couldn't. It has two fuel lines, larger torsion bars, and drivers exhaust hanger. You have 1579 posts and I had to educate you on this and so numbers. You want the car but don't want to pay.
I sold the front seats for $700 last night and the windshield for $400. We just ebayed a grill that wasn't as nice as this and someone hit the buy it now at $1500 us. It went overseas.

You had an attitude when you were here I didn't care for. Now I see all this. I'm always checking out dodgecharger.com. I never post. I never wanted my first posts to be like this.

I always wanted a 68 R/T. I may still build it into my dream car. I sold the seats because I like the pro-touring look. I sold the windshield because it was tinted and I didn't have all tinted glass. I did not post more pics. because I don't want my car associated with a rebody. I was going to fix it. It has been stripped by a body shop to redo it. I have seen many cars on the forum like this. I have seen $15000 cars look like this when they were going to be restored, once they were stripped. He also wanted the power window doors. Which are rusty but complete.

Sorry for the rant folks at dodgecharger.com
If this is not an acceptable post please delete it. I would appreciate it if you delete the whole thread if you do.

Well then if that is the way you feel I can fill in the rest of my story from what I saw or did not see

I offered $4000 for the shell with the tail light panel ( laying on the floor with one set of tail lights in it) the seats and the white doors that had the busted window in one of them
I offered $500 for the grill

You were keeping the other set of tail lights , the windshield , the hood,the red doors and all the hemi parts you had listed in your ad so I was not offering $4500 for everything you had listed in your ad that you were asking $ 8000 for

You did not want any pictures posted on the condition of your car so I respected your wishes and never took any
Only pictures the world have seen is of the poor pictures you took that show nothing about what the true shell looks like
The only picture you have shows the car from the front with a hood that came from a car with a carb fire ( that is warped) and if you look real carefully at it you can tell there is no roof skin on the car
From what I saw there was not one piece of your car from the firewall back that did not need fixing or replacing

YOU were the one that kept saying the word rebody not me so that was RED FLAG number one for me
You did not want me to take the SO number and the VIN number to see how well they match up when one person replied in this thread saying that he could tell if they COULD have been born together or COULD NOT have been born together
But no you did not want me to let those numbers out on the web to as you put it to Joe Mopar that thought they knew what they were talking about
RED FLAG number two
Why did the person you bought the car from make a fake fender tag up for the car that had the matching SO number on it that called the car everything you said it was but also called it a 4 spd car which it never was originally ?
You never showed it to me but kept saying you had it

Any Dodge Charger that is worth the asking price on kijiji is ALWAYS sold in the first 12 hours of the listing

How come I was the only one to have made the trip to see it  almost a week later ??

My offer was more than fair for what was there and it would have been on me to find out if the shell you have was with out a doubt the one that the VIN came on and truly worth fixing

You also told me you bought the grill for $300 a couple months ago and I offered you $500 for it cash that I had with me

But then again you have done your research and been reading on this forum for a little over 40 hours so you know all there is to know Charger but have never fixed one up yet
While I have had over a dozen 68 69 70 Chargers over my life time and worked on them all

Good luck with your sale   

I have seen how these threads go. We have already had one person saying he is selling just a dash. There are no red flags It has the r/t parts. I have seen people say a car is going to rebodied because it is rough.
From the research I have done there is no way to match a 68 so to a vin.
The car came with a replacement fender tag when I got it. This could because it was lost or rotten.

I always sell my cars for what I need out of them. I don't except the first lowball that comes my way. Sometimes you have to wait to get your price.
You are still trying to dispute is an r/t even though it has the fuel lines in the original clips, larger torsion bars, and the 2 exhaust hangers.

I did pay $300 for the grill. But what I paid is irrelevant. Just because I got a great deal. That does not mean I will sell it that cheap.

You've worked on a dozen chargers and I'm the one showing you how to identify an R/T. My reference was to internet Joe not Joe mopar, no offense intended.

The thing is I have been getting the prices I wanted for my parts. $700 for the front seats, $400 for the windshield. The grill will sell for alot more than $500 lol.

I may not have restored a charger. But I have restored many mustangs.

I have bought a lot of cars. If I don't make a deal I don't run home and complain about it on the internet.

You offered me $4000 for the car. I told you I needed $5000. I told you I do not want my car on here like this.
You than come on here and post it.
This was not a very stand up thing to do in my opinion.
Sounds like sour grapes to me.

I'm done arguing about this. Say what you want. I will sell it and get what I need out of it. I always do.

[Tilar]

You offered me $4000 for the car. I told you I needed $5000. I told you I do not want my car on here like this.
You than come on here and post it.

Why would you not want the car posted on here? Just because one person doesn't want it does not mean someone else wont. Posting a potential buy is part of what happens here. This is a pretty tight group to be honest, and sometimes people post these to get opinions on the real value among people that actually own and know these cars probably better than any one person that was there when they were built. Someone might see something about the car the original poster missed which could sway the deal one way or the other. Originality is, for the most part, king around here, so knowing whether or not the dash and VIN actually came with the car is a deal breaker to most, so knowing if the VIN and SO could have come together is vital on these.

As far as getting good money out of your parts, Everyone here knows parting out an old car will bring more money than selling it whole, It's just the way it is...

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[Troy]

I have seen how these threads go. We have already had one person saying he is selling just a dash. There are no red flags It has the r/t parts. I have seen people say a car is going to rebodied because it is rough.
From the research I have done there is no way to match a 68 so to a vin.
The car came with a replacement fender tag when I got it. This could because it was lost or rotten.

I always sell my cars for what I need out of them. I don't except the first lowball that comes my way. Sometimes you have to wait to get your price.
You are still trying to dispute is an r/t even though it has the fuel lines in the original clips, larger torsion bars, and the 2 exhaust hangers.

I did pay $300 for the grill. But what I paid is irrelevant. Just because I got a great deal. That does not mean I will sell it that cheap.

You've worked on a dozen chargers and I'm the one showing you how to identify an R/T. My reference was to internet Joe not Joe mopar, no offense intended.

The thing is I have been getting the prices I wanted for my parts. $700 for the front seats, $400 for the windshield. The grill will sell for alot more than $500 lol.

I may not have restored a charger. But I have restored many mustangs.

I have bought a lot of cars. If I don't make a deal I don't run home and complain about it on the internet.

You offered me $4000 for the car. I told you I needed $5000. I told you I do not want my car on here like this.
You than come on here and post it.
This was not a very stand up thing to do in my opinion.
Sounds like sour grapes to me.

I'm done arguing about this. Say what you want. I will sell it and get what I need out of it. I always do.

I said you are selling a dash (and front clip) - but I also said that you'd be better off splitting up the parts (ie. the 69 grill and modern Hemi doesn't have a lot of value to someone who cares about the originality of a 68 R/T). Give me some credit! My point was that his offer was actually low. It wasn't clear, then, that his offer wasn't for everything.

I hate selling cars. Especially projects. I hate selling parts too but, at some point you have to do both if you like cars. I'm good at making about 80% of the buyers mad at me. I'd be beside myself if they posted pictures of my house or garage but you can't be mad about someone posting an ad from a public web site on another public web site. People repost local and internet ads on here as a way to expand the reach to a wider audience. There seem to be a lot more buyers than available cars! You have seen that people will buy cars in nearly any condition - as long as they are aware that they exist.

Sounds like I need to unload some grills!

Troy

[Dreamcar]

No disrespect meant to anyone, but I do find the kijiji add a little confusing at first glance. I would break down better what parts are included with the car for the $8k asking price, and what parts are extra $. Just my 

Also, on a 68, is the number on the trunk gutter and rad support supposed to be a partial match to the VIN on the dash? I know they are on my 69.

[Dino]

It's been 50 years. I wouldn't call it an R/T just because it has dual fuel lines, dual exhaust, and big torsion bars. My car has all of that but it sure didn't come out of the factory that way. I'm not saying that your car isn't an R/T. But I'm saying that you'll need more than those 3 items on your car to prove that it is.

In any case, I hope you are able to come to an agreement both you and the buyer are happy with.   

[Troy]

No disrespect meant to anyone, but I do find the kijiji add a little confusing at first glance. I would break down better what parts are included with the car for the $8k asking price, and what parts are extra $. Just my 

Also, on a 68, is the number on the trunk gutter and rad support supposed to be a partial match to the VIN on the dash? I know they are on my 69.

There are numbers but they aren't VIN numbers. That started in 1969. They match the SO number on the fender tag and broadcast sheet. In this case, the car doesn't have the original fender tag or broadcast sheet. It is still possible to link them.

Troy

[IDAREYOU!]

I have seen how these threads go. We have already had one person saying he is selling just a dash. There are no red flags It has the r/t parts. I have seen people say a car is going to rebodied because it is rough.
From the research I have done there is no way to match a 68 so to a vin.
The car came with a replacement fender tag when I got it. This could because it was lost or rotten.

I always sell my cars for what I need out of them. I don't except the first lowball that comes my way. Sometimes you have to wait to get your price.
You are still trying to dispute is an r/t even though it has the fuel lines in the original clips, larger torsion bars, and the 2 exhaust hangers.

I did pay $300 for the grill. But what I paid is irrelevant. Just because I got a great deal. That does not mean I will sell it that cheap.

You've worked on a dozen chargers and I'm the one showing you how to identify an R/T. My reference was to internet Joe not Joe mopar, no offense intended.

The thing is I have been getting the prices I wanted for my parts. $700 for the front seats, $400 for the windshield. The grill will sell for alot more than $500 lol.

I may not have restored a charger. But I have restored many mustangs.

I have bought a lot of cars. If I don't make a deal I don't run home and complain about it on the internet.

You offered me $4000 for the car. I told you I needed $5000. I told you I do not want my car on here like this.
You than come on here and post it.
This was not a very stand up thing to do in my opinion.
Sounds like sour grapes to me.

I'm done arguing about this. Say what you want. I will sell it and get what I need out of it. I always do.

I said you are selling a dash (and front clip) - but I also said that you'd be better off splitting up the parts (ie. the 69 grill and modern Hemi doesn't have a lot of value to someone who cares about the originality of a 68 R/T). Give me some credit! My point was that his offer was actually low. It wasn't clear, then, that his offer wasn't for everything.

I hate selling cars. Especially projects. I hate selling parts too but, at some point you have to do both if you like cars. I'm good at making about 80% of the buyers mad at me. I'd be beside myself if they posted pictures of my house or garage but you can't be mad about someone posting an ad from a public web site on another public web site. People repost local and internet ads on here as a way to expand the reach to a wider audience. There seem to be a lot more buyers than available cars! You have seen that people will buy cars in nearly any condition - as long as they are aware that they exist.

Sounds like I need to unload some grills!

Troy

Thanks for trying to be a voice of reason Troy.

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Thanks for everyone's responses and opinions.