Ahhh crap! Not again! GL Jump car

[moparfied]

What happened twenty five years ago,while they were filming a corny TV show,cannot be changed,like I stated before,they were just considered worn out old Dodges,what I cannot excuse,is the senseless distruction of a rare muscle car for the entertainment of idiots! Theres no defending these losers,it was moronic what they did! End of story,and no Charger owner can defend them,with a clear conscience! As far as tubbed cars,most of them had rotted out frames to begin with. i would not tub a car that was not wasted back there,but thats just me. Some people would. A prostreet Charger will still be around. A racecar,does take the chance of being damaged or destroyed everytime it is raced,but a jumped car is doomed!  I will say it again,with 8 seasons of them jumping Chargers on that show,and tons of stunt footage,there was no need to Damage any Chargers for the last movie! An orange car jumping something back then still looks the same doing it now!

[Mike DC]

As far as tubbed cars,most of them had rotted out frames to begin with. i would not tub a car that was not wasted back there,but thats just me. Some people would. A prostreet Charger will still be around.

And most of the jumper cars had rotted frames too.  And I could argue that a jumped car is still around after it's jumped, too.  It just needs most of a new frame, as does a tubbed car. 

(Yeah, I know I'm playing Devil's Advocate at this point, and a jumped car is not exactly the same thing as a tubbed car.  But IMHO they're not as different as the hobby likes to think.)

A racecar,does take the chance of being damaged or destroyed everytime it is raced,but a jumped car is doomed! 

That's why I said I can probably come up with at least one crashed Charger per year in various racing incidents, versus one jump a year at "Dukesfest."  Yeah, it's planned at Dukesfest.  But every street punk & professional racer knows the risks of racing, too. 
Also - I'll bet the average Dukesfest Charger is a lot worst condition than some of the Chargers wrecked in racing crashes. 

I will say it again,with 8 seasons of them jumping Chargers on that show,and tons of stunt footage,there was no need to Damage any Chargers for the last movie! An orange car jumping something back then still looks the same doing it now!

Talk to Hollywood on that one.  Plenty of DOH fans would agree with you.
The offhand reason for new footage would be the need for it to look "professional."  (Widescreen, good film quality, etc.) 

And besides, most of the $80 million bucks the movie made didn't come from diehard Dodge Charger owners.  Most of the viewers were just there to see a dopey movie.  They would just consider it "getting cheap" if the footage was all recycled.  Warner Bros wouldn't want the story going around that they were charging people $8.50 for a movie ticket just to watch 25-year-old footage that's on cable TV every afternoon for free.  The option of recycling old footage was never even on the table, unfortunately.

 

[Ghoste]

But, how many people watch a car get wrecked in a race or a car accident and think, "cool, I'm going to go get in a car wreck", and how many watch a General Lee jump and think, "cool, I'm gonna jump a Charger"?
Probably fewer want to emulate the wreck than the jump but at the end of the day, we come to the original point of the thread (I think, I'm kinda losing track here)which was that these Chevy fans decided to destroy a Charger on purpose and they used a GL as their victim.
Who are we really mad at, Warner Brothers or the Chevelle Bozos?

[JimShine]

As far as emulation goes. I think one of the very few good aspects of these recent jumps is it drives home the reality of jumping a big, heavy, and valuable car. The old show concealed this reality. Yeah, in the first few years we saw lots of damage, but they changed that as the car became more popular. There were few pictures of wrecked GL's out in circualtion. It was easy for the weakminded to believe it was okay to jump a car because in their mind there was only one or two General Lee's and it could hit the road running. Now with the movie and the web videos of these jumps, it is easy to see that a jump kills them dead everytime. I don't think many want to emulate that.

[Ghoste]

Very good point Jim.

[mikepmcs]

As far as emulation goes. I think one of the very few good aspects of these recent jumps is it drives home the reality of jumping a big, heavy, and valuable car. The old show concealed this reality. Yeah, in the first few years we saw lots of damage, but they changed that as the car became more popular. There were few pictures of wrecked GL's out in circualtion. It was easy for the weakminded to believe it was okay to jump a car because in their mind there was only one or two General Lee's and it could hit the road running. Now with the movie and the web videos of these jumps, it is easy to see that a jump kills them dead everytime. I don't think many want to emulate that.

wicked smaaaaart! good point!

come up and drink some beers!

[Mike DC]

 
Very true.
I think the recent live shows have been a 100% deterrent against trying it at home. 

You guys who haven't been there . . . it's hard to convey just how VIOLENT those jumps really are.  Video doesn't do it justice at all.  Standing a dozen yards away from the jumps & rollovers, I've felt some of the impacts through the ground in my feet. 

Everybody walks away saying "That was awesome!," but I've never heard anybody walking away saying "I'm gonna try that!" 
A lot more people walk away mystified that anybody can be convinced to drive those stunts at all.

   

[moparfied]

The whole point of this thread is to make the point,that these A hole Chevy lovers,do not make destroying Chargers a regular thing! I know some of the guys are die hard Dukes of Hazzard fans,but if it wasn\\\'t for that show,than this would not be still happening! The show did bring the Charger popularity,but there was a price for it,and even though the price of Chargers has skyrocketed,it has not detured jackasses from senselessly wrecking them for a cheap thrill!

[StuntMan]

so now a few months later $30k for it.. no bids.. and now $19k. so if it has all that fame and you hype it up so much.. why throw it on ebay? you have the coolest lee ever! right??

It's amazing to see that there are still those out there that don't understand the basiscs of an "auction". So here's a lesson for Mr. Charger: 30 thousand, 19 thousand, etc, those are what are called opening bids - not final purchase price. So now you know the difference. My opening bid of 19 is exactly that - an opening bid. If you honestly didn't know the difference then you are to be pitied.

And yes, thank you, I did own the coolest Lee ever. And now someone else will enjoy it, someone who understood the full impact of what "Last Lee built by the WB" meant and had the appropriate cash to put it in their collection. That's the difference between silly dreamers and true collectors. The ability to discern and recognize between an investment and rusty lawn ornaments.

Just answering your clever post.

[Mike DC]

   

Maybe we should just let this thread die off.  We've all made our points a couple times over.

 

[limey]

And yes, thank you, I did own the coolest Lee ever.
Just answering your clever post.

Your opinion buddy....
I'm sure I can think of several other GL's out there that are either rescued and restored ex WB cars, or meticulously re created by Die hard fans.....
At the end of the day once a Charger is a GL the difference in coolness is how meticulously it is prepared, attention to detail etc.

There are a lot of other Generals out their that have a massive "cool" factor to those that appreciate the car......John Schneider's own ex WB GL for a start. When he drives that thing around, I don't think anyone is going to beat him for cool in DoH terms...
L

PS Mike....I think you are right...lets leave this thread alone....it might encourage Stuntman to post in a different thread and allow him to demonstrate his interest and knowledge of all things Mopar....the poor guy has been limited in his input to just posting in this one thread because of our ranting.......

[Crazy Larry]

It's amazing to see that there are still those out there that don't understand the basiscs of an "auction". So here's a lesson for Mr. Charger: 30 thousand, 19 thousand, etc, those are what are called opening bids - not final purchase price. So now you know the difference. My opening bid of 19 is exactly that - an opening bid. If you honestly didn't know the difference then you are to be pitied.

And yes, thank you, I did own the coolest Lee ever. And now someone else will enjoy it, someone who understood the full impact of what "Last Lee built by the WB" meant and had the appropriate cash to put it in their collection. That's the difference between silly dreamers and true collectors. The ability to discern and recognize between an investment and rusty lawn ornaments.

Just answering your clever post.

How much did that "true collector" pay for the thing?

Maybe I'm getting this wrong - maybe you aren't the one who orchestrated the recently wrecked Charger - but there is a member on this forum that had/sold the general lee jump car that was used in the DOH movie and it made it through 3 jumps (from what I gather). That wrecked Charger went for less than $19,000 - and it was a Hollywood/official jump car, not some half-baked side-show stunt car.

then again, I may be mistaken that you are the owner and one who decided to wreck that great piece of automobile excellence.

[StuntMan]

PS Mike....I think you are right...lets leave this thread alone....it might encourage Stuntman to post in a different thread and allow him to demonstrate his interest and knowledge of all things Mopar....the poor guy has been limited in his input to just posting in this one thread because of our ranting.......

You guys are right. And I shouldn't be reacting to 692002. That guy has always had something against me and it's hard to resist responding to his bashing. "Shall we lay down and die...?" 

Anyway, I am a Mopar guy who loves Chargers and would like to continue where I left this site about a year ago. Opinions shouldn't produce hard feelings 692002; if you didn't think my car was cool you don't need to be so freakin sarcastic. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

And as far as orchestrating that jump - it was a guy named Ronnie Duke, a multi-millionaire who owns hardcore racing. Your grief is with that guy.

Cheers

[69charger2002]

How much did that "true collector" pay for the thing?

Maybe I'm getting this wrong - maybe you aren't the one who orchestrated the recently wrecked Charger - but there is a member on this forum that had/sold the general lee jump car that was used in the DOH movie and it made it through 3 jumps (from what I gather). That wrecked Charger went for less than $19,000 - and it was a Hollywood/official jump car, not some half-baked side-show stunt car.

yeah crazy larry.. that car you are talking about was a member on this site's lol it was MINE.. i sold it for $18,600 on ebay, which is oddly enough the same site i am accused of not knowing how it works.

You guys are right. And I shouldn't be reacting to 692002. That guy has always had something against me and it's hard to resist responding to his bashing. "Shall we lay down and die...?" 

i have nothing against you personally, nor your car.. you started bashing me and my "not available" 50 chargers, err no, let me rephrase.. my "lawn ornaments".. if you get $50k for your car i'm more than happy for you.. but i'll admit the self glorification of that car just to get an extra buck later on ebay is kind of a nuisance.. i didn't go advertising my jump movie car as the "last lee built by WB" which technically it could have been at the time.. and i sold it for $18,600.. and only a handful of people even knew i had the car.. let's just let bygones be bygones, and lastly, i don't have any problem with your association with the michigan jump car, if you were there.. fine. if you even jumped the damn car personally.. fine. whatever.. i didn't have a problem till you ripped on me owning 50 unavailable chargers. i took offense to that. and i don't think i was wrong for that
trav

[moparfied]

Did you guys get that! The guys name is Ronnie Duke !!!!!!!!!!! He must be that bastard Duke cousin in the family!!!! The one who would waste his millions to destroy Charger R/Ts for a hobby! Now wonder uncle Jessie Chased him out of Hazzard! He was a Charger molester!

[SeattleCharger]

  smashing up that Charger:

  stupid     

[AKcharger]

The good news is for those of us with cars the value keeps going up!

[Mike DC]

 
12-year-old thread.

[Baldwinvette77]

i always find it ironic that a car community that enjoys restoring 50 year old cars hate reviving 12 year old threads about the 50 year old cars 

[AKcharger]

i always find it ironic that a car community that enjoys restoring 50 year old cars hate reviving 12 year old threads about the 50 year old cars 

I like to consider myself the office "random thread reanimator"

[Lennard]

i always find it ironic that a car community that enjoys restoring 50 year old cars hate reviving 12 year old threads about the 50 year old cars 

I don't see/read/notice any hate.