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(1969 R/T) Forget delusional, what's this one really worth?

Started by XS29L9Bxxxxxx, March 14, 2017, 07:30:06 PM

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XS29L9Bxxxxxx

Forget about the delusional sellers, this guy might not be far off... What do you think?


https://vancouver.craigslist.ca/van/cto/6040188303.html

Looks like they are asking $65k, USD



XS29L9Bxxxxxx

FWIW, I would have washed it first, shined it up, and presented it better, without cut-off pics.  :Twocents:

Baldwinvette77

like you said, it needs more pictures and a wash, but its hard to say, its in a class of its own between 1 owner, a nice colour, documentation, unrestored and such. if someone did pay 65,000$ i wouldn't feel like they were ripped off, but it wouldn't be deal of the century either  :scratchchin:

oh, and if it's a windsor car i guess that makes it a little more rare too  :lol:

tan top

looks like a good project !  why don't these guys take good pictures  :shruggy:
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

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Interesting pictures & Stuff 
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Johnnymopar

This car is northeast of Vancouver about 4 hours.  Winter is in full effect there still, so the pics probably suck cause it's in a tight space and piles of snow outside. 

Some good points here, it appears overpriced at first but is it?  Original owner, unrestored, if it is indeed OG paint and mostly free of rot.... Who knows. 

I'm considering a 1970 Duster 340 original owner, unrestored, A/C, numbers matching, solid, but needing paint for US$10,000.  How many chances we get to buy these cars off the original owner... not many now.  Yeah it's a Duster but an OG owner Charger is out of my league. 

Mytur Binsdirti

Quote from: XS29L9Bxxxxxx on March 14, 2017, 07:30:06 PM


Looks like they are asking $65k, USD



"I will post more pictures of the Car after it is washed later this week if it is still available."


I'm sure it will be.

XS29L9Bxxxxxx

It'll be interesting to see how it cleans up.

I remember the brown Charger R/T from about 5 years ago which surfaced, it was a survivor car, and looked dirty as all. The seller did not clean it up for the pics, either.
Anyways, the car ended up at Carlisle, and really had a shine. Looked amazing in person. But that was 5 years ago, and the price was about 1/2 what this guy wants. $USD.  
:Twocents:

Has time improved values?  :scratchchin:

And as another pointed out, how many can buy an original car still? Fewer and fewer  :popcrn:

INTMD8

Looks very nice. Mentions original interior but I see no mention of original paint.  

-IF- it's original paint, as described and CAD I think it will bring asking price.  My first guess is that it's not on original paint however.

The dirty/dusty pics don't bother me. Just adds credibility to the story in my opinion.

Also, I wouldn't assume the ask is CAD.  Most Canadian cars I've seen advertised these days, the ask is USD.
69 Charger. 438ci Gen2 hemi. Flex fuel. Holley HP efi. 595rwhp 475rwtq

moparnation74

LOL....appears to be nice....minus the patina....but the price, wth?

My 69 charger RT is no different that that one, all paperwork, documented to original owner, matching numbers, and all original sheetmetal and restored...  If someone offered me 85 or even 65 I would say sold!......

70 sublime

I like these ads that say original owner

I doubt the guy listing it for sale is the same persons name on the ownership

You can say one registered owner maybe but there might be one or two guys that have had it since it left the original garage that it lived in  :brickwall:
next project 70 Charger FJ5 green

tan top

Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

Mytur Binsdirti

That R/T emblem drips like it has gonorrhea.

You can see some (surface?) rust underneath the taillights.

Challenger340

He is asking $87,500 Canadian, or about $65K U.S. Dollars.  

IMO, something smells very fishy to me ?
If everything he is saying is true about the Car's history ?   Why would someone do a "3 poor Pic" ad on a Canadian Craigslist, instead of pursuing a far wider U.S.A. exposure like Ebay ? etc ?
Remember here.... more people in California alone..... than in ALL of Canada ?

Just me...
But I also believe it's the same Car that was listed on the Las Vegas Craigslist for $50K about 6 months ago(all the way from Vernon B.C.), then strangely dis-appeared again.

And then again....
there are still many people HUNTING for this one...
http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1073194_help-find-this-stolen-1969-dodge-charger

And for those who are really good at spotting things on "V88" Charger R/T's ?
I would invite opinions on the spacing of the R/T Emblem to the rear corner moulding, above the marker light  ?

and a reference Pic



Only wimps wear Bowties !

INTMD8

69 Charger. 438ci Gen2 hemi. Flex fuel. Holley HP efi. 595rwhp 475rwtq

375instroke

Are the R/T emblems installed with the same precision as the stripes?

375instroke

How does purchasing from the original owner have an effect on the price?  Sure it's cool, but you won't be the original owner when you fork over the money, so what's the point?

XS29L9Bxxxxxx

Quote from: 375instroke on March 15, 2017, 01:47:51 PM
Are the R/T emblems installed with the same precision as the stripes?

Hard to say in those quality pics.  :Twocents:

XS29L9Bxxxxxx

Quote from: 375instroke on March 15, 2017, 01:49:08 PM
How does purchasing from the original owner have an effect on the price?  Sure it's cool, but you won't be the original owner when you fork over the money, so what's the point?


I think it implies you don't get a bunch of stories on the car. You can get it from the original owner, and lessens the chance of BS. But I'd be curious if it's really still owned by the original owner, or if a flipper got it...  :popcrn:

INTMD8

Quote from: 375instroke on March 15, 2017, 01:49:08 PM
How does purchasing from the original owner have an effect on the price?  Sure it's cool, but you won't be the original owner when you fork over the money, so what's the point?

I don't think it has a big effect on price, just gives a more clear picture of a cars history if it hasn't been diluted through 10 owners.

I bought a 59 Cadillac that was -basically- one owner a few years back. Title was in the original owners name and he had passed in 1978, car was in a garage behind the house and hadn't moved since.

Bought it from his son who remembered riding around on the front fold down armrest as a kid and explained the "L" on the key was for the name of his mother Loraine.

So, the car is the car but I find the history interesting as well.
69 Charger. 438ci Gen2 hemi. Flex fuel. Holley HP efi. 595rwhp 475rwtq

F8-4life

Car has no 4 speed, no track pack, no dana. No hemi, no sunroof. This car's only "extra" value over any other '69 RT is in the q5 paint, # match, the 1 owner aspect, meaning detailed & clear line of history, and the fact that it's never been disassembled, or tampered with. Other then that its nothing crazy special. I'd say it's worth 45k-50k depending on the buyer.

BDF

Quote from: Challenger340 on March 15, 2017, 11:43:26 AM
He is asking $87,500 Canadian, or about $65K U.S. Dollars.  

IMO, something smells very fishy to me ?
If everything he is saying is true about the Car's history ?   Why would someone do a "3 poor Pic" ad on a Canadian Craigslist, instead of pursuing a far wider U.S.A. exposure like Ebay ? etc ?
Remember here.... more people in California alone..... than in ALL of Canada ?

Just me...
But I also believe it's the same Car that was listed on the Las Vegas Craigslist for $50K about 6 months ago(all the way from Vernon B.C.), then strangely dis-appeared again.

And then again....
there are still many people HUNTING for this one...
http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1073194_help-find-this-stolen-1969-dodge-charger

And for those who are really good at spotting things on "V88" Charger R/T's ?
I would invite opinions on the spacing of the R/T Emblem to the rear corner moulding, above the marker light  ?

and a reference Pic




My V88 R/T badge is like the black (yours?) car's.
Front of badge is plumb with marker, not rear of marker like for sale car's is. :yesnod:

Mytur Binsdirti

Quote from: BDF on March 15, 2017, 08:55:42 PM

My V88 R/T badge is like the black (yours?) car's.
Front of badge is plumb with marker, not rear of marker like for sale car's is. :yesnod:




moparnation74

Quote from: Challenger340 on March 15, 2017, 11:43:26 AM
He is asking $87,500 Canadian, or about $65K U.S. Dollars.  

IMO, something smells very fishy to me ?
If everything he is saying is true about the Car's history ?   Why would someone do a "3 poor Pic" ad on a Canadian Craigslist, instead of pursuing a far wider U.S.A. exposure like Ebay ? etc ?
Remember here.... more people in California alone..... than in ALL of Canada ?

Just me...
But I also believe it's the same Car that was listed on the Las Vegas Craigslist for $50K about 6 months ago(all the way from Vernon B.C.), then strangely dis-appeared again.

And then again....
there are still many people HUNTING for this one...
http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1073194_help-find-this-stolen-1969-dodge-charger

And for those who are really good at spotting things on "V88" Charger R/T's ?
I would invite opinions on the spacing of the R/T Emblem to the rear corner moulding, above the marker light  ?

and a reference Pic




Mine has the V88 with the RT emblem is in the same placement as your beauty!  Mine is all original sheet metal as yours...

BDF


ht4spd307

Quote from: Challenger340 on March 15, 2017, 11:43:26 AM
He is asking $87,500 Canadian, or about $65K U.S. Dollars.  

IMO, something smells very fishy to me ?
If everything he is saying is true about the Car's history ?   Why would someone do a "3 poor Pic" ad on a Canadian Craigslist, instead of pursuing a far wider U.S.A. exposure like Ebay ? etc ?
Remember here.... more people in California alone..... than in ALL of Canada ?

Just me...
But I also believe it's the same Car that was listed on the Las Vegas Craigslist for $50K about 6 months ago(all the way from Vernon B.C.), then strangely dis-appeared again.
And then again....
there are still many people HUNTING for this one...
http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1073194_help-find-this-stolen-1969-dodge-charger

And for those who are really good at spotting things on "V88" Charger R/T's ?
I would invite opinions on the spacing of the R/T Emblem to the rear corner moulding, above the marker light  ?

and a reference Pic



JUST A BIT OFF THE TOPIC BUT DO THEY COME WITH THE SHORTER 2'' OR THE 2 1/4 "ROAD WHEEL CENTER CAPS AS THESE LOOK LIKE THE TALL ONES

XS29L9Bxxxxxx

Here's a couple of "Survivor" R/T 1/4 emblems for placement:





darbgnik

I would assume the R/T badges on the car in question are within the realm of the precision quality from back in the day.  :lol:
Brad

1970 Charger 500. Born a 318, AC, console auto, now 440/727
Build thread:  http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,127291.0.html

birdsandbees

Quote from: darbgnik on March 16, 2017, 04:26:08 PM
I would assume the R/T badges on the car in question are within the realm of the precision quality from back in the day.  :lol:

Yep and the angle of the picture..

If I wasn't 3500 miles east of the target I'd go check it out.
1970 'Bird RM23UOA170163
1969 'Bee WM21H9A230241
1969 Dart Swinger LM23P9B190885
1967 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S
1966 Plymouth Satellite HP2 - 9941 original miles
1964 Dodge 440 62422504487

Challenger340



JUST A BIT OFF THE TOPIC BUT DO THEY COME WITH THE SHORTER 2'' OR THE 2 1/4 "ROAD WHEEL CENTER CAPS AS THESE LOOK LIKE THE TALL ONE

I have NO Idea ?
I didn't even know they made different height center caps ?
All I do know......
is that the Wheels/Center Caps on the car are Original to the Car, but I would have to go measure the height to know what it is ?
Only wimps wear Bowties !

6bblgt

Quote from: Challenger340 on March 16, 2017, 08:31:14 PM


JUST A BIT OFF THE TOPIC BUT DO THEY COME WITH THE SHORTER 2'' OR THE 2 1/4 "ROAD WHEEL CENTER CAPS AS THESE LOOK LIKE THE TALL ONE

I have NO Idea ?
I didn't even know they made different height center caps ?
All I do know......
is that the Wheels/Center Caps on the car are Original to the Car, but I would have to go measure the height to know what it is ?

the short (2.00") "Road Wheel" center cap #2823 842 is listed in the Parts Catalog from 1967-1975
the tall (2.25") "Road Wheel" center cap #3580 466 is listed in the Parts Catalog from 1976-up

fc7_plumcrazy


375instroke


375instroke


darbgnik

Well, it looks as though, to someone, it was worth somewhere close to that amount.

It would be nice to see her in person, if she really were a survivor. BC cars are known to be solid, similar to California cars in the US, maybe even more so.
Brad

1970 Charger 500. Born a 318, AC, console auto, now 440/727
Build thread:  http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,127291.0.html

Challenger340

Quote from: darbgnik on March 29, 2017, 04:50:33 PM
Well, it looks as though, to someone, it was worth somewhere close to that amount.

It would be nice to see her in person, if she really were a survivor. BC cars are known to be solid, similar to California cars in the US, maybe even more so.

Some of the B.C. interior Cars are indeed very solid similar to California cars, and with the added bonus of not being as Sun baked/damaged.
Only wimps wear Bowties !