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Saved a 1970 Charger From The Crusher...

Started by CornDogsCharger, March 14, 2017, 07:13:53 PM

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Bob


sdweatherman

Kudos on getting that car out of there! Either it was abandoned on someones property and got evicted, or someone owned it and was told it was going to take more money than what it would be worth to restore it - so they came out ahead with $300 scrap.

Not a Charger - but I pulled this one out of a salvage yard north of town 4 years ago by telling the yard owner that I needed the dutchman, rear floor pan, and some other sheet metal. Convinced him that it would be easier to cut and pull those parts in my garage than starting a fire in his yard - and oh by the way - I need some of these suspension parts to throw under it so I can roll it off the trailer into my garage. If you look close - there is a hole in the roof. All the power sunroof parts were still on the car! After a little love and a donor car, its not looking half bad.

So getting them out of purgatory is not impossible if you can work the right angle and have a little luck on your side.

Scott.
1971 Plymouth Satellite Sebring Plus GY8/318/Auto
1971 Plymouth Satellite Sebring Plus GB7/318/Auto factory Sunroof
1972 Plymouth Satellite Sebring Plus EV2/400/Auto factory Sunroof

Baldwinvette77

another nice save!, what was red car next to it in the yard?

Lennard

Quote from: Baldwinvette77 on March 15, 2017, 12:07:43 PM
another nice save!, what was red car next to it in the yard?
You think he remembers that after 4 years?  :scratchchin:

sdweatherman

Quote from: Lennard on March 15, 2017, 12:10:18 PM
Quote from: Baldwinvette77 on March 15, 2017, 12:07:43 PM
another nice save!, what was red car next to it in the yard?
You think he remembers that after 4 years?  :scratchchin:
I do! Looked that one over close too. 1973 318 3spd Roadrunner. Sunroof too - but aftermarket. Pretty rough and rusty and missing lots of parts like my car. Biggest kicker was that it did not have its fender tag. Scott.
1971 Plymouth Satellite Sebring Plus GY8/318/Auto
1971 Plymouth Satellite Sebring Plus GB7/318/Auto factory Sunroof
1972 Plymouth Satellite Sebring Plus EV2/400/Auto factory Sunroof

Lennard

Wow, I don't even remember what I did last weekend.  :2thumbs:

Kern Dog


Lennard

Quote from: Kern Dog on March 15, 2017, 03:16:51 PM
Quote from: Lennard on March 15, 2017, 01:43:25 PM
Wow, I don't even remember what I did last weekend.  :2thumbs:

Drugs ?  :smilielol:
Never in my life have I tried drugs, consumed alcohol or smoked anything. I doubt you can say that.  ;)

alfaitalia

Quote from: Lennard on March 15, 2017, 03:40:01 PM
Quote from: Kern Dog on March 15, 2017, 03:16:51 PM
Quote from: Lennard on March 15, 2017, 01:43:25 PM
Wow, I don't even remember what I did last weekend.  :2thumbs:

Drugs ?  :smilielol:
Never in my life have I tried drugs, consumed alcohol or smoked anything. I doubt you can say that.  ;)


Well you might not live longer than the rest of us.......but it sure as hell is going to feel like it!! :smilielol:
If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you !!

Kern Dog

Quote from: Lennard on March 15, 2017, 03:40:01 PM
Quote from: Kern Dog on March 15, 2017, 03:16:51 PM
Quote from: Lennard on March 15, 2017, 01:43:25 PM
Wow, I don't even remember what I did last weekend.  :2thumbs:

Drugs ?  :smilielol:
Never in my life have I tried drugs, consumed alcohol or smoked anything. I doubt you can say that.  ;)

I am impressed. I was actually joking, trying to mend a fractured association with you. We have had tensions over silly things so I thought a silly ball buster comment might be in order.
I just like to make jokes.
What did you do this weekend .....besides drugs? See the joke? To  someone I'm on better terms with I would have said....What did you do last weekend.... besides little boys?
I'm not a drug user either. I tried smoking cigarettes but wasn't good at it. I rarely drink any booze.

Lennard

I got the joke. Back to the original topic... great that another charger has been saved!  :2thumbs:

dual fours

Glade you were at the right place at the right time and the scrapper gave you the time needed to acquirer it. Did you buy it as Salvage or does it have a clear title?
More pictures would be awesome, thank you.
1970 Dodge Charger SE, 383 Magnum, dual fours, Winter's shifter and racing transmission.

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darbgnik

I think more pictures are in order, now that you have it. We're all hanging in suspense here.  :popcrn:
Brad

1970 Charger 500. Born a 318, AC, console auto, now 440/727
Build thread:  http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,127291.0.html

paironines

Was there a title to the Charger? That would be too lucky.

ACUDANUT

Quote from: cbrestorations on March 14, 2017, 09:10:29 PM
if he wanted to say how much he paid for it he would have, some things are fine to keep private

It would help the rest of us trying to buy car from a junk yard. it's not asking for the winning lottery numbers for next week. what's the big deal ?

F8-4life

Well its under 500 bucks so really who cares? Its his business.

lukedukem

1969 Charger XP29F9B226768
1981 CJ7 I6 258ci
2016 F150, 5.0, FX4, CC

Kern Dog

Quote from: ACUDANUT on March 15, 2017, 06:38:54 PM
Quote from: cbrestorations on March 14, 2017, 09:10:29 PM
if he wanted to say how much he paid for it he would have, some things are fine to keep private

It would help the rest of us trying to buy car from a junk yard. it's not asking for the winning lottery numbers for next week. what's the big deal ?

This issue is one that I try to let go but it always annoys me. People are excited to go online to tell about some great deal that they got but clam up when people ask about the price.  What do you have to lose, people? Really? Do you think others will create voodoo dolls to torture you out of jealousy??
If you want to keep the purchase price a secret, keep the whole thing a secret. Showing your score to people is fine but it is rude and selfish to shut down when people ask for more info. These forums should be about helping others and sharing information.

Hey Joe, how did you do with your traffic ticket in court?  Oh, I won the case. How did you do that?  I'd rather not say.
Hey Joe, I heard that you asked out the Prom Queen. How'd that go? She said yes. Really? How did you ask her?  I'd rather not say.
Hey Joe, Your brother told me that you had Cancer. Sorry, man. Not anymore. The Dr cured me.That is GREAT! How did he do it? I'd rather not say.
Hey Joe, I read online that you bought a car from a Junkyard...a 70 Charger! I've wanted a 68-70 Charger for years. What did it cost? I'd rather not say.

CornDogsCharger

Sorry guys... didn't mean to leave everyone hanging, or seem like I was avoiding the subject... I've just been busy this week trying to get a car ready for a car show this weekend.  I also didn't realize that so many people would be adamant about knowing what I gave for it.  As some have mentioned already, and I'm sure many others agree, it's really my business what I have invested in it.  If I wanted to share an exact dollar amount, I would.  I don't walk up to the house of a total stranger, knock on the door and say "Hey, I really love your house... how much did you pay for it?".  Not that I'm trying to hide anything, I just don't feel that it is relevant.  I will say this... all of us can roughly figure out what the recycling place gave for the car.  So he wasn't going to let me have it for that amount... because there was profit to be made on his end, from a business standpoint.  I have enough invested in it that I feel like if I were to sell it, it would be worth my time and effort to get it out of there before it was turned into a piece of angle-iron.  

Here is how I found out about the car... and how I worked the deal... if you're just wondering so that maybe yo can do the same thing.  A friend of mine sends me a picture of some firefighters using the "jaws of life" on a car.  Close to where they were working, you can see the side of the Charger.  My friend (who is an A-body guy) said "Hey, looks like a B-body, thought you might enjoy it".  So I quickly call him and ask what he knew about the picture.  He tells me that his friend posted it on facebook.  His friend teaches at one of the local fire academies and apparently, they planned a training session at the recycling yard and asked if they would sit some cars to the side so they could come down there and use them for training.  Luckily, they Charger was not used.  So, as I mentioned in my original post, I tried once... this was on a Monday at closing time, and the manager was supposedly in a meeting at the time.  So, Tuesday morning I call the place and speak with the manager.  He tells me to come down one day and we could talk about the car.  My lunch break was coming up, so I ran down there during that time and he showed me the car.  From the very start... he told me that they do not sell to the public, and I knew he would just try let me get a few parts and be on my way.  I told him that I really needed the car for parts.  I could tell that he felt it would be a hassle to let the car go out... being that they've already inventoried the weight and then their numbers would be off.... but I just told him, if there was any way to get the car out of there, I could really use it.  He thought for a minute and then asked if I had another similar size/weight vehicle with the drivetrain... and if so, I could basically trade scrap for scrap.  I would weigh in when I got there, unload, load up the car, and weigh out... and whatever I brought in had to be the same weight or more and could not be less.  I told him that I did have a car.  He said that if we were going to do it, I needed to do it quick because they couldn't promise that something wouldn't happen to the car.  I told him that I worked M-F 7:30-5:30.  They close at 3:30 but are open on Saturdays til noon.  He asked if I could do it Sat.  I said that I could.  

So.... I had some junk bodies that I could scrap but I had a few things going against me.  The car needed to be pretty complete with drivetrain.  I didn't know what the Charger was going to weigh in at so I just figured 3800lbs.  I needed the vehicle to roll and make it easy to load by myself in the dark... and I needed to do all of this QUICK... and get it done after work in the few days that I had left.  My first thought was, I can just buy a ragged out Crown Vic (or something similar) with a blown up engine for a few hundred bucks.  I looked all over craigslist and couldn't find anything.  Time was ticking and it was coming down to the wire.  So on Thursday night, I drug up a 1965 Oldsmobile F-85 station wagon that I had as a future project.  It killed me to do it, but it was the only thing I had that I was willing to let go in trade for the Charger, and it met all of the requirements... it rolled, it was mostly complete, and I could make it weigh about the same.  The only thing it lacked was drivetrain.  I had a '79 318/904 that I bought for another project and ended up not using it.  It was said to be a running engine, but I never tried it.  I hated to let that go to the shredder too, but I felt it was for a worthy cause.  As it turned out, the station wagon was a lot rustier than I last remembered and it needed a lot of sheet metal... but I still hated to do it.  

So I dropped the engine/trans in the engine bay and filled the car with a bunch of extra scrap metal that I had, and loaded up the car on that Thursday night.  I called the boss and asked if it would be okay if I came in a little late on Friday morning.  He was up to speed on everything and he was okay with it.  So Friday morning came, I weighed in, unloaded the wagon, loaded up the Charger, went back across the scales, and not only was I leaving with the Charger, they paid me an extra $31.25 for the additional weight that I brought in.  haha

Details on the car.  YES, it is rough.  Both rear rails are GONE.  It will need quarters, floors, cowl panel, probably the fenders, etc.  But the car could be saved depending on how much you want to sink into it.  The big block is locked up... probably has been for years.  I haven't checked to see if it's numbers matching or not.  I will though.  At some point, someone  installed a have vinyl top.  I have not looked to see if the car originally had a vinyl top or not.  It is originally an N-code 383 B5 blue with blue interior car.  I did not get a title with the car because remember.... I ""bought it for parts"".  There is not a fender tag on the car either.  I have already been hit up more times than I can recall... locally and online... but yes, I do plan to sell the car.  No, I do not have a price in mind as of right now.  I want to clean it up more and give it a good evaluation so that I can give an honest description of the car's condition.  I have already cleaned it up some and put a set of rollers on it since the rallies that were on it would not hold air.  Here are a couple more pictures... I will post more but I'm having a hard time uploading photos to my photobucket account.

Justin
"CornDog"



1966 Dodge Charger
1969 Dodge Charger (DMCL Project)
1969 Dodge Charger (WB General Lee "GL#004")
1969 Dodge Super Bee

Kern Dog

Are you going to sell it to that guy in Ohio that makes General Lee  jump cars?
(Please say no.)
Thank you for the explanation. In this case I can clearly see how it is difficult to asses an actual cost to buy since it was a trade deal.
Regarding the comparison you made to asking a homeowner of the price they paid: If the Homeowner walked around the neighborhood talking about what a great deal that they made, it would surely make others curious enough to ask. Nobody here sought you out asking about the car. YOU posted about it. Thank you for doing so, this is a nice thing to hear of.
Thank you again for the long response and the pictures.  :2thumbs:

darbgnik

Keep us up to speed on how the actual condition turns out to be. I've seen a lot of Chargers on here that have been rescued from far worse condition than this one looks. And it's complete!

I would mention to any prospective buyers on here, interested in this car, that his time will be included in the sale price, including searching for title information, which would add value.


Oh ya, more pictures, there's never enough!
Brad

1970 Charger 500. Born a 318, AC, console auto, now 440/727
Build thread:  http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,127291.0.html

lukedukem

really good job saving this one. i would like to know the story on how this car came to be a the junk yard. do you know how long it was there.

I think sacrificing the olds to save this charger was a good move. maybe not if your an olds wagon guy, and i suspect there's some out there.
here's to the olds that saved the charger  :cheers:

RIP (this is not the actual car but one i found online, i'm not even sure its the right year, lol)
1969 Charger XP29F9B226768
1981 CJ7 I6 258ci
2016 F150, 5.0, FX4, CC

CornDogsCharger

Quote from: lukedukem on March 16, 2017, 10:10:37 AM
really good job saving this one. i would like to know the story on how this car came to be a the junk yard. do you know how long it was there.

I think sacrificing the olds to save this charger was a good move. maybe not if your an olds wagon guy, and i suspect there's some out there.
here's to the olds that saved the charger  :cheers:

RIP (this is not the actual car but one i found online, i'm not even sure its the right year, lol)

Wow!  That's actually pretty close to what it looked like... but nearly as good as the one in the picture. I will post more pictures.  Photobucket is giving me grief and is very slow all of a sudden. Anyone recommend another image host to post pictures? 

Justin
"CornDog"
1966 Dodge Charger
1969 Dodge Charger (DMCL Project)
1969 Dodge Charger (WB General Lee "GL#004")
1969 Dodge Super Bee

darbgnik

I've had pretty good success downsizing and uploading directly to this site.

As a hint, I find if I take a pic on my phone, text it to myself, then save that one, the texted pic is close to the 200k limit, but still full size. the text compression work well I find..... so if I have to reduce it's size slightly using windows paint, it doesn't turn tiny.
Brad

1970 Charger 500. Born a 318, AC, console auto, now 440/727
Build thread:  http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,127291.0.html

bigdsul

That car is in better condition than some of the piles of rust on eBay or Craigslist that have sold for a fair price. Sure there is a lot of bad but with a donor car this one could be saved and brought back. Hopefully this one can be saved and brought back to its former glory.