clone vs modified

[mustanghater]

how come when you stick a hemi in a 383 Roadrunner it is considered a clone? But what if the Roadrunner has 19in cragers in the back and painted up in flames is it considered a clone or a modified? with clones going for so much money you never here about modified going for top dollar. another thing I wanted to point out is the prices for mopars.15 years ago you could buy a hemi for 10,000 now some are going for over 100,000. and prodution numbers they made more hemi cudas then hurst 300's but you don't see hurst 300's going into the triple digits.

[RD]

simple:

clone - a vehicle painted, dressed, and optioned to look as original as possible, in most cases referenced to be highly desireable, low-production vehicle, but in all actuality a vehicle that was not as it seems.

modified - any vehicle modified with aftermarket parts that makes it non-original

hurst 300 vs hemicuda-  just because its rare does not mean its desireable.

hope this helps ya.

[Troy]

Rare does not equal expensive (see slant 6 Charger values). Hurst 300s are hideously ugly. Price is almost totally dependent on desirability from the buyer's perspective.

As for clones, a "clone" means a "copy". "Modified" generally means you took what you had and (attempted) to make it better. Modified cars are usually tailored to the owner's tastes - not necessarily to the tastes of a potential buyer. Since the buyers set the price so if they aren't impressed then the car won't sell for a lot.

Troy

[kab69440]

Hurst 300s are hideously ugly.

Troy

:icon_smile_shock:WHAT??!!!!!!

[Silver R/T]

I like modified aka hot rod

[Brock Samson]

MH you dont read the replys to the threads you start?.. 

[IBsmokin]

clones are what is made when someone cant afford the real thing, ie, taking a lemans and slapping GTO emblems on it, taking a mid to late 60's saterlitte and putting GTX emblems, or a 69 to 74 satelitte and slapping roadrunner emblems on it.
taking a normal low economy 1968 to 1970 dodge coronet and changing emblems, engine, paint sceme etc. and making it look like a superbee.   etc... I dont think there is nothing wrong with clones, there are certain cars I can not afford to buy, so i would build a clone just so I can have a semi copy of the expensive car I like,   I love the 1967 GTO but couldnt afford one so i would buy a 67 lemans for a fraction of the cost and change all the lemans emblems to a GTO and whatever modification I needed, and for the average joe they would believe i really owned a 67 GTO.   I really love super bees, but can not afford one, so I have no problem transforming an inexpensive slant six coronet or a 318 1971 dodge charger into my very own super bee.

[Troy]

Hurst 300s are hideously ugly.

Troy

:icon_smile_shock:WHAT??!!!!!!

Do I really need to say "in my opinion"? If I could find one I'd almost immediately trade it for a car I like and I surely wouldn't be willing to pay much for it. If I suddenly had waaaaaay too much money then I'd probably buy every cool old car I could find but... I'm poor so I buy what I like.

Troy

[ChargerHound69]

So what would a 1968 or 1970 or 2006 General Lee be,     Clone, Replica, or Modified???

[Troy]

So what would a 1968 or 1970 or 2006 General Lee be,   Clone, Replica, or Modified???

One would be "rediculous" - you can figure out which one. The original show used 68s for many of the General Lees and the 70 is at least close to the right body style. None would technically be "clones" because the General Lee itself wouldn't have been a production vehicle. However, I guess you can clone racecars so who knows. The terms aren't exactly well-defined.

Troy

[ChargerHound69]

Very good answer, but if you notice from any Dukes of hazzard show, they all seem to look like 1969.

[694spdRT]

So what would a 1968 or 1970 or 2006 General Lee be,   Clone, Replica, or Modified???

I would go with an inaccurate "replica" for describing '68 and '70 Generals if they are not made to look like 1969's. Clones to me are cars made to resemble desirable factory produced vehicles, not Hollywood creations.   

On the 2006 it is just plain wrong no matter what.   

[Troy]

Very good answer, but if you notice from any Dukes of hazzard show, they all seem to look like 1969.

I didn't say what they looked like - only what they used.

Troy

[ChargerHound69]

The 2006 4 door General Lee

[kab69440]

Hurst 300s are hideously ugly.

Troy

:icon_smile_shock:WHAT??!!!!!!

Do I really need to say "in my opinion"? If I could find one I'd almost immediately trade it for a car I like and I surely wouldn't be willing to pay much for it. If I suddenly had waaaaaay too much money then I'd probably buy every cool old car I could find but... I'm poor so I buy what I like.

Troy

A drop-top '70 300-Hurst is my second most coveted fantasy ride. Ugly? Aw, c'mon!

[Old Moparz]

Hurst 300s are hideously ugly.

Troy

:icon_smile_shock:WHAT??!!!!!!

Do I really need to say "in my opinion"? If I could find one I'd almost immediately trade it for a car I like and I surely wouldn't be willing to pay much for it. If I suddenly had waaaaaay too much money then I'd probably buy every cool old car I could find but... I'm poor so I buy what I like.

Troy

A drop-top '70 300-Hurst is my second most coveted fantasy ride. Ugly? Aw, c'mon!

Hey Troy,
Whether you think they're ugly or not, you'd have to admit you wouldn't mind watching Miss Hurst Shifter doing a pole dance on the back of one.     I like them, but I like the Imperials a little bit more that year with the small rear window & the huge grille/nose on them.

[kab69440]

My apologies to Mustanghater. I did not mean to "jack"your thread.

[Dodge-Charger]

, I guess you can clone racecars so who knows. The terms aren't exactly well-defined.

I think that would be a Replica not a clone.  If you made a 74 Petty or a 74 Dale car it would be a replica not a clone for one reson, they are not production cars.

  Now if you took a 70 RoadRunner and made a SuperBird I think that goes under Clone. If you painted it petty blue with his number then it goes back to being a Replica. and as stated before 71 Sat into a 71 Roadrunner would be a clone.

As too Modified, If you take any year car say a 74 Charger and did any of the 1 following ( drop a 383 in, aftermarket rims being 15 or 18, painted it Lime light or added all the spoilers to it ) I think that is a Modified car being these were not options for that car.

  If you redo a car back to match it's fender tag and build sheet it would be a Restored car not a friggin survivor. ( sorry, saw one this week and it pissed me off ) guy had a 73 with fresh paint and new Int. stating it was a survivor. I wanted to choke him . Any way,,,,,,   Hope that helps some.

PS. this has been just my .02

[mustanghater]

its mainly the hemi that I'm talking about and I loged off right when I posted. but why does a hemi make the price of the vehical go up? I know it the ultimate engine put their seems to be a hemi in just about every cuda vert made. but if you live in a average joe family like me you think about why things are so expensive.

[Dodge-Charger]

some people have more money than brains, and others know how to get that money from them.
How many Factory Hemi Convert Cudas were made, X How many people are willing to pay for them clone or Orig. = what ever price someone wants for that car.

Look at gas prices, if all gas stations were say Exxon and they were the only Co. that sold gas how much do you think we would have to pay for a Gal. of gas? You get the Idea