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Shed a tear for this 70

Started by JB400, June 10, 2017, 10:11:35 PM

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pipeliner

I just hate that. The best looking front end of all of the 2nd gen. Chargers destroyed. Why couldn't it have been one of those 69 Pontiac Chargers  :smilielol:

moparstuart

Quote from: pipeliner on June 12, 2017, 03:07:28 PM
I just hate that. The best looking front end of all of the 2nd gen. Chargers destroyed. Why couldn't it have been one of those 69 Pontiac Chargers  :smilielol:
no great loss its just a billy bass mouth 70   :icon_smile_big:
GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

Daytona R/T SE

Damn it.👿

Another set of Daytona clone fenders and hood lost. 😠

Dreamcar

It would be a great time for a 69 conversion  :rofl:
"And another thing, when I gun the motor, I want people to think the world is coming to an end." - Homer Simpson

1969 Charger, 383, Q5/V1W, A35, H51, N88,  numbers match (under restoration)

moparstuart

GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

Mike DC

                                
The car should be saved if the rest of it is solid.


The body is seriously hurt, though.  Make no mistake about that.  Look at the subtle ripple in the roof above the driver's side window.  It will need professional frame pulling.
   
And it's hard to tell but I think both rear wheels are looking toed-in.  The motor might have even pushed the driveshaft back & bent the rear axlehousing. 



pipeliner

Quote from: moparstuart on June 12, 2017, 04:27:05 PM
Quote from: Dreamcar on June 12, 2017, 03:42:29 PM
It would be a great time for a 69 conversion  :rofl:
exactly  
Why would anybody want to degrade that car down to Pontiac status. I mean we're taling about taking out  the comfortable high buck buck seats and putting in some taxi cab interior, if it's a 4-speed taking out the pistol grip shifter and replacing it with a 8 ball shifter and before you know it they'll be painting it orange and putting a big 01 on the side like every other 69 Pontiac Charger :eek2:   :lolexplode:

dual fours

Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on June 12, 2017, 04:33:07 PM
                               
The car should be saved if the rest of it is solid.


The body is seriously hurt, though.  Make no mistake about that.  Look at the subtle ripple in the roof above the driver's side window.  It will need professional frame pulling.
   
And it's hard to tell but I think both rear wheels are looking toed-in.  The motor might have even pushed the driveshaft back & bent the rear axlehousing.  

Your right, look at the console, buckled down at the rear of the shifter and shoved all the way back to the rear seat.
Since 70's fenders and hoods are not Repoped yet that would make this original metal and not Chinese steel. How sad.
Most likely happen at night time, headlight door is up.
SE trim. :yesnod: It's even a fake R/T :poke: . XP29NOG
1970 Dodge Charger SE, 383 Magnum, dual fours, Winter's shifter and racing transmission.

26 END
J25 L31 M21 M31 N85 R22
VX1 AO1 A31 A47 C16 C55
FK5 CRXA TX9 A15
E63 D32 XP29 NOG

crj1968

Quote from: Offblue on June 12, 2017, 11:57:14 AM
As much as i dislike 70s chargers appearance, i'm a charger man through and through and this hurts my heart. Hope the guy who drove it looks worse, lmao joking joking. (or am i ...)

I think the driver would be lucky to be alive...

JB400

Quote from: pipeliner on June 12, 2017, 06:38:59 PM
Quote from: moparstuart on June 12, 2017, 04:27:05 PM
Quote from: Dreamcar on June 12, 2017, 03:42:29 PM
It would be a great time for a 69 conversion  :rofl:
exactly  
Why would anybody want to degrade that car down to Pontiac status. I mean we're taling about taking out  the comfortable high buck buck seats and putting in some taxi cab interior, if it's a 4-speed taking out the pistol grip shifter and replacing it with a 8 ball shifter and before you know it they'll be painting it orange and putting a big 01 on the side like every other 69 Pontiac Charger :eek2:   :lolexplode:
I take it that you're all for parting it out then since you're not up for a 69 conversion.  At least if it's converted to a 69, it'll still live as a Charger, no matter what colour it is, until the day that they make 70 metal again.

I take it that your car wears chrome lipstick that can't shut it's mouth. :nana:

dual fours

Quote from: crj1968 on June 12, 2017, 07:59:44 PM
Quote from: Offblue on June 12, 2017, 11:57:14 AM
As much as i dislike 70s chargers appearance, i'm a charger man through and through and this hurts my heart. Hope the guy who drove it looks worse, lmao joking joking. (or am i ...)

I think the driver would be lucky to be alive...
Blow up the picture looking though the door, can you find the seat belt part that should be attached to the floor?
The shoulder belt looks like it was not in use.
You'd think the steering wheel would be bent with a hit like that.
1970 Dodge Charger SE, 383 Magnum, dual fours, Winter's shifter and racing transmission.

26 END
J25 L31 M21 M31 N85 R22
VX1 AO1 A31 A47 C16 C55
FK5 CRXA TX9 A15
E63 D32 XP29 NOG

Kern Dog

I have an entire front stub from core support to the door pillars from a NON A/C 70 Belvedere, a straight 1970 bumper and brackets but no grille or valance. Those fenders should be fixable. I suspect the engine was shoved back and the trans bulged up the trans tunnel as evident by the strange angle of the rear tires.
This is a better project than a rusty POS.

crj1968

Quote from: dual fours on June 12, 2017, 08:03:54 PM
Quote from: crj1968 on June 12, 2017, 07:59:44 PM
Quote from: Offblue on June 12, 2017, 11:57:14 AM
As much as i dislike 70s chargers appearance, i'm a charger man through and through and this hurts my heart. Hope the guy who drove it looks worse, lmao joking joking. (or am i ...)

I think the driver would be lucky to be alive...
Blow up the picture looking though the door, can you find the seat belt part that should be attached to the floor?
The shoulder belt looks like it was not in use.
You'd think the steering wheel would be bent with a hit like that.

I think maybe it is...

dual fours

Blow up the front image and take a look at the hood where it's bent, (the top left /drivers side) crease see that bondo, and (passenger /front right) corner of hood, did you ever see paint so thick it stuck up like that.
1970 Dodge Charger SE, 383 Magnum, dual fours, Winter's shifter and racing transmission.

26 END
J25 L31 M21 M31 N85 R22
VX1 AO1 A31 A47 C16 C55
FK5 CRXA TX9 A15
E63 D32 XP29 NOG

69rtse4spd

Looks like a 6-way seat also, like K.D. said could be fixed if the rest of it is solid, got everything to do it, but the time.

ACUDANUT

How could you fix those fenders  ?  I am not a body guy btw.

wingcar

They say anything can be fixed with enough money and time......however, in the case of this Charger and the heavy hit it told, it's what you don't see that would concern me  :scratchchin:
1970 Daytona Charger SE "clone" (440/Auto)
1967 Charger (360,6-pak/Auto)
2008 Challenger SRT8 BLK (6.1/Auto) 6050 of 6400

pipeliner

Quote from: JB400 on June 12, 2017, 08:02:12 PM
Quote from: pipeliner on June 12, 2017, 06:38:59 PM
Quote from: moparstuart on June 12, 2017, 04:27:05 PM
Quote from: Dreamcar on June 12, 2017, 03:42:29 PM
It would be a great time for a 69 conversion  :rofl:
exactly  
Why would anybody want to degrade that car down to Pontiac status. I mean we're taling about taking out  the comfortable high buck buck seats and putting in some taxi cab interior, if it's a 4-speed taking out the pistol grip shifter and replacing it with a 8 ball shifter and before you know it they'll be painting it orange and putting a big 01 on the side like every other 69 Pontiac Charger :eek2:   :lolexplode:
I take it that you're all for parting it out then since you're not up for a 69 conversion.  At least if it's converted to a 69, it'll still live as a Charger, no matter what colour it is, until the day that they make 70 metal again.

I take it that your car wears chrome lipstick that can't shut it's mouth. :nana:
Thats right my 70 RT wears Chrome lipstick unlike its  :hah: 69 Pontiac grill wearing cousin

Dreamcar

Being in the middle of rebuilding what was a rust bucket, in a way, makes me think I'd rather have a straight rusty car vs a very bent non-rusty car like this one. If you're replacing panels and rails anyway, it's nice to have something straight to use as a reference. And bending something back doesn't always make is as strong as it once was. However, I'm saying this from the perspective of a hobbyist who works at home without any frame pulling equipment. The damage just looks so spread throughout this 70...IDK :shruggy:

"And another thing, when I gun the motor, I want people to think the world is coming to an end." - Homer Simpson

1969 Charger, 383, Q5/V1W, A35, H51, N88,  numbers match (under restoration)

JR

I'm pretty sure the console wasn't knocked back, but the bottom of the rear seat came loose and slid into the rear of the console. The rear seat bottom should be behind the door opening.
70 Charger RT top bananna /68 Charger RT triple green

Charger_Fan

Quote from: dual fours on June 12, 2017, 08:03:54 PM
You'd think the steering wheel would be bent with a hit like that.
It IS bent, the right side is folded toward the dash. That would also mean that the steering column is collapsed a bit.

Quote from: JR on June 13, 2017, 09:06:36 AM
I'm pretty sure the console wasn't knocked back, but the bottom of the rear seat came loose and slid into the rear of the console. The rear seat bottom should be behind the door opening.
:iagree: The rear seat has been pulled loose & forward. I doubt it happened during the crash, unless it wasn't attached securely before the crash.

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pipeliner

Quote from: tan top on June 11, 2017, 04:40:10 PM
:popcrn:
That car is junk. Can't you guys see where the roof is buckled? Look how far back the passenger door is. Pull the carpet back and you'll find a buckle in the floor also. Parts car.

JR

Quote from: pipeliner on June 13, 2017, 12:33:50 PM
Quote from: tan top on June 11, 2017, 04:40:10 PM
:popcrn:
That car is junk. Can't you guys see where the roof is buckled? Look how far back the passenger door is. Pull the carpet back and you'll find a buckle in the floor also. Parts car.

If it were an easily replaceable Mustang or Camaro Id agree. But, since people are going to these lengths to bring back 2nd gens:



This one is worth putting on a frame machine and checking out. If it can be bought back, I vote save it.

As a former bodyman, I would rather straighten a bent frame and replace damaged panels than try to repair rust.

Atleast once you pull the framerail straight,  you dont have to worry about the bends coming back in a few years like you do with rust.

Worst case scenario, make it a tube frame drag or road race car. Much better fate than being parted.
70 Charger RT top bananna /68 Charger RT triple green

pipeliner

Quote from: JR on June 13, 2017, 01:09:48 PM
Quote from: pipeliner on June 13, 2017, 12:33:50 PM
Quote from: tan top on June 11, 2017, 04:40:10 PM
:popcrn:
That car is junk. Can't you guys see where the roof is buckled? Look how far back the passenger door is. Pull the carpet back and you'll find a buckle in the floor also. Parts car.

If it were an easily replaceable Mustang or Camaro Id agree. But, since people are going to these lengths to bring back 2nd gens:



This one is worth putting on a frame machine and checking out. If it can be bought back, I vote save it.

As a former bodyman, I would rather straighten a bent frame and replace damaged panels than try to repair rust.

Atleast once you pull the framerail straight,  you dont have to worry about the bends coming back in a few years like you do with rust.

Worst case scenario, make it a tube frame drag or road race car. Much better fate than being parted.

You may have a good point and my brother restores cars for a living but I'd rather see a car parted out as to be jerked, pulled and yank on or cut up and be put back together with Taiwan panels. For me after all of that is done their just not to same anymore.

Dreamcar


[/quote]You may have a good point and my brother restores cars for a living but I'd rather see a car parted out as to be jerked, pulled and yank on or cut up and be put back together with Taiwan panels. For me after all of that is done their just not to same anymore.
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You'd rather see a fixable car parted out vs fixed and back on the road? How many Chargers would there be if only those that had never been fixed were left?
"And another thing, when I gun the motor, I want people to think the world is coming to an end." - Homer Simpson

1969 Charger, 383, Q5/V1W, A35, H51, N88,  numbers match (under restoration)