Shed a tear for this 70

[JB400]

This one kissed a telephone pole.  Might be good for parts for someone restoring one though.

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/cars-for-sale/dodge/charger/1960900.html

[marshallfry01]

Based on their choice of wheels, looks like it had a dumbass owner/driver. 

[Baldwinvette77]

we can rebuild it, we have the technology 

[Kern Dog]

Based on their choice of wheels, looks like it had a dumbass owner/driver. 

So a set or Rallye wheels means a better driver? Going with a set of stock 14x5.5" wheels makes a better handling, safer car? Wake up. 

[RallyeMike]

This one kissed a telephone pole.

Definitely more than a kiss, however the actual description might be limited since this is a family friendly site.

[darbgnik]

Sadly, it looks like it was a solid car...... no big flakes of filler flung out of it.

Still looks easier to fix than a lot of rust buckets for sale.

[alfaitalia]

I knew there would be a way of improving the looks of the front of the 70 model......found it!! 

[Mike DC]

   

Still looks easier to fix than a lot of rust buckets for sale.

This.  

IMO the classic car hobby has a disproportionate fear of wrecked bodies compared to rusty ones.

 

[redmist]

Damn,

I am fairly certain that car was just sold out of Boise ID, a few months back. The car was perfect for the most part on the restoration side. It didn't have those wheels on it though.

[Ryan.C]

Damn,

I am fairly certain that car was just sold out of Boise ID, a few months back. The car was perfect for the most part on the restoration side. It didn't have those wheels on it though.

It is similar but the yellow 70 running around boise had a custom center console, v21 and stainless bolts for the fenders and hood.

[polywideblock]

kissed     looks like it tried to swallow  it

[John_Kunkel]

Looks like the passenger wasn't wearing a belt. 

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[JR]

The wheels don't look bad to me. They are halibrand replicas that were painted black.



That's a shame about the accident though.

I've noticed, every time a charger shows up on Copart, there's always a story about the car being recently sold/purchased.

How is it so many clowns with 40k (or more) to spend on a classic car immediately total them after purchase? How does one acquire that sort of disposable income while being so wreckless?

[polywideblock]

like  everything else "power goes to their heads "

[stripedelete]

we can rebuild it, we have the technology 

lol.  You're dating yourself.

[70 sublime]

If the yellow car was not a rot box before it got to this point I think I would rather fix a bent solid car then work on a soft rusty car
The front fenders do not even look too bad on it

[bakerhillpins]

Somebody get cbrestorations on this one. Seems like a simple job compared to some of the other stuff he's digging into (literally).

we can rebuild it, we have the technology 

lol.  You're dating yourself.

LOL on both remarks.

[70 sublime]

TIME LEFT:   
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CURRENT BID
THE FIRST BIDDER'S SPECIFIED OFFER, WHICH BY DEFAULT IMMEDIATELY BECOMES THE "CURRENT BID" IN AN AUCTION.
$5,000 USD

Time left of the auction right now
Will see where it ends up

[cbrestorations]

I wonder what it's going to get bid up to?

[Mike DC]

  

How is it so many clowns with 40k (or more) to spend on a classic car immediately total them after purchase? How does one acquire that sort of disposable income while being so wreckless?

Disposable wealth does not always come from hard work & responsibility.  

[Dreamcar]

Based on their choice of wheels, looks like it had a dumbass owner/driver. 

So a set or Rallye wheels means a better driver? Going with a set of stock 14x5.5" wheels makes a better handling, safer car? Wake up. 

I got to agree with Kern Dog on this one.

[Offblue]

As much as i dislike 70s chargers appearance, i'm a charger man through and through and this hurts my heart. Hope the guy who drove it looks worse, lmao joking joking. (or am i ...)

[pipeliner]

I just hate that. The best looking front end of all of the 2nd gen. Chargers destroyed. Why couldn't it have been one of those 69 Pontiac Chargers 

[moparstuart]

I just hate that. The best looking front end of all of the 2nd gen. Chargers destroyed. Why couldn't it have been one of those 69 Pontiac Chargers 

no great loss its just a billy bass mouth 70   

[Daytona R/T SE]

Damn it.👿

Another set of Daytona clone fenders and hood lost. 😠

[Dreamcar]

It would be a great time for a 69 conversion 

[moparstuart]

It would be a great time for a 69 conversion 

exactly 

[Mike DC]

                                
The car should be saved if the rest of it is solid.


The body is seriously hurt, though.  Make no mistake about that.  Look at the subtle ripple in the roof above the driver's side window.  It will need professional frame pulling.
   
And it's hard to tell but I think both rear wheels are looking toed-in.  The motor might have even pushed the driveshaft back & bent the rear axlehousing. 

[pipeliner]

It would be a great time for a 69 conversion  

exactly  

Why would anybody want to degrade that car down to Pontiac status. I mean we're taling about taking out  the comfortable high buck buck seats and putting in some taxi cab interior, if it's a 4-speed taking out the pistol grip shifter and replacing it with a 8 ball shifter and before you know it they'll be painting it orange and putting a big 01 on the side like every other 69 Pontiac Charger    

[dual fours]

                               
The car should be saved if the rest of it is solid.


The body is seriously hurt, though.  Make no mistake about that.  Look at the subtle ripple in the roof above the driver's side window.  It will need professional frame pulling.
   
And it's hard to tell but I think both rear wheels are looking toed-in.  The motor might have even pushed the driveshaft back & bent the rear axlehousing.  

Your right, look at the console, buckled down at the rear of the shifter and shoved all the way back to the rear seat.
Since 70's fenders and hoods are not Repoped yet that would make this original metal and not Chinese steel. How sad.
Most likely happen at night time, headlight door is up.
SE trim. It's even a fake R/T . XP29NOG

[crj1968]

As much as i dislike 70s chargers appearance, i'm a charger man through and through and this hurts my heart. Hope the guy who drove it looks worse, lmao joking joking. (or am i ...)

I think the driver would be lucky to be alive...

[JB400]

It would be a great time for a 69 conversion  

exactly  

Why would anybody want to degrade that car down to Pontiac status. I mean we're taling about taking out  the comfortable high buck buck seats and putting in some taxi cab interior, if it's a 4-speed taking out the pistol grip shifter and replacing it with a 8 ball shifter and before you know it they'll be painting it orange and putting a big 01 on the side like every other 69 Pontiac Charger  

I take it that you're all for parting it out then since you're not up for a 69 conversion.  At least if it's converted to a 69, it'll still live as a Charger, no matter what colour it is, until the day that they make 70 metal again.

I take it that your car wears chrome lipstick that can't shut it's mouth.

[dual fours]

As much as i dislike 70s chargers appearance, i'm a charger man through and through and this hurts my heart. Hope the guy who drove it looks worse, lmao joking joking. (or am i ...)

I think the driver would be lucky to be alive...

Blow up the picture looking though the door, can you find the seat belt part that should be attached to the floor?
The shoulder belt looks like it was not in use.
You'd think the steering wheel would be bent with a hit like that.

[Kern Dog]

I have an entire front stub from core support to the door pillars from a NON A/C 70 Belvedere, a straight 1970 bumper and brackets but no grille or valance. Those fenders should be fixable. I suspect the engine was shoved back and the trans bulged up the trans tunnel as evident by the strange angle of the rear tires.
This is a better project than a rusty POS.

[crj1968]

As much as i dislike 70s chargers appearance, i'm a charger man through and through and this hurts my heart. Hope the guy who drove it looks worse, lmao joking joking. (or am i ...)

I think the driver would be lucky to be alive...

Blow up the picture looking though the door, can you find the seat belt part that should be attached to the floor?
The shoulder belt looks like it was not in use.
You'd think the steering wheel would be bent with a hit like that.

I think maybe it is...

[dual fours]

Blow up the front image and take a look at the hood where it's bent, (the top left /drivers side) crease see that bondo, and (passenger /front right) corner of hood, did you ever see paint so thick it stuck up like that.

[69rtse4spd]

Looks like a 6-way seat also, like K.D. said could be fixed if the rest of it is solid, got everything to do it, but the time.

[ACUDANUT]

How could you fix those fenders  ?  I am not a body guy btw.

[wingcar]

They say anything can be fixed with enough money and time......however, in the case of this Charger and the heavy hit it told, it's what you don't see that would concern me 

[pipeliner]

It would be a great time for a 69 conversion  

exactly  

Why would anybody want to degrade that car down to Pontiac status. I mean we're taling about taking out  the comfortable high buck buck seats and putting in some taxi cab interior, if it's a 4-speed taking out the pistol grip shifter and replacing it with a 8 ball shifter and before you know it they'll be painting it orange and putting a big 01 on the side like every other 69 Pontiac Charger  

I take it that you're all for parting it out then since you're not up for a 69 conversion.  At least if it's converted to a 69, it'll still live as a Charger, no matter what colour it is, until the day that they make 70 metal again.

I take it that your car wears chrome lipstick that can't shut it's mouth.

Thats right my 70 RT wears Chrome lipstick unlike its   69 Pontiac grill wearing cousin

[Dreamcar]

Being in the middle of rebuilding what was a rust bucket, in a way, makes me think I'd rather have a straight rusty car vs a very bent non-rusty car like this one. If you're replacing panels and rails anyway, it's nice to have something straight to use as a reference. And bending something back doesn't always make is as strong as it once was. However, I'm saying this from the perspective of a hobbyist who works at home without any frame pulling equipment. The damage just looks so spread throughout this 70...IDK

[JR]

I'm pretty sure the console wasn't knocked back, but the bottom of the rear seat came loose and slid into the rear of the console. The rear seat bottom should be behind the door opening.

[Charger_Fan]

You'd think the steering wheel would be bent with a hit like that.

It IS bent, the right side is folded toward the dash. That would also mean that the steering column is collapsed a bit.

I'm pretty sure the console wasn't knocked back, but the bottom of the rear seat came loose and slid into the rear of the console. The rear seat bottom should be behind the door opening.

The rear seat has been pulled loose & forward. I doubt it happened during the crash, unless it wasn't attached securely before the crash.

[pipeliner]

That car is junk. Can't you guys see where the roof is buckled? Look how far back the passenger door is. Pull the carpet back and you'll find a buckle in the floor also. Parts car.

[JR]

That car is junk. Can't you guys see where the roof is buckled? Look how far back the passenger door is. Pull the carpet back and you'll find a buckle in the floor also. Parts car.

If it were an easily replaceable Mustang or Camaro Id agree. But, since people are going to these lengths to bring back 2nd gens:



This one is worth putting on a frame machine and checking out. If it can be bought back, I vote save it.

As a former bodyman, I would rather straighten a bent frame and replace damaged panels than try to repair rust.

Atleast once you pull the framerail straight,  you dont have to worry about the bends coming back in a few years like you do with rust.

Worst case scenario, make it a tube frame drag or road race car. Much better fate than being parted.

[pipeliner]

That car is junk. Can't you guys see where the roof is buckled? Look how far back the passenger door is. Pull the carpet back and you'll find a buckle in the floor also. Parts car.

If it were an easily replaceable Mustang or Camaro Id agree. But, since people are going to these lengths to bring back 2nd gens:



This one is worth putting on a frame machine and checking out. If it can be bought back, I vote save it.

As a former bodyman, I would rather straighten a bent frame and replace damaged panels than try to repair rust.

Atleast once you pull the framerail straight,  you dont have to worry about the bends coming back in a few years like you do with rust.

Worst case scenario, make it a tube frame drag or road race car. Much better fate than being parted.

You may have a good point and my brother restores cars for a living but I'd rather see a car parted out as to be jerked, pulled and yank on or cut up and be put back together with Taiwan panels. For me after all of that is done their just not to same anymore.

[Dreamcar]

[/quote]You may have a good point and my brother restores cars for a living but I'd rather see a car parted out as to be jerked, pulled and yank on or cut up and be put back together with Taiwan panels. For me after all of that is done their just not to same anymore.
[/quote]

You'd rather see a fixable car parted out vs fixed and back on the road? How many Chargers would there be if only those that had never been fixed were left?

[Mike DC]

           
Agreed. 

It's not that a bent car is an easy fix.  It isn't. 

But people are fixing cars with even worse rust damage every day of the week. 

[pipeliner]

And I know that but I get tired of hearing the it's worth fixing especially from the guys throwing the it's got the original matching numbers drivetrain. Then they repair every rotted panel with Taiwan sheet metal and give it a now its worth top dollar value because its numbers matching. That's so deceitful. Well what about the original body panels. Where are they at? To me a car with original body panels should be worth as much as a car with the original drivetrain. Take a car that has both then it should be top dollar. Dont get me wrong I would love for all of cars to be saved but please value them accordingly for what they are.

[Dreamcar]

And I know that but I get tired of hearing the it's worth fixing especially from the guys throwing the it's got the original matching numbers drivetrain. Then they repair every rotted panel with Taiwan sheet metal and give it a now its worth top dollar value because its numbers matching. That's so deceitful. Well what about the original body panels. Where are they at? To me a car with original body panels should be worth as much as a car with the original drivetrain. Take a car that has both then it should be top dollar. Dont get me wrong I would love for all of cars to be saved but please value them accordingly for what they are.

From what I've seen, survivors are fetching way more than those that have been fixed with new panels, regardless of the numbers. I don't expect mine to be worth as much as a survivor even though my numbers match. But the resale value is market driven...Buyers are willing to pay those prices. And the listed prices are not necessarily what the car sells for. It has to be said too that by keeping more on the road, it keeps them from being so rare and keeps the prices from being ridiculous. I'd much rather drive a restored car that can be restored again if something bad happens VS parking and staring at a true survivor in my garage that I'm too scared to drive...unless I could afford both but I can't.

[Lennard]

And I know that but I get tired of hearing the it's worth fixing especially from the guys throwing the it's got the original matching numbers drivetrain. Then they repair every rotted panel with Taiwan sheet metal and give it a now its worth top dollar value because its numbers matching. That's so deceitful. Well what about the original body panels. Where are they at? To me a car with original body panels should be worth as much as a car with the original drivetrain. Take a car that has both then it should be top dollar. Dont get me wrong I would love for all of cars to be saved but please value them accordingly for what they are.

So if the sheet metal was made in the USA, it would have been okay? 

[Mike DC]

  
Yes, agreed.

Survivors (whole cars, not VIN tags) are the top of the heap.  It just took the hobby a while to figure that out.  

People usually don't start respecting the value of something until it gets rare.  People didn't see the value in unrestored survivors until they become rarer than nice restorations.  25 years ago people thought the highest honor you could show to an original HemiCuda with a few nicks & scratches, was to repaint it.  There were lots of original surviving muscle cars back then with nicks & scratches, but fewer restored ones. 


The next step is for people to start liking rougher cars.  And its happening.  The rat-rod thing has been taking root with muscle cars.  It's a natural response to the world of today:  $70k restored muscle cars aren't hard to find.  But it's rare to see one that is intact but scruffy enough to enjoy.  

[alfaitalia]

I would not be repairing that....its just too bent. I would go as far as to say it will never drive straight again. If it was not for the popped roof I might have thought about it....but the whole shell is bent. That has absorbed a lot of energy....if it does not have ripples in the floor and chassis rails I would be amazed. She's a goner.

[Mike DC]

 
So let's pry it back out to near-straight, strip off everything usable, and use it for a Dukesfest jump car.  The whole hobby will instantly decide it was a restorable car that was wasted.

[Dreamcar]

 
So let's pry it back out to near-straight, strip off everything usable, and use it for a Dukesfest jump car.  The whole hobby will instantly decide it was a restorable car that was wasted.

That's exactly what would happen.

I would not get into fixing that car without expecting that every panel and rail from the firewall forward is junk. Once all of that is removed, then the challenge would be pull back what's left. Like alfaitalia said, the roof is a big sign of serious damage. Hopefully, the A-pillar/cowl would be ok.

[pipeliner]

I absolutely love survivor cars but I'm not into the purposely made rat rod look. Just not my cup of tea. Everybody likes their own look and has their own thing going for them and I totally respect that. I don't care if you use Taiwan parts or parts made in the USA they only made original body panel parts 1 time and that's why I gave $3k for a set of 70 NOS quarters 10 years ago off of ebag.

[Mike DC]

I absolutely love survivor cars but I'm not into the purposely made rat rod look. Just not my cup of tea. Everybody likes their own look and has their own thing going for them and I totally respect that. I don't care if you use Taiwan parts or parts made in the USA they only made original body panel parts 1 time and that's why I gave $3k for a set of 70 NOS quarters 10 years ago off of ebag.

It just depends on the project. 

Some cars totally deserve $3000 NOS quarters.  Some totally don't. 

[JR]

Again, speaking as a former body man, if a frame machine can pull the critical points back in check, save it. Sure metal is weakened after being pulled, but you can't tell me it's honestly that much more unsafe than a rusty car that had 70% of its steel replaced anyway.

And again, if the frame can't be salvaged, perfect excuse​ for a tube frame race car. Or maybe one of those Schwartz full chassis kits. Like what's under this GTX.





Or build it into a tube frame vintage stock car replica like this Chevelle.






Either is a better outcome than losing another second gen completely just because it "wouldn't be the same".