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71 dodge charger project 383 Factory Air

Started by chapel40, June 06, 2017, 07:13:12 AM

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chapel40

Just starting this project, car has been sitting indoors for about 15 years. Runs but has a knock, bell housing cracked from hitting something, rear end leaking on rear brakes LH side, some rust on front floors- rear quarters down low-under battery box-cracked windshield-cracked dash-hideaways work but have some broken pieces. Could go on for quite a while but that gives you an idea.
  Going to make it a clean driver with working A/C and pep up the 383. Like the centerline wheels but they stick out a bit, the deep dish is cool so I need to figure out if I want to narrow the rear end to tuck them in a bit. If I get the correct rims they will not be deep. It has 60s on the back and 70s on the front I believe.
  Pulling the motor and transmission. work on them and the engine compartment and put them back in. Rear end as well, by then I will know how far I want to go with the sheetmetal before driving it.

What do you guys think about the paint job? I kind of like the 70-80s look and makes it very rememberable. Maybe for the state trooper too huh.

Don Chapel
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chapel40

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Bad B-rad

Very good looking car, love the fuzzy dice.
Good luck with it!

71_Charger_R/T

Welcome to the forum!
Not a fan of the paint, but, it's your car and you can do it the way YOU like it ......   The car looks like its in pretty decent shape! Those grilles would look much much better if you took some steel wool to them and got the black paint off the ribs. Those are the best looking grilles they ever put on the third gen. Chargers!  Looks to be an SE (special edition).
Post some more pics. We ALL like pictures!
You said "bell housing cracked"  Is it a four speed car or automatic?
Keep the pictures coming!

chapel40

Its a console slapstick automatic 727. Looks like someone ran it up on something and it pushed it up a bit and cracked in the middle about 2 inches. Im not going for the completely stock car. Matter of fact I just bought a set of hideaways that are not exactly like the ones it has, must be off of a 73 or 74. has more vertical braces. Hopefully when I clean the fuzzy dice they do not fall apart lol. I will get more pictures, its kind of a pain that they have to be resized for the forum.
Don Chapel

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71_Charger_R/T

That would be a '72 grille if it has the 7 vertical braces in the open grille as opposed to 3 verticals on the '71.  For posting pictures, I've found it easier to use a photo host like "photobucket" or the likes. upload the photo to the host and post a link to the photo and it shows up full size without messing around.

chapel40

Pretty supprised, I use to have a 72 318 car and I could jump in there and work on the engine pretty easy. This 383 is massive and everything is a lot tighter. Still beats modern cars though.
Don Chapel

ralley72

Love it. I would leave the paint as is, clean the black off the hideaways, make it mechanically sound and enjoy. Good to see another 3rd gen getting some attention.  :2thumbs:

Mike
1973 Roadrunner 400 mag. 4 sp

CDN72SE

Ditto, nice to see another 3rd gen. Welcome to the site and nice car.
1972 Charger SE

XH29N0G

I think the paint is about as excellent as it could ever be.  I look forward to seeing it develop.

Have fun with the car.
Who in their right mind would say

"The science should not stand in the way of this."? 

Science is just observation and hypothesis.  Policy stands in the way.........

Or maybe it protects us. 

I suppose it depends on the specific case.....

chapel40

Engine about ready to pull, toying around with the idea of stroking the 383 and adding aluminum heads. The car is heavy so I want to make as much HP I can reasonably make without going crazy. Going to get the 383 block checked and machined, then will order the parts.

Has anyone here built a 496 stroker from a 383?
Don Chapel

ACUDANUT

Quote from: chapel40 on June 10, 2017, 11:02:31 AM
Engine about ready to pull, toying around with the idea of stroking the 383 and adding aluminum heads. The car is heavy so I want to make as much HP I can reasonably make without going crazy. Going to get the 383 block checked and machined, then will order the parts.

Has anyone here built a 496 stroker from a 383?

Depends on your wallet.  Does the 383 run good ?  If so leave it and get a better paint job.  :Twocents:
BTW what planet are you from. Your profile is blank.
You would be surprised, you might have a close neighbor here that can help you out.

chapel40

Engine knocks, that's why Im pulling it. I live in Bourg, La. next to Houma, about an hour southwest of New Orleans.
Don Chapel

71 SE3834V

Welcome from a fellow '71 SE 383 factory ac owner with 18 options. My car was 95% complete when I bought it and now it only has a few pieces wrong or missing so if you have any questions about originality let me know.
I just finished up replacing the rear axle seals on my driver. You may have the same axle, 8.75" w/3.23 ratio.
71 Charger SE 383 4V
72 Galaxie 500 400 2V

chapel40

Don Chapel

CDN72SE

Wore the same footwear when I removed my engine, lol.
1972 Charger SE

chapel40

Yeah a bunch of buddies gave me heck about it. We have to wear safety shoes at work. Of course that's the first thing they noticed.

Found a rod that was a diff brand than the others and a scorched area on the crank next to a rod. Looks kind of strange. Ill post pics once I get it where I can flip it over and see it well.
Don Chapel

EccentricMagpies

Quote from: ralley72 on June 06, 2017, 06:39:10 PM
Love it. I would leave the paint as is, clean the black off the hideaways, make it mechanically sound and enjoy. Good to see another 3rd gen getting some attention.  :2thumbs:

Mike

I agree
'74 Rallye 4spd (WH23L4) (1 of 94)
'74 Rallye Auto (WH23L4) (quad black)
'69 Swinger 340 - 4spd
'70 Duster 340 - 4spd

chapel40

Well heck!!! Pulled the heads off and measured the bore size and it was huge!! Man this thing must be worn out!!

Got to looking at the block numbers and turns out it is a 400 block!! Wheww!!

440 Source has a 512 ci and a 500 ci stroker kit for it. The 500 CI has very short and light pistons and the oil ring is actually going over the wrist pin hole!! Is there a down side to this piston as far as longevity? It says it will rev like a motorcycle.
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chapel40

Found some overheating on the crank and two rods. One bearing was pretty loose, you can see that the crank is funky and burned oil on rod and crank. The lighter color rod doesn't match the others. the others were marked for their location and one was replaced. It was the loose one.
Don Chapel

ACUDANUT

Quote from: chapel40 on July 11, 2017, 07:57:16 PM
Well heck!!! Pulled the heads off and measured the bore size and it was huge!! Man this thing must be worn out!!

Got to looking at the block numbers and turns out it is a 400 block!! Wheww!!

440 Source has a 512 ci and a 500 ci stroker kit for it. The 500 CI has very short and light pistons and the oil ring is actually going over the wrist pin hole!! Is there a down side to this piston as far as longevity? It says it will rev like a motorcycle.

Cool, how much ?  :popcrn:

chapel40

Don Chapel

ACUDANUT

Should be a fast car with over 500 HP.  The machine shop work could get expensive.

chapel40

Local shop said they could bore and prep the block for $400-$500
Don Chapel

chapel40

My friend came over to help take the engine apart and dropped a piston on his foot while wearing flip flops lol. Guess we will have to wear something with a little more protection. Piston was okay though. Haha :smilielol:
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chapel40

Cant seem to make a lot of time to work on it. I think I will work on just getting it ready to drive and have some fun with it. May just let a shop do some body work on it once its on the road and take it a little at a time.It actually looks cool the way it is. Rat Rod I guess..... Maybe when I can work one job instead of two I can put more time in it. :'(
Don Chapel

Kern Dog

Quote from: chapel40 on July 07, 2017, 12:19:47 AM
Yeah a bunch of buddies gave me heck about it. We have to wear safety shoes at work. Of course that's the first thing they noticed.


Safety is for wimps. Real men have scars and stories.   :2thumbs:

jwells1993

any clue what color orange that is??? looks like a nice little project good luck and have fun :2thumbs:
keep on keepin on

chapel40

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chapel40

400 is at the machine shop getting the 440 source 512 stroker rotating assy installed. Getting excited but still a lot of work on the body and drivetrain.
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chapel40

New 440 source 512 pics. rotating assy. installed!!
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chapel40

More 512 pics
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moparstuart

GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

darbgnik

Looks exciting. Did you have the machine shop assemble the rotating assembly?
Brad

1970 Charger 500. Born a 318, AC, console auto, now 440/727
Build thread:  http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,127291.0.html

chapel40

I had a local shop put it together. I have not been on here in a while!!
Don Chapel

chapel40

Sent the car to a local restoration shop called Road Hog LLC Here in Houma, La. for metal work and paint. Here it is right before sent.
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chapel40

Biggest problem I had with the body was the upper air cowl rust under the windshield bottom trim, some behind the kick panels and front floor for about a foot. Then the usual around the front and back of the wheels. Otherwise the car is excellent, even the rest of the cowl. They do not make it of course.
Don Chapel

CDN72SE

1972 Charger SE

chapel40

Here is a current pic
Don Chapel

Hard Charger


chapel40

Not a lot of activity on this site. Maybe because its a 71?
Don Chapel

JB400

No issue at all with 71's.  Most people post in the mornings while sipping the morning cup

Metal work looks pretty good

chargervert

You are making a lot of progress!  I have a 71 Charger R / T that is a rolling shell,that I was going to build from the ground up,but I just picked up another 71 Charger R / T from Arizona, that needs no metal work at all. I am going to sell the rolling shell. It's a 440 Magnum, 4 speed, Dana car with the Ramcharger hood. There are quite a few people who are into the third generation Chargers on here. Second generation Chargers are my first love,but third generation Chargers have grown on me, and I currently have 5 of them.

ACUDANUT


chargervert

I have three  71 Charger R / T s,a 71 383 Charger SE, and a 73 Charger. I have the 71 SE sold,and I am going to sell the rolling shell of the 71 Charger R / T. I am also selling my 70 Charger R / T 440 Sixpack car too. Too many projects, not enough time left to get them done.